life? Created 19 years ago2005-11-23 13:31:14 UTC by 38_98

Say, what do you believe in life (spirit stuff, souls, religious things or other theorys and such) or what kind of relic's do you have? (crstals, for example)

a) none
b) well, we have a little monk statue from an Egyptian tomb or something downstairs. Historical interest alone.

I don't believe in the white man (God) and although i've never seen a ghost I still believe in there being evil spirits that haunt you e.g. badluck...

I don't carry relics...
I have a few ornaments and staues as free gifts from India...

i believe in bad luck, but i don't believe in the superstisions (like 'Its bad luck to break a mirror') i just feel that every now and then is a 'bad luck day'

God is not real. 'God' or any other holy being was created by fools who are either too scared or too lazy to contemplate the truth.

Go, string theory!
http://www.superstringtheory.com/

string theory? Hmmm....

Say, what would be your views on other stuff like this?

I am not religious, but I am curiously afraid of the number 13. It's a superstitious thing.

If I see 13 download in a map, I'll download it again so the number doesn't stay at 13.

Not this again...

As most of you know, Im a highly religious person...

Oddly enough, Im a highly pesimistic son of a bitch...

Irony?

There are numerous religions in the world and it really does beg questions as to what are there 'true' origins - i really dont know what to beleive in this day and age. I am an atheist, but however if i was to 'adopt' a religion it would definately be Buddhism. WHY? because Buddhism does not tell you there is a god, it is based around the idea that YOU find inner harmony (becoming enlightened) it is the only religion that i consider rational. I really cant beleive there is an almighty god looking down on us frotm heaven. There it is - Strider's religious story. In stores next month

Yeah, Buddhism (sp.?) is the most sensible religion I've heard of. It appears to be one of the few that doesn't say "OMG WE R THE ONLY RIGHT ONES EVRY1 ELSE IS WRONG LOL".

wars stem from religion..and people hide behind religion (Catholic priests/pediophiles)...

my theory is if you have sound moral judgment and follow lifes rules...you know like be honest to yourself and kind to others...and show positive leadership for others to aspire to...then you wont need to go to church on sundays to look for answers, the sad fact is many people (christian people) go to church too often because they are running away from issues..it seems to be like a cult..

Oh and talking in tounges...what a crock of sh*t

Just an opinion.......

true Crystalman, anything is possible. One of the most misunderstood things in the universe is the blackhole - especially where one leads to, the problem is anything that gets close to one is stretched apart with unbeleivable force! But yeah anything is possible, and aliens (of a sort) do exist, forms of bacteria and life have been found on other planets so its entirely possible that another life form has evolved (like us).

Lefty are you saying christianity is a crock of shit or buddhism?

No Strider I am saying talking in tounges is a crock..went to a church one day with a friend, people started talking different languages (they call it talking in tounges)..crazy stuff!!

Oh and as for the relic 38_98.....I just look in the mirror Muhahaha (sorry)...no realy I have alot of stuff, I have been around the world 3 times with my parents, been to many places like Morocco/paris/England/Figi/Miami Florida/Capetown South Africa...so yeah I got some relic's

string theory? Hmmm....
Say, what would be your views on other stuff like this?

The string theory is like the theory of relativety, but, as we all know some parts of the theory of relativety didn't match the reality.
String theory is an other try, and they think it is a match!

I don't belive on god (only when I'm very lucky. )
Don't take offence anyone, but I think; God didn't create the human, the human created god

Still, god and heaven is still a god thing, to sing about, for example, it makes people happy

What I believe in? Urh... TV?

I have my trusty Mosque Alarm clock, purchased in Marocco, got it as gift.Also, Buddhism isn't really a religion in common sense... It's more like a way of life. Buddha was a person, not some semigod.
Furthermore, Madcows underlined quote's quite true (in my h opinion.)

Ofcourse, there's always, the flying spaghetti monster theory. Sounds reasonable.

Mmm... spaghetti monster,, gohohohohohohoh

God didn't create the human, the human created god

Heh, if there was a "good TWHL quotes" page, that would belong there.

Don't you dare make a thread for that.

I'm sorry but there are some things that make it impossible to not have some sort of higher being in the Universe.

I am strictly Protestant, I do not believe that good deeds get you to heaven(Islam, Roman Cathlolicism).

I also respect others right to believe what they want to believe, but that does not keep me from trying to presuade them.

This thread will be locked, I can fore see it.

This thread will be locked, I can fore see it.

Are you god?

