Hi
I have problem with func_tracktrain
im setting up in editor pitch yaw and roll "0"
func_tracktrain and patch_track
but in game my car is rotated :/
i tried rotate in editor too but its always broken.
heres how it works:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/d938xh
BSP file
[ct have car on respawn]
anyone know how to fix it ?
func_tracktrain problem
Created 14 years ago2010-06-30 15:49:54 UTC by
Un_Nem
Created 14 years ago2010-06-30 15:49:54 UTC by
Un_Nem
Posted 14 years ago2010-06-30 15:49:54 UTC
Post #282524
Posted 14 years ago2010-06-30 16:21:29 UTC
Post #282526
Source or GoldSource?
Ill move this thread to the correct forum once you say which engine this is for.
Ill move this thread to the correct forum once you say which engine this is for.
Posted 14 years ago2010-06-30 17:16:45 UTC
Post #282528
HL1 map making for CS 1.6
Posted 14 years ago2010-06-30 17:49:06 UTC
Post #282529
Moved.
Make sure your train has an ORIGIN brush attached and that its facing right in Hammer, seen from the top view. The train will automaticall face the first path_track.
Make sure your train has an ORIGIN brush attached and that its facing right in Hammer, seen from the top view. The train will automaticall face the first path_track.
Posted 14 years ago2010-06-30 18:19:00 UTC
Post #282531
i have
i tried make it small and big [just dot and long like tracktrain]
now i tried just dot again and moved little away from 1st patch_track
if i turn it on its driving backward
but.. why ?
in editor p/y/r is "0" and its moved right [on X/Y window] so its default position.
i tried rotate it 180* but its rotated in game again...
any ideas?
i tried make it small and big [just dot and long like tracktrain]
now i tried just dot again and moved little away from 1st patch_track
but.. why ?
in editor p/y/r is "0" and its moved right [on X/Y window] so its default position.
i tried rotate it 180* but its rotated in game again...
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-01 23:21:32 UTC
Post #282564
what's the rotation of the path track?
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 06:23:01 UTC
Post #282572
everything is default
0
0
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 06:49:28 UTC
Post #282573
put the origin brush in the middle of the truck not randomly somewhere at the face of it. That's your problem. I can see it easily from the screenshots. Remember; where origin is placed matters.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 09:00:37 UTC
Post #282576
i put on mid. and its rotated again (driving backward)
i have no idea whats wrong c_c
please download prefab and check it :/
http://www.sendspace.com/file/znoa87
just truck + 2 first patch_tracks rmf file.
i have no idea whats wrong c_c
please download prefab and check it :/
http://www.sendspace.com/file/znoa87
just truck + 2 first patch_tracks rmf file.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 09:15:36 UTC
Post #282577
well if it rotates, why don't you just fiddle with the pitch until the car is facing the direction you want it to?
Also here's a taught; The first path_corner or path_track, make sure it's facing the right way, that could be the problem.
Also here's a taught; The first path_corner or path_track, make sure it's facing the right way, that could be the problem.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 11:29:07 UTC
Post #282588
its all good...
origin and patchs
i tried rotate more my car but its always driving wrong direction.
i also tried make first patch as corner and rest tracks..
car is rotated good but not moving.
origin and patchs
i tried rotate more my car but its always driving wrong direction.
i also tried make first patch as corner and rest tracks..
car is rotated good but not moving.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 11:40:36 UTC
Post #282589
Uh yeah, So for path_track you need it to face pitch in the direction you want it to face and don't give it path corners just do path_tracks. Make sure your cars pitch is also facing in the direction you want it to.
If it's not moving then you have an error in your entity setup.
If it's not moving then you have an error in your entity setup.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 12:11:13 UTC
Post #282590
Skals
please download that and take a look
http://www.sendspace.com/file/znoa87
its all turned to Right --> [X/Y 2d window]
but its still weird rotated in game and driging backward
please download that and take a look
http://www.sendspace.com/file/znoa87
its all turned to Right --> [X/Y 2d window]
but its still weird rotated in game and driging backward
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 13:03:32 UTC
Post #282591
dont have program to open .rar files sry 
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 13:12:21 UTC
Post #282592
Get 7-Zip.
All the functionality of winrar, but without a nagging trial sign. <3
All the functionality of winrar, but without a nagging trial sign. <3
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 13:35:10 UTC
Post #282593
Oo normal windows have some crap thingy that opens that
well if u rly dont have that...
heres *.map:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2knb7j
well if u rly dont have that...
heres *.map:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2knb7j
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 13:52:36 UTC
Post #282594
You said it wont move, You've enabled the "no user control" flag. That might be your problem.
I also found your rotated car problem.
