First of all, this isn't another award winning 'Win a Free IPod!' posts.
Quite the contrary; I'm asking to share experiences of things similar to it.
Right, so I just signed up to:http://alienwaregiveaway.co.uk/index.php?referral=41365. But really, are people sappy enough to believe this?.... according to BBC Newsnight, yes! Well, they said it works in some fine examples such as Ipods, watches, jewels and so forth. They claim that advertisers are willing to 'bribe' people with luxurious rewards.
A bit of a long-shot, yes. But considering that advertisers are doing literally anything to get their product across, who are we to judge them? Considering myself being in the development industry, I don't see the harm in trying new methods of marketing.
OK, enough :lol:; what's your experience of finding things similar to it?
Free Alienware pc? - say it ain't so
Created 18 years ago2006-01-28 16:41:23 UTC by
Kaido
Created 18 years ago2006-01-28 16:41:23 UTC by
Kaido
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-28 16:41:23 UTC
Post #160109
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-28 17:17:20 UTC
Post #160112
I wouldn't take it even it was free. Alienware suck balls.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-28 17:46:29 UTC
Post #160118
well at least it's free! (if u don't want it , send it to Meee! you pay for P&P)
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-28 18:40:53 UTC
Post #160135
I wouldn't mind a new PC even though this baby can handle enough.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-28 21:00:00 UTC
Post #160161
Hey I have an Alienware! It's perfect in every way, and highly upgradable. Dont badmouth Alienware. (Also their customer support is superb) DELL is the one thats no good.............
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-28 21:02:56 UTC
Post #160162
yeah, i hear from loads of people that Alienware are terrible.. but nobody seems to give reason.. and PCGamer and stuff love them.. they have great specs and reasonable prices, plus uber-cool cases. what IS so bad about them?
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-28 22:12:51 UTC
Post #160171
most prebuilt pcs generally suck ass...selfbuild ftw
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 00:55:07 UTC
Post #160184
Alienwares are fine...but you do pay a ridiculous amount of money for the machine.
You can generally bulid the exact same one yourself with half the cost...and you don't have to settle for some component you don't like or want.
You pay for the convenience.
You can generally bulid the exact same one yourself with half the cost...and you don't have to settle for some component you don't like or want.
You pay for the convenience.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 06:20:34 UTC
Post #160207
"Laziness", more like. A massive amount, too.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 07:51:35 UTC
Post #160218
i think every1 first / second computer will probably be a manufacture... like me, i had a company put mine together, but now, im looking inside and thinking - this ain't so hard. so next time, im gonna have a lot of fun getting the components, and doing in my own time, and for much less. and, as satchmo said, you can leave out what you don't care about, and spend that money on upgrading something more important to you,- an option not always avalible from companies.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 11:55:44 UTC
Post #160278
nobody seems to give reasonThere is no reason as far as i'm concerned. They get bashed by elitists who think they know more than they actually do.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 14:10:31 UTC
Post #160314
Alienware can really make some nice computers, although the fact that you pay way too much for it is true..
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 14:25:41 UTC
Post #160317
its like ipods though 
they cost loads an they're crap... you pay for the name, whereas you can get like a sony one, same size, etc, for about ?50 cheaper. its just alienware has earned respect, hence the prices. people know the products are quality
they cost loads an they're crap... you pay for the name, whereas you can get like a sony one, same size, etc, for about ?50 cheaper. its just alienware has earned respect, hence the prices. people know the products are quality
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 19:58:20 UTC
Post #160414
Bah, I have to agree with m0p here, Alienware and most general prefabs suck. The only reason why you should choose an Alienware over anything else is because of the shiny cases. Even then there are some nicer ones out there. Also, you do have to pay a huge premium for what.... a case and assembly?
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 20:56:02 UTC
Post #160423
Still no reason as to why they suck so badly..
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 23:35:43 UTC
Post #160441
Well...
1) it's an amazing waste of money.
2) A lot of the time the cases are proprietary meaning you can't upgrade as easily.
3) They come pre-installed with bloatware.
4) They say they provide extra quality but the only thing that they make is the case, so therefore it's all marketing BS.
5) They sell P4's as gaming processors.
How about those reasons Sari?
1) it's an amazing waste of money.
2) A lot of the time the cases are proprietary meaning you can't upgrade as easily.
3) They come pre-installed with bloatware.
4) They say they provide extra quality but the only thing that they make is the case, so therefore it's all marketing BS.
5) They sell P4's as gaming processors.
How about those reasons Sari?
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-29 23:39:25 UTC
Post #160442
You can build a computer that is just as good as an Aliencrap for half the price.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 06:24:51 UTC
Post #160464
@fourthgen. Can you prove those claims are true or did you just pull them out of your ass?
That's exactly what people say about HP, Dell, compaq, your mother and so on. Seems like it's the same rumour going around.
