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Created 15 years ago2008-12-16 20:03:06 UTC by Soup Miner Soup Miner

Posted 15 years ago2008-12-25 21:53:33 UTC Post #260597
Also, gun ownership is a guaranteed right no less protected than freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and the right to vote. Also, we are granted the right to overthrow our government should it violate those rights, and replace it with a new one that will protect them. Without the right to bear arms, we are at the mercy of our government when it should be the other way around.
Blitz, come on, be realistic here. There's pretty much no way the citizens of the United States could ever hope to overthrow our government if the need arose. And it certainly wouldn't be with GUNS of all things, it would have to be with politics. The idea that you could somehow defend your rights with a gun in this day and age is absurdity. A situation in which this would occur is even more unlikely, since any political change in the direction of this country is so long and drawn out these days it's nearly undetectable. You can't change it with a weapon. There's no evil enemy to overthrow anymore.

America already is at the mercy of its government. Get used to it.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-25 23:16:03 UTC Post #260598
America already is at the mercy of its government. Get used to it.
Complacency is what a corrupt government thrives off of.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-25 23:26:09 UTC Post #260599
"Get used to it" might have been the wrong thing to say. All I meant was, guns or no guns, we're already being controlled by our government, but you'd have to be stupid to charge into the White House guns blazing or some shit. You just can't solve problems that way anymore, which kind of defeats the purpose of the second amendment in the first place.

Not that I'm against gun ownership, I've already said I think certain people can deal with them just fine. I just think defending gun ownership by suggesting that we can protect our constitution with them is a ridiculously outdated idea.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-25 23:36:18 UTC Post #260600
I just think defending gun ownership by suggesting that we can protect our constitution with them is a ridiculously outdated idea.
Guns may not protect our constitution right now, but our constitution protects guns. My point was that it's impossible to change the fact that we are, and always will be, allowed to own firearms. The firearms debate is pointless. Get used to it yourself.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-25 23:38:02 UTC Post #260601
That's not really a fact, considering that laws have a tendency to change.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-25 23:38:22 UTC Post #260602
Dude, it's amendment number 2. It's the bill of rights. It cannot change. THAT'S THE WHOLE DAMN POINT OF IT.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-25 23:38:56 UTC Post #260603
Oh yeah, you just wait.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-25 23:40:44 UTC Post #260604
What a great point of view to have.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-26 01:17:36 UTC Post #260605
It cannot change.
Technically with enough persuasion, anything can change. It is us that decides which rules to follow afterall.

I'm not disagreeing with you though by any means though.. there's a 0.0000000000000000001*10^-fucktonne percent chance in which that would happen.
TheGrimReafer TheGrimReaferADMININATOR
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-26 02:15:11 UTC Post #260607
The day anything in the Bill of Rights gets taken away will be dark day indeed.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-26 02:15:17 UTC Post #260608
Tru dat homes.
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-26 06:58:39 UTC Post #260609
But you are able to change the constitution, so why are you saying guns will always be allowed?
Oskar Potatis Oskar Potatis🦔
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-26 07:08:52 UTC Post #260611
back then the American people had to right to arm themselfs against native indians ... over 100 years ago.

and still belive they should HAVE THE DAMN RIGHT TO ARM THEM SELFS AGAINST NATIVE AMERICANS DAMNIT!

Pretty silly if you ask me
Posted 15 years ago2008-12-26 07:47:35 UTC Post #260612
srry makes a good point. There's no way in which you could defend yourself against corrupt politics with a handgun. The argument is ridiculous.
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