Don't you dare make a thread for that.

You would like that wouldn't you.
Maby on m0p's birthday

(just kidding)

Religion is for pussies. Real men don't fear some crappy god, they do whatever the fuck they want.

No, its just that it is impossible to have any sort of political discussion civily.

No, i'm with m0p. You believe in God = You're a pussy
logical

Actually, I don't think I will lock this. We could do with something different for a change. Can't speak for Andy, Ant or Rabid, of course. Better than a "now typing" thread.

I am strictly Protestant, I do not believe that good deeds get you to heaven(Islam, Roman Cathlolicism).

So you're saying "everybody else is wrong on no grounds". Right.

Hmm... I glad that most of you when to get to the subject of religion go straight to degratory comments. If you have an opinon, will you at least try not to put other people down as well?

First of all, when you get to the subject of christianity, you must realize the many branches that christianity has, and that most of them have gone off of what the Bible acuatly says and have made their own relgion out of it. The Bible states three main points.

1. God exists, and loves you.
2. You have sinned, and there is no way for you to ever be forgiven by your own means.
3. Jesus died for one purpose, to make a way for you to be forgiven by God, and thus be accepted into heaven.

Thats it. That is the entire point of the Bible, the rest is there to prove to you the three main points above, and to guide real christians along in there lives.

Next time, remember to get your fact completely straight before you bash something.

It also says you can own slaves, lets follow that too.

and states that war is not a bad thing to do. Whilst not encouraged isn't viewed by the bible as 'evil'

2. You have sinned, and there is no way for you to ever be forgiven by your own means.
3. Jesus died for one purpose, to make a way for you to be forgiven by God, and thus be accepted into heaven.

Well I didn't wanna go anyway..

Tbh this god of yours really doesn't sound very loving and forgiving.

It also says you can own slaves, lets follow that too.

rofl wtf!!!!!!

References plz... And use full context seventh.

And war is often necessary get over it.

There are alot of bad things in the bible, but just because it dosen't condemn it dosen't mean it supports it... It is simply telling the story of what happened in one of humanity's darkest time periods.

Thankee Sir Riley...

I agree wholeheartedly.

the bible is rediculous, i beleive it even does at one page condemn homosexuality (not that i am or have anything against it) but that does not seem like a very religious, loving notion to me.

Whats wrong with condemning homosexuality?

I mean come on, look at how the different sex's bodys are formed, they were obviously not meant to have homo-relations.

in a day and age where we are taught to accept people for who they are, and considering my stance on religion its not a very religious idea is it, but i understand what your saying, we werent made for it - but meh we didnt build the twin towers to have them blown up by 'religious warriors' did we?

Thats entirely different...

Besides, what about AIDS? And we are also taught that there is ALOT of homosexuals living in the world, but there really aren't that many...

It condemns murder...

OMGG!! NOO!!!

How can the Bible do that??

Thats not Christian... to Condemn a Murderer... oh no....

Give me a break Strider... Don't make me go sarcastic on you again...

im simply trying to say that christianity and all other religions conflict for unnecessary reasons - that is why i am proudly atheist.

I think you just did go sarcastic on me again BL

seriously though...

The Bible is full of rules that only help Humankind. It serves as a code of Common sense.

"Its too bad that common sense isn't common."

• Voiltaire

Meat for example...

In Genesis, God said that we could eat any animal as long as its lifeblood was not still in it. Well... Raw meat caused many deaths and diseases back in the day... In order to get rid of the lifeblood, you had to cook the meat, purifying it.

whos to say we should abide by those RULES but - god? have you met him?, it all seems to me like a practical joke gone too far. I seriously cannot beleive that people support an entity like a god, what if the pope told us all to jump of a cliff to show our faith? I make my own fate and use my own values in life

Well, first of all, Im not Catholic, so if the pope told me to jump off a cliff, I'd probably push him.

I talk with God every day Strider, through prayer.

There are a few types of Athiests I have been observing...

one of them is a man of science. He believes only what he can observe with his senses, or what can be measured.
I took two objects and placed them in front of him. I asked him if he believed that there are some kind of force pulling the two objects together. He obvious said yes, as it is gravity. well, you cannot measure gravity, only predict it through inspecific tests. How then can you believe in one force rather than another, if you can see neither nor?

one of them is a man of Fear. Although it is right to fear God, he does not, since he doesn't believe in his existance. He doesn't for the mere fact that he doesn't want to believe that he is insignificant. Some people don't want to believe that they aren't worth shit, which is only an extended form of optimism, being the pursuit of ignorance.