That's exactly what people say about HP, Dell, compaq, your mother and so on. Seems like it's the same rumour going around.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 13:49:58 UTC
Post #160523
Self Build > All prefabs.
I could build myself a PC (this is going back about a year BTW) for Apx. ?1,000 that in the shops, for the exact same setup, but prefabed, costed ?2,499.
Its so simple, you order the parts online, wait for them to be delivered then assemble them. I think a lot of people buy prefabed computers because they belive they will last longer and not break down as much. Personally I find its the other way around.
I could build myself a PC (this is going back about a year BTW) for Apx. ?1,000 that in the shops, for the exact same setup, but prefabed, costed ?2,499.
Its so simple, you order the parts online, wait for them to be delivered then assemble them. I think a lot of people buy prefabed computers because they belive they will last longer and not break down as much. Personally I find its the other way around.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 13:58:07 UTC
Post #160525
I think a lot of people are afraid to build their own computer because they think they might not know how.
But the instruction manual that comes with the motherboard tells you exactly what to do. Unless someone is illiterate, anyone can build his own machine.
But the instruction manual that comes with the motherboard tells you exactly what to do. Unless someone is illiterate, anyone can build his own machine.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 15:52:57 UTC
Post #160552
@SariBous:
1) Whoah calm down!
2) What claims? They are all valid facts. I know many people with Alienware computers and they all regret it.
1) Whoah calm down!
2) What claims? They are all valid facts. I know many people with Alienware computers and they all regret it.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 16:26:13 UTC
Post #160561
The good thing about prefab computers is the warranty. Yes you can get a warranty on single parts, but if something goes wrong, its more of a hassle to find the problem, then actually get another one.
BTW, Alienware does not suck. All stupid rumors that go around by dumbasses who dont like Alienware for some reason.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 16:29:59 UTC
Post #160562
People comment on Alienware because they're even more overpriced than most, it's as simple as that :|.
How can you be so interested in a company responsible for putting stuff in boxes?
How can you be so interested in a company responsible for putting stuff in boxes?
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 16:42:02 UTC
Post #160563
Hey i'm totally calm, just having a normal discussion 
What claims? They are all valid facts. I know many people with Alienware computers and they all regret it.How appropriate, I know many people with Alienware comps who love 'em. See? That aint good enough. I guess you don't have any real evidence then.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 16:48:13 UTC
Post #160564
What? How can you seriously care who assembled a load of parts designed by Korean and Japanese electronic engineers and manufactured by underpaid Chinese and Malaysian factory workers months before? Alienware don't make PCs, they make cases, if that.
If you want to argue about computers, talk about AMD and Intel, or ATI and nVidia, not Dell and Alienware :|.
If you want to argue about computers, talk about AMD and Intel, or ATI and nVidia, not Dell and Alienware :|.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-30 17:15:25 UTC
Post #160566
Woo, Go Seventh!! IMO, Make your own computer. In the end, the result is much more satisfying, and you do save money. In IRC, I picked out parts that totalled a little under $800 for a computer Alienware would charge well over $2000 for. (With m0p's and Seventh's help of course). As for everyone here who hates m0p's computer "knowability," you don't know sh*t, this man is very knowlegable when it comes to computers. Final point - Alienware charges for assembly and the case, everything else is another company's part. There is no reason for it to cost double!
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-31 00:32:28 UTC
Post #160625
Order a computer from AP-PC.
do you know why?
because your getting close to selfbuilt prices with a slight warrenty, and quality assembly.
and because thats the label I sell PC/notebooks to my old school and friends under
do you know why?
because your getting close to selfbuilt prices with a slight warrenty, and quality assembly.
and because thats the label I sell PC/notebooks to my old school and friends under
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-31 01:25:39 UTC
Post #160632
As for everyone here who hates m0p's computer "knowability," you don't know sh*t, this man is very knowlegable when it comes to computers.Couldn't fix my problems, that dang noob.
Anywho, I agree with building it yourself and I don't. There's a better solution: buy the parts, and get a small computer store to build it for you for a minimal service charge. If you buy the parts from the store and ask them to build it, they will be covered under the warrenty if something goes wrong.
If you buy the parts, build it yourself and something goes wrong, you're got a lot of work to do to get it replaced and whatnot. If the store borks it, its a lot easier. Obviously don't buy a Dell, because they're pieces of shit. Select the parts yourself, get the store to order them in and build it for you. Costs maybe 60-70 bucks for them to build it - pretty minimal charge for a computer that you're paying over a grand for.
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-31 17:47:00 UTC
Post #160812
HP and compaq are almost as bad as dell. they would be worse if anything could be worse then dell
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-31 19:39:13 UTC
Post #160832
How appropriate, I know many people with Alienware comps who love 'em. See? That ain't good enough. I guess you don't have any real evidence then.Funny, I'm not sure myself if this isn't something the BBC pulled out of its arse. But considering I have perhaps the slowest pc ever (can't play quake 4, thank you very much :furious:), I'm willing to give it a try.
