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Thanks if i found a prefab that a guy used that prop and i got to work like in office.thanks alot

or any ideas on how to make an indoor building have realistic lighting.

thing is i suck with lights and dont know how to do them i try the tutorials and i fail miserably ..ive tried the prop static but like i said i couldnt figure out how to get the light to collaborate with it

I need a light prefab or something of a flourecent light like the ones that go into ceiling tiles not the ones with 2 bulbs. Anyone have one or can make one? i need it soon
Thanks in advance

k well sorry took so long for me to reply..have school. Anyways i made the texture 256X256...and the map compiles fine still but it closes CS and says file read error...idk im going to go through everything again b4 i might just give up

what do u mean invalid texture ..what do i have to look for to find this schmuck texture

first of all i have custome textures and the biggest is 208X256 and tehre are 2 like that but heres the compile log and when its starts running CS it crashes and says file read failure

** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strike"

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlcsg.exe
** Parameters: "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2"

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb 3 2004)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
--- BEGIN hlcsg ---
Command line: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlcsg.exe "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2"
Entering c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
--------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max lighting memory [ 6291456 ] [ 6291456 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
clip hull type [ legacy ] [ legacy ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
nullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

0 brushes (totalling 0 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (2.13 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (0.00 seconds)
CSGBrush:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (2.94 seconds)

Including Wadfile: program filesvalve hammer editortoolszhlt_1.7p13zhlt.wad

• Contains 1 used texture, 2.70 percent of map (4 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadscstrike.wad

• Contains 2 used textures, 5.41 percent of map (123 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadsde_vegas.wad

• Contains 2 used textures, 5.41 percent of map (101 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadshalflife.wad

• Contains 25 used textures, 67.57 percent of map (3116 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadsliquids.wad

• Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (32 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadssada.wad

• Contains 7 used textures, 18.92 percent of map (13 textures in wad)

Texture usage is at 0.51 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
5.94 seconds elapsed

--- END hlcsg ---

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlbsp.exe
** Parameters: "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2"

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb 3 2004)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
--- BEGIN hlbsp ---
Command line: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlbsp.exe "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2"

Current hlbsp Settings
Name | Setting | Default
------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
nofill [ off ] [ off ]
null tex. stripping [ on ] [ on ]
notjunc [ off ] [ off ]
subdivide size [ 240 ] [ 240 ] (Min 64) (Max 512)
max node size [ 1024 ] [ 1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)

BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2.prt'
5.33 seconds elapsed

--- END hlbsp ---

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlvis.exe
** Parameters: "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2"

hlvis v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb 3 2004)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
--- BEGIN hlvis ---
Command line: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlvis.exe "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2"
1434 portalleafs
3976 numportals

= Current hlvis Settings =
Name | Setting | Default
------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max vis distance [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

fast vis [ off ] [ off ]
full vis [ off ] [ off ]

BasePortalVis:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (3.39 seconds)
LeafThread:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (301.55 seconds)
average leafs visible: 177
g_visdatasize:88079 compressed from 258120
305.08 seconds elapsed [5m 5s]

--- END hlvis ---

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlrad.exe
** Parameters: "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2"

hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb 3 2004)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
--- BEGIN hlrad ---
Command line: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlrad.exe "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2"

= Current hlrad Settings =
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|---------------------|------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max lighting memory [ 6291456 ] [ 6291456 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

vismatrix algorithm [ Original ] [ Original ]
oversampling (-extra)[ off ] [ off ]
bounces [ 1 ] [ 1 ]
ambient light [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ] [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ]
maximum light [ 255.000 ] [ 256.000 ]
circus mode [ off ] [ off ]

smoothing threshold [ 50.000 ] [ 50.000 ]
direct threshold [ 25.000 ] [ 25.000 ]
direct light scale [ 2.000 ] [ 2.000 ]
coring threshold [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
patch interpolation [ on ] [ on ]

texscale [ on ] [ on ]
patch subdividing [ on ] [ on ]
chop value [ 64.000 ] [ 64.000 ]
texchop value [ 32.000 ] [ 32.000 ]

global fade [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global falloff [ 2 ] [ 2 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ] [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ]
global gamma [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ] [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global sky diffusion [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]

opaque entities [ on ] [ on ]
sky lighting fix [ on ] [ on ]
incremental [ off ] [ off ]
dump [ off ] [ off ]

colour jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
monochromatic jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
softlight hack [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
diffuse hack [ on ] [ on ]
spotlight points [ on ] [ on ]

custom shadows with bounce light

[               off ] [               off ]

rgb transfers [ off ] [ off ]

