14 year old to be tried as terrorist Created 17 years ago2007-04-05 02:26:59 UTC by RabidMonkey

Go read this:

http://www.kpho.com/news/11509875/detail.html?rss=pho&psp=news

It's silly enough that he's being tried for 'terrorism' (what isn't terrorism in America in this day and age though) but they also want to try him as an adult. Generally I've only seen younger kids tried as adults once they've killed people (in the beltway sniper case for example if I recall) - next thing you know he'll be off to Guantanamo for being a TERRORIST and a FREEDOM HATER!!! This is absurd.

It's worse that about 68% of people who take their little survey think that he should be placed on trial as an adult and punished as one. Also, you only see stuff like this labelled as terrorism after 9/11. Remember Columbine? I don't remember anyone calling that a terrorist act and there were certainly a lot more dead and larger weapons involved.

He's being charged as an adult because he carried around some weapons (which is too bad, but it's not unheard of), and threatened someone with a knife (oh god, that's NEVER happened before)? It does seem like overkill, to me.

What I really want to know is, how did they get the information about him "plotting a Columbine-like scenario"? Did he actually confess this, or did some crackpot policeman deduce this the minute he laid eyes on the backpack's contents? I'm skeptical, to say the least.

Obviously that's why - but there have been plenty of other cases where minors are not tried as adults for carrying weapons or even assaulting other people (there was a case where two 10 year old boys in Florida threw some concrete blocks at a homeless guy the other day, injured him pretty bad, and they're probably going to get off with a minimum sentence.) I'm also curious as to how they've deduced his master plan of TERRORISM and are charging him as such - It says he told them that he planned to hold his class hostage, but that's all. There are kids who have brought guns to school and even shot other students (on accident or not) and they've got off with much less severe punishments.

Did no-one involved suspect the kid had been having a very hard time? That's he's probably been ridiculed relentlessly? There's always two sides to the story and the one closest to the truth is usually not the one the media and authorities tell.

I'm surprised no-one has shifted blame to the parents, if the kid was troubled then they should've picked up on it and got him some appropriate help. But, i could be wrong and the kid could just be a maniac.

Trying him as a terrorist is fucking ridiculous, i can think of plenty of similiar cases with completely different results. Shit changes so rapidly now that it's hard not to see this place as going as going to hell.

EDIT:

"Holly Hosac, another Mesa police spokeswoman, said the teen was a good student but apparently had trouble with another boy at school."

Sounds like they investigated that quite thoroughly.

Trying a 14-year as an adult old for terrorism? Oh lawd.

thats what you get from playing too much counter-strike.

"Zomg respawn???"

I can imagine the idiot police in black ski masks grappling the kid down on the pavement, tasering him and shouting...

And if you said, "Hey officers, leave the kid alone!" They'll shout;

"Hey, thangs have changed since 9/11 b'ooy! Whuts the matta? You aint with al Qaeda now are ya?"

This is the new Amerika. Land of the FEMA Camps, Home of the Slaves.

Hey Rabid, a little bird tells me you watched Terrorstorm, am I correct?

The kid is a psycho.

Tho trying him as a terrorist is a bit weird.
But I agree that he should be locked up, tho not in 20 years, maybe like 7 years.

YEAH THEN WHEN HE GETS OUT HE'LL BE A WELL-ADJUSTED HARD-WORKING MEMBER OF SOCIETY ^__^.

Prison sentences for mentally insane people hardly helps.

There was a kid (16-years-old, I think) who brought a revolver to my school. He isn't even in jail right now. He's at home, suspended for weeks, and being put up for expulsion.

That's it.

How is it that a 14-year-old is getting 20 years when a 16-year-old is getting kicked out of school?

Haha.

America.

How we envy your freedoms.

Every attack is being labelled a terrorist attack nowadays. What happened to the good old days of fucked up people and normal murderers? It's mostly media-whoring from governmental organisations to rally public support through the use of buzz words.

America, fuck yeah!

But in all seriousness: He reminds me of the main character in Bully : O

Only on America can paranoia reach this degree. Hurray America!

How we envy your freedoms.

PS: Most of the freedoms in our consitution can be easily revoked nowadays.

YEAH THEN WHEN HE GETS OUT HE'LL BE A WELL-ADJUSTED HARD-WORKING MEMBER OF SOCIETY ^__^.
Prison sentences for mentally insane people hardly helps.

So you want him to go free? ;S

The guy is a nut!
He could kill anyone!

It's a crappy risk to take.
Why not lock him up, make him learn from his misstakes.

Mental institutions, my man.

Jeez, madcow.
R?ttpsykriatisk v?rd.

Oh, right.
Forgot about that.

Put him through that shit and if it doesn't help lock him up <3

R?ttpsykriatisk v?rd.

I ain't stupid ZL.
At least not THAT stupid.

He chose this life and so he gets what he deserved. If you do something wrong then you know the consequences and you have to live with it.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4158/bullyxe1.jpg

Woah...

So you want him to go free? ;S

.. You're pretty stupid.