Here is why it wont rotate properly: You have to change the pitch of the path_tracks. The pitch has to face towards the way you want the front of the car to face, if the next path_track is upwards on the grid, point the pitch upwards etc, make it point towards the next one, it turns appropriately to the pitch. Also change the first path_corner into path_track, corners are for func_trains not track trains.
Edit: Here, that should work for you. experiment with the pitches. I took the liberty of moving the van since it was in a tricky angle.
your map:
http://www.filefront.com/16940399/as_csos.map
I also found your rotated car problem.
Here is why it wont rotate properly: You have to change the pitch of the path_tracks. The pitch has to face towards the way you want the front of the car to face, if the next path_track is upwards on the grid, point the pitch upwards etc, make it point towards the next one, it turns appropriately to the pitch. Also change the first path_corner into path_track, corners are for func_trains not track trains.
Edit: Here, that should work for you. experiment with the pitches. I took the liberty of moving the van since it was in a tricky angle.
your map:
http://www.filefront.com/16940399/as_csos.map
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 14:11:24 UTC
Post #282596
i know about patch_corner.. i was just desperated and wanted to try everything
and thats how looks your setting:
and thats how looks your setting:
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 14:14:52 UTC
Post #282597
See if it works. I left the no user control flag on tho. If you want to be able to drive it, disable that flag.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 14:19:25 UTC
Post #282598
its driving left side
as it stands... that way it moving lol
as it stands... that way it moving lol
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 14:32:53 UTC
Post #282599
Vehicles and trains must always face west in the editor.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 14:58:39 UTC
Post #282602
dont have program to open .rar files srywtf?
Vehicles and trains must always face west in the editor.wtf?
Just move the compass of your vehicle in the direction of the path_tracks.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 15:16:42 UTC
Post #282604
i tried that already... isnt woroking
do any1 owns original HL1 map with train ? [first map]
do any1 owns original HL1 map with train ? [first map]
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 16:12:01 UTC
Post #282606
Try the same entity set-up with func_train and patch_corners instead. wont be controllable and wont be able to move backwards, will require a trigger, but wont need someone to hold down the drive key and will have the same basic functions. Can't help you much otherwise any more, don't have the time and I've tried everything possible.
Search up a tracktrain tutorial on this site, or snarkpit, or fpsbanana.
Search up a tracktrain tutorial on this site, or snarkpit, or fpsbanana.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 16:38:06 UTC
Post #282609
Ok, i was wrong in my previous post, like potatis_invalid already mentioned, you need to make the front end of your truck face west, as seen from the top view in this screenshot:
Ingame the truck will face the first path_track.
Also, its best that you put the origin and the first path_track in the exact center of the truck. To get the exact center, make a temporary brush and cover the entire truck with it. Then select it and hit CTRL+E, this will make the grid viewports center on the brush. Now look for the X that marks the center of the brush, since the brush is the same size as the truck, this X marks the location where you should put the ORIGIN brush and first path_track.
Don't forget to raise the other path_tracks to the same height as the first one, otherwise your truck will partially dissapear in the ground.
Also, its best that you put the origin and the first path_track in the exact center of the truck. To get the exact center, make a temporary brush and cover the entire truck with it. Then select it and hit CTRL+E, this will make the grid viewports center on the brush. Now look for the X that marks the center of the brush, since the brush is the same size as the truck, this X marks the location where you should put the ORIGIN brush and first path_track.
Don't forget to raise the other path_tracks to the same height as the first one, otherwise your truck will partially dissapear in the ground.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 17:58:47 UTC
Post #282610
hm i set truck like u did on screen
but in game its rotated like that:
its driving forward so its half good...
in properties patch_crack have 180' just like truck.
(west on black wheel)
The Mighty Atom
did u tried to compile ur mini map ?
but in game its rotated like that:
in properties patch_crack have 180' just like truck.
(west on black wheel)
The Mighty Atom
did u tried to compile ur mini map ?
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 17:59:15 UTC
Post #282611
He can't get his to work
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 18:01:44 UTC
Post #282612
patch_crackI lol'd.
Anyway, don't set the angles of the truck, leave it at 0.
As for the tracks, you want to have the angle pointing at the next path_track and that one should point at the next.
Yes, i tried it ingame and it works.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-02 19:16:42 UTC
Post #282613
patch_track
I lol'd too.patch_crackI lol'd.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 04:34:45 UTC
Post #282622
I lol'd as well!
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 11:14:43 UTC
Post #282628
i wanted lol too...
but that VHE is killing me
i changed truck rotations to 0
in game still was rotated.
i added next patch_track like that:
[left]
how patch_tracks r connected
[right]
how truck is rotated in game.