8328 faces
Create Patches : 48069 base patches
0 opaque faces
1006388 square feet [144919936.00 square inches]
14 direct lights

BuildFacelights:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (31.56 seconds)
visibility matrix : 137.7 megs
BuildVisLeafs:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (133.25 seconds)
MakeScales:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (188.17 seconds)
SwapTransfers:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (23.37 seconds)
Transfer Lists : 52513246 : 52.51M transfers

Indices :    25220456 :   24.05M bytes
   Data :   210052984 :  200.32M bytes

Bounce 1 GatherLight:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (7.81 seconds)
FinalLightFace:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (3.83 seconds)
389.41 seconds elapsed [6m 29s]

--- END hlrad ---

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2.bsp" "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal2.bsp"

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "c:documents and settingsryandesktopregalmymapsregal2.pts" "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal2.pts"

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1ValveSteamSTEAMA~1RVPPS2~1.COMCOUNTE~1hl.exe
** Parameters: +map "regal2" -game cstrike -dev -console +deathmatch 1

yea i fixed the problem..the map i think is neat its just that i have to find the right textures for it to look good which is going to be a PITA if anyone wants to help me find a shade of like dark purple for a wall and a lighter purple close to white but still noticeable purple for walls. The sky box had to be stretched out yea skybox..blah blah its just temporary

no i havent used the carving tool at all ive only used the clipping tool...but not to make funny shapes though

anyways from what i have read i need to stretch out textures and use the null texture to walls that arent going to ever be visible to the player...but i think im getter the exceeded max patches error becaues everything is basically one texture am i right?

** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strike

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:Documents and SettingsRyanDesktopregalmymapsregal.map" "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal.map"

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlcsg.exe
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal"

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb 3 2004)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
--- BEGIN hlcsg ---
Command line: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlcsg.exe "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal"
Entering C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
--------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max lighting memory [ 6291456 ] [ 6291456 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
clip hull type [ legacy ] [ legacy ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
nullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

76 brushes (totalling 520 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (5.89 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (0.00 seconds)
CSGBrush:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (5.77 seconds)

Including Wadfile: program filesvalve hammer editortoolszhlt_1.7p13zhlt.wad

• Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (4 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadscstrike.wad

• Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (123 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadsde_vegas.wad

• Contains 1 used texture, 3.70 percent of map (101 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadshalflife.wad

• Contains 25 used textures, 92.59 percent of map (3116 textures in wad)

Using Wadfile: wadsliquids.wad

• Contains 1 used texture, 3.70 percent of map (32 textures in wad)

Texture usage is at 0.26 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
12.64 seconds elapsed

--- END hlcsg ---

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlbsp.exe
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal"

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb 3 2004)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
--- BEGIN hlbsp ---
Command line: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlbsp.exe "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal"

Current hlbsp Settings
Name | Setting | Default
------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
nofill [ off ] [ off ]
null tex. stripping [ on ] [ on ]
notjunc [ off ] [ off ]
subdivide size [ 240 ] [ 240 ] (Min 64) (Max 512)
max node size [ 1024 ] [ 1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)

BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.prt'
12.22 seconds elapsed

--- END hlbsp ---

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlvis.exe
** Parameters: -fast "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal"

g_fastvis = true
hlvis v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb 3 2004)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
--- BEGIN hlvis ---
Command line: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlvis.exe -fast "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal"
4222 portalleafs
14250 numportals

= Current hlvis Settings =
Name | Setting | Default
------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max vis distance [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

fast vis [ on ] [ off ]
full vis [ off ] [ off ]

BasePortalVis:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%... (40.16 seconds)
Warning: Leaf portals saw into leaf

Problem at portal between leaves 369 and 370:
   (1722.500 3.500 -438.000)
(1720.000 5.000 -440.000)
(1720.000 5.000 -440.000)
(1724.000 5.000 -440.000)

Warning: Leaf portals saw into leaf

Problem at portal between leaves 911 and 908:
   (1446.500 2.500 -438.000)
(1444.000 4.000 -440.000)
(1444.000 4.000 -440.000)
(1448.000 4.000 -440.000)

