Fitting model to grid Created 7 years ago2016-05-10 21:41:52 UTC by kruk

Hi, i was thinking to get models as modules in my map but i noticed they don't fit ..even using a base cube model 32x32x32 i can't get it to fit like brush didnt use models like this in gold source so i guess this just is a common problem on the old engine?

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Hello,

maybe you can try to change the origin of the model, I asked for that one year ago:

http://twhl.info/forums.php?thread=18376

Oh no the pivot is in midle of the model and the model is 32 unitcube
the problem isnt it rendering or lighting just fitting by position.
Models made in in boundaries of a grid 64x64x64 with pivot on the grid dont fit

I think its just the engine thing/limitation, correct me if i'm wrong

This is a problem I've often experienced with Hammer. Point entities are always offset by a fraction of a unit for some reason. The only reason I could think of this being is it's either a bug or Valve thought it would be easier to select them if putting multiple point entities in the same spot. It's really only an inconvenience

hmm yea after some trial and error i thought it's just the old engine limitation this style of LA just dosnt work here.

Have you tried other editors? May be an issue with Hammer rather than Goldsource.

Possibly but learning a new editor just to check its alot for me atm XD
If someone can make this work on lets say jackhammer or something else
give it a shout ;]
btw im using Valve Hammer Editor 3.5.2 hmm did somone try it on 3.5.3?
3.5.3 is the newest right?

Have you tried exporting the Hammer geometry to Blender and work on top of that ? This is one of the technique used in Black Mesa Source.

Did you try Sledge?

Did export the dxf file for the first cube and it was perfect in the 3d app,
exporting it to mdl and viewing in hammer was the problem

Sledge? hmm at this point going for a different editor that i dont know just to test something minor that might even not work eh i just dont want to move from hammer XD anyone can confirm that its the editor issue??

btw it looks like this problem dosnt happen in hammer 4.1 for source.

Sledge is an improved version of Hammer so you will find your marks.

You can also try Jackhammer, another improved version of Hammer.

Testing it out on a different editor isn't that much of a hassle. You would just have to set up the game and compile configs again, which is easier given that A) You would already have everything you need, just have to point to it, and B) Sledge organizes those configs more neatly than Hammer.

P.S. Sledge is nigh-identical to Hammer in function, you don't have to learn anything. It'd take maybe ten minutes to test this stuff out, tops. (As for Jackhammer, I wouldn't know.)

I have the same issues in Sledge, i didn't knew Hammer acted likewise too, since i don't use it anymore. With Sledge however, you can zoom in beyond grid capability and move your models origin with pretty good accuracy, as long as you have off-grid/snap-grid/whatever-it's-called ticked off. I don't remember if this was a thing in Hammer as well.
There's workarounds for placing models precisely where they should be in maps but you have to do that within whatever modelling softare you're using, it will not work for modulars, which i think is what Kruk wants.

You can hold Alt to move objects around without snapping to the grid, I believe.

Ctrl-B? (Snap to Grid)

heh thx Ctrl-B did snap it right what i couldnt do by hand o-0
anyway got the position just still shows some minor errors

Think this is just the rendering engine? (did export two objeckts not welded as one smd and it shows same thing just in the game)

btw i use openGL on steam version dont know why but i cant set direckt3D ;/

And THX everyone for supporting this issue XD

The only thing I see is the little hole in the second screenshot. I don't know what is causing this, maybe it has to do with your model.

You can't use Direct3D in the Steam version anymore. I don't think that Software will change anything too.