...more ideas? :/
but that VHE is killing me
i changed truck rotations to 0
in game still was rotated.
i added next patch_track like that:
how patch_tracks r connected
[right]
how truck is rotated in game.
...more ideas? :/
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 11:45:15 UTC
Post #282629
IT'S PATH_TRACK, MAN!
NOT PATCH_CRACK OR PATCH_TRACK!!!!!!!!
NOT PATCH_CRACK OR PATCH_TRACK!!!!!!!!
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 11:57:13 UTC
Post #282631
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Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 11:58:59 UTC
Post #282632
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 12:18:11 UTC
Post #282634
Oh i see, where did muzz get patch_crack from?
failure of epic proportions.
failure of epic proportions.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 12:38:36 UTC
Post #282637
Wow, This Um_Nem guy is either mentally retarded or is fooling around. the truck is rotated exactly how its supposed to be.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 13:13:40 UTC
Post #282639
now i lol'd
so... no more ideas?
so... no more ideas?
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 14:59:50 UTC
Post #282643
If you don't want your truck to rotate at all, even when it would rotate in the real world, don't use func_tracktrain, use func_train.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 15:47:02 UTC
Post #282645
i just want it to start in normal position ;p
turned to WEST or w/e
ill put in editor and it have to stay in same position in game.
when i turn it on it have to rotate ;p
turned to WEST or w/e
ill put in editor and it have to stay in same position in game.
when i turn it on it have to rotate ;p
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 15:48:05 UTC
Post #282646
I doubt that he needs a func_train, as the path_tracks make a turn into the tunnel, he obviously wants the truck to stick to that, you know, make the turn as well.
I don't know what the heck you're doing, but i tested this myself ingame, and truck moves forward, facing the second path_track.
I did not change the truck angles, they are at 0 0 0 so don't change them yourself.
I don't know what the heck you're doing, but i tested this myself ingame, and truck moves forward, facing the second path_track.
I did not change the truck angles, they are at 0 0 0 so don't change them yourself.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 16:48:01 UTC
Post #282647
Yeah well, This guy is hopeless. We gave him tons of advice on trains and helped him out loads, he's still asking for more and doesn't know how it works. If he cba to search up a tutorial on how to make trains work properly then I cba to provide more help.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 19:54:54 UTC
Post #282648
Hey I think I know what he means now! Before the truck has been activated, he wants it to face west. Then, when it starts moving, he wants it to rotate just like a real truck would do (facing the next path_track).
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 20:24:15 UTC
Post #282650
I know what he needs - a translator to/from his native language. Maybe that'll help. The email address in his profile hints towards Polish but unless it's just a decoy I'll pass. I don't know shizzle of Polish and I'll let someone else make the communication attempt
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 22:12:39 UTC
Post #282652
Just make it face west in top view. Don't mess with anything else for direction, the path tracks determine that.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-03 23:50:03 UTC
Post #282655
I always thought it had to face east. But I never needed a func_train so I never really tried either.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-04 04:09:50 UTC
Post #282657
The default of pitch for all entities is west, west is 0, east is 180... etc etc. Some entities don't use pitch hence they will give you error if you put it anything other than west aka 0. That's pretty simple knowledge.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-04 04:18:19 UTC
Post #282660
And all this time I was thinking it was like this:
..N..
W...E
..S..
Perhaps I should look in Hammer whether 0 points to the left or right then, maybe I just remember it pointing the other way. Maybe after homework.
..N..
W...E
..S..
Perhaps I should look in Hammer whether 0 points to the left or right then, maybe I just remember it pointing the other way. Maybe after homework.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-04 04:45:09 UTC
Post #282661
fail. it's
..N..
E...W
..S..
0 = west. 0 = right.
..N..
E...W
..S..
0 = west. 0 = right.
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-04 05:49:15 UTC
Post #282662
Wut? Last time I looked on a map, west was left..N.. E...W ..S..
Posted 14 years ago2010-07-04 06:23:51 UTC
Post #282665
omg c_c
could u stop flaming me and focus on error ?
my english isnt perfect but its enough to understand.
who can't hes fail.
my truck is facing first path_track
second path_track is like 50 units for left from first one.
so truck should rotate to <--- [i dont know anymore if its west or east]
but it doesnt.
its facing 3rd path_track like i show at screen b4 [ where joebama started flaming me with CAPS about patch and cracks ]
could u stop flaming me and focus on error ?
my english isnt perfect but its enough to understand.
who can't hes fail.
my truck is facing first path_track
second path_track is like 50 units for left from first one.
so truck should rotate to <--- [i dont know anymore if its west or east]
but it doesnt.
its facing 3rd path_track like i show at screen b4 [ where joebama started flaming me with CAPS about patch and cracks
]
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