yay! so i made my first Propper model:Left is world model and right is prop physics model exported by Propper.

I intentionally tried to make something that would show errors as a world model in the game, but they look almost identical to me besides the lighting (which is a bit of a dissapointment). Maybe i'll to build something more complex and see if it looks substantially better as a model..

If someone has some crazy brush geometry they'd like to volunteer (especially if it shows visible errors in-game), i'd love to try exporting it using propper to see how it will show up in-game as a model instead. PM me or link to file in here if you're interested! =)

If this were goldsource, i would understand the advantages of this by the reduction in wpoly, and a few other small things, but what advantages will this give me for source? Maybe if the lighting was lower you'd see smoothing errors in the world-brushed one and not in the model?

In the editor! proof it worked:Very easy to set up and use. (i mean, if i could do it..) Very useful for a modeling-illiterate like myself..

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Grats! now go do something that matters. Jk <3

that's kinda why i made this thread, to pose the question: what can i do with these type of models that i can't do with world geometry?

You can rotate a model any way you want without it mattering that the vertices are off grid.

There needs to be one for GoldSrc.

But eh....you...I mean....buh....I used blender to make props :(.

Captain - The advantage is that it helps the overall performance of your map. A good example of this would be an office building with 50 of the same desk. You could use propper or any modeling program and make that desk a prop_static. The 50 brush desks are going to take up alot of faces, lighting, and other things. The 50 prop_static's are going to do just fine and really help your overall performance when rendering the map. These models are unlit so bigger object could look a little strange with no lighting. I am sure there are plenty of ways around this.

I just found this program myself and actually installed it last night so I really haven't made my first model yet. Could have used this little program a long time ago. And no, I don't have reams of time to learn the modeling program for anyone who would make a comment.

And no, I didn't die or drop off the planet. I got into a bad car accident a month or so ago and had to recover a little. This is why I haven't been on really. Like anyone cares....

I care!

Thanks kdunivan! that is what i wanted to know! = )
Sorry to hear about your accident and i'm glad you're ok(yes we definitely do care =)). If you need any tips setting up propper feel free to send a pm or post in here!

I followed the instructions from the VDC and it worked fine. here is my .vmf if you want to check out the propper_options entiy values i used.

Welcome back! =)

It's a cool little app, but it definitely shouldn't be used as a replacement for a modelling package. I think it's UV mapping is pretty inefficient. Not to mention anything built in Hammer isn't going to look nearly as nice as a properly modelled... prop.

It's handy for large bits of geometry though (things like complex trims, supports etc.). Func_lod doesn't quite cut it. Also handy for any dynamic parts of your map, where pre-compiled lighting is going to look icky as stuff moves around.

Thanks Kif! NEVER noticed func_lod either, i will have to play with it now.... You are now in command congratulations captain!

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