Journal #8360

Windows 8.1

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guide to revert back to 7 in the comments here

Instead of changing the properties of the window, change the defaults. The menu item for defaults is just above the properties item, at least in Win 7.

It does in Windows 8.1 too, and it's probably the problem. Right click -> Default -> Fonts. Also, Windows 8.1 is great.

I'm with Tetsu0, DiscoStu & Archie.

Why the flip would you go to Win 8? Or even win 8.1?

#win7rebel

Maybe you guys should actually be helpful instead of moaning about your OS preferences?

Thank you Penguinboy, that worked!

I use Windows 8.1 Pro because I got it free from the university. I use windows 7 on the desktop, but after the april update that should come after today from what I remember, I'm thinking of switching to windows 8 there too.
The new update brings back the old-style Start button.

Archie, shutting down windows 8 is a child's play. Right-click on the start button. It's... really that easy. Those who adapt, survive.

Why'd you bring that up? That was first impressions from hour 1 of using it, as stated. You should really just read Ant's post near the end, particularly in response to you saying 'those who adapt survive". It really hits the nail on the head.

"The history of the PC, particularly from Microsoft's point of view, was allowing people to use the machine the way they wanted to use it. Add all that tablet rubbish if you want, but why should you completely remove the way it used to work? Why isn't their an official option to revert to a more traditional Windows experience? Why should I have to pay to have a third-party company's software on my machine to replicate a workflow that is still far quicker than what it's been replaced with? I've never had to do that with OS X, even when Apple rewrote the entire thing after OS 9!

People tend to whinge that Apple shoehorn their customers into doing things their way or not at all. Shouldn't Microsoft also be held accountable for doing the exact same thing, particularly when they've traditionally offered their customers choice?"

It's less about what you prefer and more about how to help someone. Recommending reinstalling your full OS to solve a problem that has existed in pretty much every version of Windows since NT is NOT helpful at all.

Ever consider that people might not want to change their OS? Besides personal preference, certain features are simply not supported on Windows 7 - for example, proper support for high DPI displays and touch screens that more and more laptops are getting these days.

I personally do not like using Windows 8 in its current form, but I wouldn't evangelise Windows 7 like you are, nor would I recommend a full reinstall to solve a simple problem, especially since that problem also exists in 7.

Just being snarky, sorry dude!

It hurt me bad, so I get a certain level of satisfaction from talking it down as much as possible.

Well, apparently the new update that I got today did not bring back the old start button. It's perhaps meant for Windows 9.

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Some nice optimizations which I don't care about have been done though, like better integrating the metro apps with the desktop. The only problem - I never used any metro apps, aside from the weather one.

The news that Microsoft is properly returning the Start menu, and allowing metro apps to run under the normal Windows desktop environment is very, very good news. When it rolls around, that will definitely get me over the line to upgrading from Windows 7.

Well in any case, aside from trolling about operating systems; since XP, exiting command prompt will save any changes made to text size.
I know this from programming across 3 platforms in Command prompt (xp, vista, 7)

So unless you're exiting it improperly... No idea. Maybe there's a system option for default text size? But that might globally affect the system. Try sending the 'exit' command instead of closing it some other way.

Metro apps on normal desktop is really nice. Honestly, though, after using Metro start for a while I really don't miss the start menu. The new menu is just.. faster to use. A quick press of the window key brings me an icon for every app I want to find without me having to go trough menus. I can also throw a quick glance at my emails. I really don't understand the hate.

My two cents is that windows 8 / 8.1 so far has been much faster, much smoother and a generally more stable OS than previous windows versions. I can't remember the last time I used a single metro app but that hasn't changed my opinion of the OS at all.