And I have a link to the article on Ipod, if you're interested: http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/40101000/rm/_40101790_ipods_carver22_vi.ram
Oh, and sorry for the late reply; working on next game.
Edit your post next time. Also, sites that still use RealMedia should be burnt at the stake. Also, the iPod is a piece of trash. - Ant
Posted 18 years ago2006-01-31 22:35:13 UTC
Post #160849
great moderator commentary ant 
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 13:33:34 UTC
Post #160933
The whole fun in computing is doing things yourself. In my opinion buying a PC from Dell or Alienware(z) is like buying a website template. You do it 'cos you're lame 
Why pay a premium when you have the skills? Assembly doesn't even require skills, especially not in this community where everyone is so helpful and willing to give you a hand.
Why pay a premium when you have the skills? Assembly doesn't even require skills, especially not in this community where everyone is so helpful and willing to give you a hand.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 19:36:01 UTC
Post #160992
Funny, when I posted this....topic, I expected people to reply with schemes similar to alienware and Ipod. Christ, use your imagination people. There are plenty of sites that host schemes like it.
But never mind, I coooouuuulllld spend half a grand on a new uber h4x0urs rig (which seems like a good idea, thank you very much fourthgen ), but considering I've sank most of my money into the indie developer thing, I have to wait until my debut is finished before I can splash out on luxuries ;).
Still, thanks for the idea. But I think I'll give the free Alienware scheme a try; still have no idea why you guys detest them, do I detect a hint of jealousy?
But never mind, I coooouuuulllld spend half a grand on a new uber h4x0urs rig (which seems like a good idea, thank you very much fourthgen ), but considering I've sank most of my money into the indie developer thing, I have to wait until my debut is finished before I can splash out on luxuries ;).
Still, thanks for the idea. But I think I'll give the free Alienware scheme a try; still have no idea why you guys detest them, do I detect a hint of jealousy?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 19:51:18 UTC
Post #160994
still have no idea why you guys detest themThen you haven't read the replies very carefully :|.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 19:53:46 UTC
Post #160997
Then you haven't read the replies very carefullyFrom what I gather, you hate prebuilt computers. Am I correct?
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 19:55:50 UTC
Post #160998
That, and the fact that Alienwares are pretty expensive for what you get.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 20:01:22 UTC
Post #161001
That, and the fact that Alienwares are pretty expensive for what you get.Fair enough. As for me, well, I'm a sucker for the fringe benefits of buying things.
The Alienware apparently comes with a back catalogue of games, 2 t-shirts among other things. Still, obtaining a Alienware is becoming a popular craze. Under any other circumstance, I would be willing to pay for a retail alienware laptop....or any model cheaper than it.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 20:10:40 UTC
Post #161002
You'd pay a massive amount more than you could... for two t-shirts and a couple of games? That's stupid.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 20:15:01 UTC
Post #161003
You get a T-Shirt!!?
Well that just settles it, I'm buying one right now.
Well that just settles it, I'm buying one right now.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-01 21:07:39 UTC
Post #161007
You'd pay a massive amount more than you could... for two t-shirts and a couple of games? That's stupid.The novelty value wouldn't be a reason I'd buy it, nor the 'fringe benefits'. The package contains more: Photoshop programs, video editing, Microsoft Office. Take your pick.
To be brief, it's a tailor made suite with candy in the pockets ;).
(and it is not a massive amount in comparison to most custom made pcs. As I specified, I'm a sucker for fringe benefits. Therefore, I could imagine I would buy it. Being in a different financial situation)
You get a T-Shirt!!?Move with haste! Order while stocks last
Well that just settles it, I'm buying one right now.
Posted 18 years ago2006-02-02 13:23:51 UTC
Post #161105
To sum up what I've all been trying to say:
It's still cheaper even if you want all the extra apps. In fact most of them have a perfectly fine open-source equivalent. If you don't want to do open source, try long term trials
It's great to have full control of what goes in your computer. I would seriously rather buy a computer from Dell because the only plausible reason to get a PC from Alienware is because there is so much performance hype for those machines. Alienware computers often lose a lot of performance because they have partnerships which they are forced to stick to.
Oh and to counter the novelty value I will give you a free T-Shirt and your own copy of NetBSD if you custom build
It's still cheaper even if you want all the extra apps. In fact most of them have a perfectly fine open-source equivalent. If you don't want to do open source, try long term trials
It's great to have full control of what goes in your computer. I would seriously rather buy a computer from Dell because the only plausible reason to get a PC from Alienware is because there is so much performance hype for those machines. Alienware computers often lose a lot of performance because they have partnerships which they are forced to stick to.
Oh and to counter the novelty value I will give you a free T-Shirt and your own copy of NetBSD if you custom build
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