Both these people have exactly opposite reasons.

One is Pesimistic, one is Optimistic..

Pesimism being the pursuit of Knowledge...

Optimism being the pursuit of Ignorance...

wow, make that up yourself?

Being able to see the forces is different to being able to see the forces in action. With science i can see the forces that gravity exert on objects, i can see the reaction forces exerted back - it all works together. With religion i see one force, a faceless character issuing orders to people who blindly follow. There is a type of aethist who beleives in science, who does not fear that which does not exists - instead he fears what it does to those who do beleive. I call this type of aethiest Strider.

i can also clearly see that this has turned into a war of words, not religions anymore

yes, I wrote that from scratch...

A faceless character?

There is a thing called Blind Faith, and I really don't think it applies. Once you accept God into your life, it changes you. You really have to experience it, its impossible to describe. Some people are born Christians... into Christain families... Well, yes, my Parents are Lutherans, but I grew up an Aethiest. I refused to believe in something that seemed so farfetched, only perpetuating my concrete arrogance... which yes, I do still possess today...

Well, I won't tell you about what changed me, as its personal, but I will say that when you accept God into your life, it changes you...
He knows you more than you know yourself, so getting to know him is getting to know more about yourself...

B.S. He knows you more than you know yourself, when you dont even know him? I Seriously cant beleive people get involved in this

one of them is a man of Fear

Isn't that the basis of all religion?

The Bible is full of rules that only help Humankind. It serves as a code of Common sense.

I'm with you to the rules part. It's a book of rules that tries to tell me what to do. Tell you what, I'll think for myself instead and use my own judgement and moral compass. That my friend, is common sense. And when you have it you don't need no "god".

Isn't that the basis of all religion?

I fear God...

And when you have it you don't need no "god".

wow... rebellious nature...

You guys have just said a bunch of things, and again, did not base them on anything.

First of all, not, the bible does not say you can own slaves. Find me a passage in the bible that does, and I will believe otherwise.

Second, to put it bluntly, yes, he is very forgiving considering our subborn nature. What if you had a dog that would disobey you at every moment? What if it bit you and tore you down? Would you keep it? I doubt you would for very long, but god has chosen to keep us for as long as we have existed. He has endured hundreds of years of hate and stupidity, and has never looked back and thought that our creation was a bad idea.

Thirdly, have you acuatly looked at people's moral compasses? Would you not agree with me that everyone makes dumb choices. Some of them are dreadfully short of common sence. What makes you so much better than everyone else, that you can trust your compass to noot screw up? Don't trust in yourself, trust in God. His stance has never changed, and the prove of that is in the Bible.

Fourth, I also fear God. Why, because he is so much more powerful than I. I do not fear that he will harm me, but I respect him greatly.

It can be said that religion is the sole cause of many of today's problems in the world. I wholeheartedly agree, and I'm a Catholic (not a particularly devout one at that. I believe in my own set of values and principles. Individuality is the best religion of them all).

You seem to forget that "religion" is more important than our world...

let me guess... You think that because there are holy wars going on in the Middle East and because a bunch of morons yeeeears ago went on crusades that religion is bad?

Think of everything that "religion" has done for the world...

Christians help people worldwide.

Do you know how many Christian organizations help out at no profit?
Probably too many to count...

For example... The Shriners... They build childrens hospitals at no cost, and provide medical treatment to poor children at no cost.

I know because My Grandfather was a Shriner...

Yes, a member of the Free Masons...

You seem to forget that "religion" is more important than our world...

Wrong. That's opinion.

Think of everything that "religion" has done for the world...

Religious organisations are not the sole contributor to the wellbeing of the world. The number of non-religious organisations far outnumber them.

You think that because there are holy wars going on in the Middle East and because a bunch of morons yeeeears ago went on crusades that religion is bad?

Pretty much, yeah. Trace everything back and you'll see that it stems from some form of religion.

I say, religion is just a theory, but when this theory was made, people didn't know a lot about science.
So, I think, this is just like the Illiad or anything like that.

And these days, I think religion is used more to blame stuff at.
For example, "Jehova's whittnesses" knocked on the door and said that god created the tsunami that deserted the coastes of thailand.
Oh, come on, seriously, why figgure out stuff like that when there is a logical scientific explenation.
Earth block moving -> Earthquake (under water) -> Creates big wave -> Mass distruction

Edit: Oh, and I totaly agree with Ant's last post.