Warning: Leaf portals saw into leaf

Problem at portal between leaves 2946 and 2945:
   (-1589.500 50.500 -439.000)
(-1592.000 52.000 -441.000)
(-1592.000 52.000 -441.000)
(-1588.000 52.000 -441.000)

Warning: Leaf portals saw into leaf

Problem at portal between leaves 3039 and 3042:
   (-1472.000 -26.000 -441.000)
(-1468.000 -26.000 -441.000)
(-1468.000 -26.000 -441.000)
(-1470.500 -24.500 -439.000)

Warning: Leaf portals saw into leaf

Problem at portal between leaves 4147 and 4148:
   (-1890.500 -26.500 -439.000)
(-1888.000 -28.000 -441.000)
(-1888.000 -28.000 -441.000)
(-1892.000 -28.000 -441.000)

average leafs visible: 993
g_visdatasize:758440 compressed from 2229216
40.75 seconds elapsed

--- END hlvis ---

** Executing...
** Command: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlrad.exe
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal"

hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p13 (Feb 3 2004)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
--- BEGIN hlrad ---
Command line: C:PROGRA~1VALVEH~1toolsZHLT_1~1.7P1hlrad.exe "C:Program FilesValveSteamSteamAppsrvpps2rocks@yahoo.comcounter-strikecstrikemapsregal"

= Current hlrad Settings =
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|---------------------|------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max lighting memory [ 6291456 ] [ 6291456 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

vismatrix algorithm [ Original ] [ Original ]
oversampling (-extra)[ off ] [ off ]
bounces [ 1 ] [ 1 ]
ambient light [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ] [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ]
maximum light [ 255.000 ] [ 256.000 ]
circus mode [ off ] [ off ]

smoothing threshold [ 50.000 ] [ 50.000 ]
direct threshold [ 25.000 ] [ 25.000 ]
direct light scale [ 2.000 ] [ 2.000 ]
coring threshold [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
patch interpolation [ on ] [ on ]

texscale [ on ] [ on ]
patch subdividing [ on ] [ on ]
chop value [ 64.000 ] [ 64.000 ]
texchop value [ 32.000 ] [ 32.000 ]

global fade [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global falloff [ 2 ] [ 2 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ] [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ]
global gamma [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ] [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global sky diffusion [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]

opaque entities [ on ] [ on ]
sky lighting fix [ on ] [ on ]
incremental [ off ] [ off ]
dump [ off ] [ off ]

colour jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
monochromatic jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
softlight hack [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
diffuse hack [ on ] [ on ]
spotlight points [ on ] [ on ]

custom shadows with bounce light

[               off ] [               off ]

rgb transfers [ off ] [ off ]

17190 faces
Create Patches : 70525 base patches
0 opaque faces
769546 square feet [110814632.00 square inches]
Error: Exceeded MAX_PATCHES
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check the file ZHLTProblems.html for a detailed explanation of this problem

this is the compile log when i tried it again any one know what this means..i will look into now but i want to hear what u guys have to say

yea title says it all...if you guys want me to post the map or send it to you i will be happy to...im making a movie theater..or my job cuz we decided it would be a fun map. But yea if u guys want me to post the map or send it to you. It has 3 "lights" but everything is one texture cuz i have to do custom textures if someone could help

well im in the process of compiling my map and its a farely large map...not like coble or anything and i says in the compile log "72 brushes (totalling 520 sides) discarded from clipping hulls. does anyone know what this means

Alirght im laughing at all you that formatted its just i think its funny ..idk i fixed it i uninstalled it and went into regedit and searched everything that said hammer ...and if it was related i deleted it and once i finished i reinstalled and it worked...but saco was somewhat right cuz i just shut the computer when i was too lazy to close the program cuz it took to long...so yea im back maping

back up my map...?

yea i tried 3.5 beta and that didnt work idk ill try to download 3.3 when i get home..and yes i need to format cuz my computers being a lil retarded i need to change the motherboard battery...but idk ill try 3.3 and i really dont want to format cuz its a pain in the ass ill try a complete uninstall down to the reg edits and see ifthat works...this is so gay i had a good map going too

k well i click on the exe to open it, then it gives me the loading dialog and then it give me the mouse busy cursor for a second after the loading dialog goes away and my computer just pretends nothing happened i have uninstalled and reinstalled several times and rebooted..im using hammer 3.4 any ideas what the heck is going on