Hes in the 8th grade. Most 8th graders are fucking retards. though they know exactly what they're doing.

I don't like the adult trial idea, but he definitely should get psychiatric help, not prison time.

U win this time ZL, but I won at IRC.

And habboi is right.
Everything has consequenses, and if u do something, you thereby accept what's going to follow.

Perhaps he knew what was going to happen...Maybe he just gave up on life and wanted to see what being a terror would feel like.

He has got to die!

No I'm not being serious! Americans are dumb, so many accidents and murders happen because every imbacile can go to the store and order some guns, and not only a tiny pistol but also sinper rifles and mechine guns. For christ sake I even found a site while searching for images that sells mags and other kinds of heavy weapon, like rpgs and grenades. This is madness, who needs those stuff?

Once a kid plays with it and kills hid father or brother, once a woman shoots her husbands by mistake and sometimes some wacko goes into a rampage and start shooting people. Come one, I know it doesn't happen every day or every year, but still it happens more then in most westren countries. :

He chose this life and so he gets what he deserved. If you do something wrong then you know the consequences and you have to live with it.

Yes, because people always think about the consequences of their actions, especially if they're not right in the head.

And I agree that the resemblence between him and the kid in bully is uncanny.

USA, USA, USA!

Gotta love them crazy yanks

Hey Rabid, a little bird tells me you watched Terrorstorm, am I correct?

Yep, own it ;D

Every attack is being labelled a terrorist attack nowadays. What happened to the good old days of fucked up people and normal murderers? It's mostly media-whoring from governmental organisations to rally public support through the use of buzz words.

Of course, but the scarier thing is, that people actually believe this bullshit in my country and will do anything to help the government and STOP THE TERRORISTS even if it involves giving up precious personal liberties or things of the like. People are just so sheepish here that they need the media and news to give them their information because they can't formulate opinions and think for themselves - and our horrendous public "education" system isn't doing anything to help it either - if you think for yourself and are inquisitive you won't do well at all in school, but that's just the thing you need to succeed in the real-world if you don't want to be a dumbfuck.

Prison sentences for mentally insane people hardly helps.

Often they don't even help people who are sane of mind. Of course there's going to be a few people who it affects (who wants to be locked up for 40 years?) but there are always the people who do get out of long sentences and go right back to committing crimes as well. Restorative justice is much more effective - making people who tag walls and dumpsters clean it up, making people who steal or maim work with those they've hurt, etcetera. That's much more meaningful and touching to everyone then just locking people away for years.

I suppose this is the living thruth that the world, and in this case the scociety, has gone mad.

I wonder if the kid will be executed America is one of five countrys in the entire world that will kill teenagers even China wont execute teenagers and thats a bigger meat grinder than texas

What you mean is that China tells you that they don't execute teenagers. In China the government can kill anyone they want to, and there isn't anyone to report it. At least America is better than that.

Heh... texas meat grinder. That's where I live.

Trying this kid as an adult is utterly stupid and illogical, but since when did logic enter into the America justice system? Frankly I think that the main purpose of the prison system is as a deterrent for criminals and as a place to keep dangerous people untill they aren't dangerous anymore. But if you're crazy, then neither one of these things matters to you. The kid should probably recieve some sort of therapy and some time in juvie, not a 20 year prison term. That's just dumb.

For the love of god it is NOT fucking terrorism!

just trying to make it sound worse than it already is. Wiitards.

That kid needs psychologic help, not trials.

Pfft, typical. Just so very typical.

I live in Phoenix and its been all over the news here. Like WTF? How is he a terrorist? Maybe if he was gonna blow up the whole school...but this more like a kidnapping/abduction sort of thing. Still a serious crime but not terrorism. He needs to go to the mental insitute not prison.

lmao...oh man...just think if hed been arabic or something...

How nice of them to blurt it out. Even if he isn't a terrorist, he's pretty much screwed now

but this more like a kidnapping/abduction sort of thing.

Isn't that terrorisim too. Sometime terrorists kidnap people, not only blow up things, or shoot people. Besides I think he got that ambition from a little bit too much counter strike...

Terrorism is threatening populations with fake al-CIA-duh videos saying we are all about to be attacked unless we do as the government tells us.

Terrorism is blowing up civilians in Middle Eastern countries with cluster bombs, depleted uranium, and biological warfare and so on - on the guise of "fighting extremism".

Terrorism is arms dealing to rising dictatorships and then using it as an excuse for military intervention, just like the invasion of Iraq - the so-called "Operation Iraqi Freedom".

Kidnappin' can be terrorism too, the only thing important is who does it.
An american/europian(except east europe) who kidnapps is a criminal. If he smuggles weapons he is a gun runner. If he shoots people in the street he is a maniac, if he blows up buildnings he is a maniac too.

If you are muslim then every crime is automaticly a terrorism act.

ter?ror?ism - noun - the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

ter?ror - noun - a state of intense fear

I guess the means defines the act. That said, "National Threat Advisory" = LOL TERROR.