Hammer running error Created 18 years ago2005-12-23 06:24:04 UTC by gordonfreeman gordonfreeman

Created 18 years ago2005-12-23 06:24:04 UTC by gordonfreeman gordonfreeman

Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 06:24:04 UTC Post #154070
Can anyone tell me why do I get this and how to fix it?
Right after I click OK Hammer closes.
Someone plz help thx
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Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 10:32:22 UTC Post #154091
I had that too. But it seems like nothing crashed or anything like that. My hammer stayed open.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 10:36:02 UTC Post #154092
My hammer crashes. I thought they had solved the error (which they had created)
The lesson: If something works, and a lot of people use it, dont touch it. Upgrades should be an option.
Someone at vALVE needs a beating.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 11:09:52 UTC Post #154100
But what should I do? refresh sdk contents etc or what? I have no idea
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 11:18:13 UTC Post #154106
I have the same problem. Dont work to Refresh or Reset SDK :tired:
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 11:24:07 UTC Post #154108
I am forced to use beta now because the old hammer just refuses to open...

The beta works fine for me so try that...
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 11:42:02 UTC Post #154113
But i Cant compile my maps in Beta. Its a new thread i made. But ppl dont answer. :cry:
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 11:58:16 UTC Post #154116
So there is no other way than this beta stuff? And even it may happen that I can't compile? Darn it I didn't buy hl2 to see Hammer crash :x
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 12:52:32 UTC Post #154123
Well everything works great for me fortunately ;)
I have not experienced any problems and tried to go back to normal hammer because I thought it didn't allow you to tell func_door which way to turn but it seems Valve changed it as a new function in properties at the bottom...
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 13:57:19 UTC Post #154153
Yes I have the "Fatal Error" as well. And my Hammer crashes also. Looks like Im going to have some trouble finishing up my level for the 28th. Ihope thye fix there fix soon. :tired:
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 21:04:54 UTC Post #154221
there is a temporary fix(way around it)
go to C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsusernamecounter-strike sourcecstrike and open the gameinfo.txt file (in notepad)
edit the line that says
ToolsAppId 211 // Tools will load this (ie: source SDK caches) to get things like materialsdebug, materialseditor, etc.
and remove the word tools from ToolsAppId

so it should read
AppId 211 // Tools will load this (ie: source SDK caches) to get things like materialsdebug, materialseditor, etc.

another error pops up about the .dll file but at least hammer opens :
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-23 21:46:00 UTC Post #154229
For the moment, I'm using the beta sdk. I can't open some older maps because of the corrupt models, but I can still work on another one I started yesterday.
Remember, just add " -beta sdk" in the Steam shortcut properties.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 00:00:44 UTC Post #154235
I'm getting this error too - and I'm so sorry to hear you've got it too, Ichthyosaur (what ever shall we do for the LAN party?). Apparently, Valve fixed this problem once, but somehow their latest update has caused it again. I'm going to try reinstalling the SDK entirely, and I'll let you guys know this.

...sometimes, I actually envy myself 2 months ago, when I was using dial-up and never went online with Steam...

[EDIT] On second thought, I don't want to have to re-extract all those Counter-Strike and custom textures. I'll wait for a patch. In the meantime, everyone should try the method Slackiller mentioned - but you have to do it for each game type (HL2, DM and CS, depending on which you map for). The only problem is that the 3D view is REALLY screwed up, so you won't be able to see textures or much of anything unless it's in wireframe mode.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 06:54:14 UTC Post #154270
Thanks everyone.
Kasperg: tried your suggestion now it seems Hammer's running again so many thanks. You know, after I tried around stuff that I will need in my DM maps, I've just planned my first map and was angry seeing that Hammer failed that time. Kasperg you had any problems with the beta yet that I should be aware of?
edit: now I have the first little problem: can't see the mouse in the x/y, x/z, y/z views and when I browse for models
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 11:01:45 UTC Post #154300
A fix is being made by the end of last week...Wtf still not fixed and it's saturday...
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 15:11:15 UTC Post #154330
Meh, i'm using the sdk beta now..
Sadly, it's fucking slooooooooow!

Freshed Curses at Valve
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 16:39:13 UTC Post #154342
Well to Valve's Credit, They are consistent. They know that if first you don?t succeed, make the same mistake over and over and over and over.....
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 16:55:56 UTC Post #154343
Bah they fixed most of the errors now but one problem for me...They created a new ERROR!

I can't use VTEX to make custom textures and whats worse is now it can't vtex at all...Curse you Valve!
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 16:57:05 UTC Post #154344
The error is fixed now habboi?

So I can use old hammer again?? :aghast:
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 17:04:05 UTC Post #154345
Not sure...It seems i'm not alone with this error:

http://www.chatbear.com/board.plm?a=viewthread&t=211,1135395466,20663&id=940917&b=4986&v=flatold

Curses valve!
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 17:05:54 UTC Post #154346
Don't tell me they fixed my error! Downloaded beta which is more buggy than the old Hammer was when worked :x
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 17:32:54 UTC Post #154349
Indeed, I hate that beta..

Valve really needs to fix this stupd 211 error..

Will take atleast 3 days since they also got holidays for christmas, just like everybody else ;)
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 17:36:44 UTC Post #154350
sigh They are lucky it's Christmas or i'd smash they are faces in... :x
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 17:37:47 UTC Post #154351
You would?

I wouldn't like getting my steam account banned you know :P

EDIT : Anyway, i'm setting up basics in the beta hammer for my hl2 sp project.

ARGH!! THEY FUCKED UP THE MODEL VIEWER!!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 18:51:17 UTC Post #154359
Yeah sucks dont it :
i'd smash they are faces in...
I did not write that! If some mod is editing my words then stop it seriously...
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-24 19:18:23 UTC Post #154363
Wtf, im getting it too!
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 10:02:24 UTC Post #154421
I did not write that! If some mod is editing my words then stop it seriously...
Yes you did :|.

they're faces = they are faces
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 13:02:34 UTC Post #154445
[quote]Not sure...It seems i'm not alone with this error:

http://www.chatbear.com/board.plm?a=view
thread&t=211,1135395466,20663&id=940917&b

4986&v=flatold

Curses valve![/quote]

No shit, that's about the same line im getting with my new map

Im getting the ID error thing too, i freaking bought this game.

Now all they do is shit people out with that box "Bla bla we had over 2.70 billion of hours for every single players" - Who the F cares? They count AAALOT Of bots anyway so they can TRY to get their stastics as good as ut2004 or BF2.
Or maybe they could get a patch out to fix that gay problem.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 19:52:30 UTC Post #154504
I am convinced that it's a Valve conspiracy to force mappers to beta-test their Hammer. Want it or not, we're being recruited as beta-testers for them.

It's pretty sneaky, huh?
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-25 20:34:53 UTC Post #154514
Here's one mapper they won't trick so easily into being an unwilling guinea pig - .dll errors be d**ned, I'm going to compile my map using the old Hammer even if the 3D view continues its polar-bear-in-a-snowstorm-at-night tirade. Let's hope Valve's Christmas gift to us all this year is a working SDK...they've got about 4:30 hours before it's too late where I live.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-27 06:54:15 UTC Post #154731
Does anyone know how many people work at vALVE?
If they had me in their team, there would probably be a monthly custom map release, "HL2:Aftermath" would be finished by now and "HL2:Lost Coast" would have been more than 15 minutes long.
My Hammer beta works exactly like it did the other time. Some random models are screwed up, and placing them in the map causes Hammer to crash. If I try to open a map that has one of those models, Hammer also crashes. Luckily, you can actually see which models are corrupted thanks to the new model browser (the only nice thing in the beta)
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-27 06:57:02 UTC Post #154732
Circa de cinquenta, I believe. Fifty, right?
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-27 07:02:27 UTC Post #154733
I'm fairly sure that the error has been noticed, and I'm about 100% sure it will be resolved soon. VALVe are not one to let critical errors go unchecked for ages. Stop bashing Steam and VALVe ffs.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-27 17:22:00 UTC Post #154880
Perhaps you are right and we should lay off, I think people just want to vent there anger at the fact that not only did valve send a fatal error along with the updates (which are mandatory), but it is an error they created AND fixed before.

However, thorough the use of the beta and the method that slackiller generously gave us, we can continue working on out levels and using hammer. It is of course an inconvenience but most of us can live with it.

I agree with you 100% that they will have it up and running shortly. All we have to do is wait...
:tired:
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-29 17:28:21 UTC Post #155209
It seems its fixed. I just started Hammer 4 and no longer received that 211 error. :)
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-29 21:47:20 UTC Post #155244
Anyone else experiencing problems with the 3D view? I'm only getting wireframe, and even that isn't working too well.

I've removed "-beta sdk" from the Steam shortcut and I've refreshed the SDK contents. I've also checked the gameinfo.txt files, and everything looks like it should.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-29 21:54:22 UTC Post #155247
Just read around a bit and found out that this is an unfixed problem. It doesn't happen to everyone, though. Well, I guess I'll just wait then.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-30 11:02:17 UTC Post #155285
Yeah my friend Win gets it, sounds unfair and my other friend Vivi has a weird problem, his view shows black...
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-30 11:11:39 UTC Post #155286
i got that same thing now! all the textures in 3D view are black, making it an obvious bitch to map!
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-30 21:33:56 UTC Post #155355
thepreacher, that's one of the many, general problems associated with that temporary fix - I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that "We've got it, all right!" : You're not alone, so don't feel bad!

Texturing is virtually impossible, isn't it? On that note, so is doing just about anything, including brushwork.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-31 20:08:25 UTC Post #155531
It's fixed now.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-31 20:36:03 UTC Post #155533
Damn it I have the beta now.
Is there a way to get back the old one?
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-31 21:06:27 UTC Post #155537
remove the parameter from the shortcut and restart steam
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-31 21:29:34 UTC Post #155539
I get this now
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Posted 18 years ago2005-12-31 21:39:16 UTC Post #155541
Uh, when?
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-31 21:41:23 UTC Post #155543
He got it 1 minute before posting :P
Nah I got that all the time so I used beta which works fine...
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-31 21:57:26 UTC Post #155546
Valve, you are forgiven. :glad:

I never really was angry at them, but the fact that the error came just as Ichthyosaur and I were getting our maps ready for our LAN party was very disappointing. At least they, unlike some software companies, actually respond quickly to such unfortunate problems.
Posted 18 years ago2005-12-31 22:10:01 UTC Post #155548
Well i'm just glad they made Source and Hammer and all the stuff that got me interested in level design...
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-01 02:29:07 UTC Post #155572
I agree. The simple fact that such an error became so distressing and critically important to we mappers speaks volumes about the influence, quality, depth, and appeal of Valve's products.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-01 03:45:41 UTC Post #155578
You can fix the file not found error by rextracting the files from the GCF.
RabidMonkey RabidMonkeymapmapmapfapmap
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