Competition 20
Created 18 years ago2006-04-12 17:03:47 UTC by
Seventh-Monkey
Created 18 years ago2006-04-12 17:03:47 UTC by
Seventh-Monkey
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 08:26:27 UTC
Post #174219
Does it really matter if it only happens there? You can still edit it.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 08:29:36 UTC
Post #174221
after thinking about it, i decided im not entering. i want to play all the entries tho. pity only 1st 2nd and 3rd are uploaded...
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 08:44:18 UTC
Post #174228
So this compo will be judged upon:
-Atmosphere
-Detail
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Anything else?
Oh, and ZL, make sure you got the medkit unpacked.
-Atmosphere
-Detail
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Anything else?
Oh, and ZL, make sure you got the medkit unpacked.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 10:55:10 UTC
Post #174256
kekekeekekeeeekeeekekekekeeeeeeeeekeeeee
/me promises he will finish so he finally has a gold trophy
/me promises he will finish so he finally has a gold trophy
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 11:01:27 UTC
Post #174260
Imagination, etc. All the obvious stuff that makes up all mapping.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 13:07:27 UTC
Post #174294
In the past 2 competitions I proposed, people complained that the theme was too complicated and there was too much to do. This is quite a simple and easy competition. I could think of many ways to change the map according to the rules that would make it almost impossible to recognize. Saying that the map cuts down your freedom or imagination is false, it just sounds like an excuse...
I get the feeling that few people here map for fun. If you want to create your ultra cool layout and map, go ahead. But to get this trophy, you have to be better than the rest doing the same thing. That's what competitions are usually about
If anyone has serious doubts on what you can/can't do, but wants to keep it secret, send a private message.
Give us liberty to do everything in the inside with the same layoutThat's the whole idea...
why do you give us base maps? It's not a mapping compo, it's an editing compoIsn't mapping the same as editing? You create, change, texture and move brushes around, and you place entities and change their properties.
I get the feeling that few people here map for fun. If you want to create your ultra cool layout and map, go ahead. But to get this trophy, you have to be better than the rest doing the same thing. That's what competitions are usually about
If anyone has serious doubts on what you can/can't do, but wants to keep it secret, send a private message.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 13:25:46 UTC
Post #174301
Well summarised.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 15:07:34 UTC
Post #174321
Well I'll ask my question which I think you sort of answered up there but I just want to be entirely sure - I can move/delete pre-existing brushes and add new ones, so long as the layout's the same?
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 15:25:56 UTC
Post #174327
Yeah, but... not too much.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 17:49:34 UTC
Post #174353
That's the whole idea...By giving as already made artitecture isn't the thing I ment, it limits you.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 18:43:10 UTC
Post #174369
Elon, when you put your back into it and win another gold trophy, you can make a better compo, okay? Kasperg earned the right to submit his compo idea, and frankly, i think its great. stop whining, start mapping
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 20:08:48 UTC
Post #174378
Well said Kasperg, Hunter.
I like base maps, as long as there limited to 1 room, just having 4 rooms not including hallways, well, my compo may lag a bit..lets just leave it at that, hope thats alright. lol
But hey, I love base maps, there fun as hell.
I like base maps, as long as there limited to 1 room, just having 4 rooms not including hallways, well, my compo may lag a bit..lets just leave it at that, hope thats alright. lol
But hey, I love base maps, there fun as hell.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 20:38:34 UTC
Post #174384
mmm, high r_speed galore. look out for the insane entity setup of my improbabily drive entry
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-14 21:51:22 UTC
Post #174390
i want a source from base map 
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-15 14:54:58 UTC
Post #174496
High r_speeds are OK with me, as long as there are no errors running the map.
Dr. Mapper has to decide the theme for the next Source competition.
Dr. Mapper has to decide the theme for the next Source competition.
By giving as already made artitecture isn't the thing I ment, it limits youLet's see who can make the best with those limits then
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-15 15:40:38 UTC
Post #174499
I think those who think they are that limited is because they have a limited imagination. I started mapping the moment the compo opened, and quite frankly, I don't feel limited whatsoever. The only thing I can't do is change the layout, or structure.. and so far it's looking amazing. Although it lags a bit, because of the sparks, and other sprites I'm using, and the amount of detail.. I'm hoping to familiarize myself with the hint brush.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-15 15:51:58 UTC
Post #174502
my PC really lags when I play this map for some reason.
Only when I'm in the start position, and looking down the tunnel, to the doorway.
Can anyone explain ? I haven't changed the map in any way.
Does it really matter if it only happens there? You can still edit it.Guess not, but I thought my file might be corrupt or something, since nothing else ever lags on my PC,
so I don't want to send in a corrupt compo entry.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 16:25:57 UTC
Post #174654
You're basically just stuck with the underground base theme...Fie! I'm remaking the theme entirely, with good progress.
It's nice to see how another mapper works... I must say, the basemap is quite... messy. Overlapping brushes, unnecesary brushes, stretched textures...
But it looks good, I must admit.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 18:27:07 UTC
Post #174670
Excellent stuff, ZL. I trust you'll serve as a role model for other, less imaginative mappers. Finish the map, though, or I'll turn you into a lady.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 18:52:33 UTC
Post #174674
I didnt notice the map had some errors. It compiled perfectly last time I saved it. It's a good thing we play BSPs instead of RMFs!
Who knows what horrible issues the rest of my RMFs might have...
I usually don't dedicate much time to optimize brushwork or even texturing, while theme, lighting, layout and gameflow are usually my priorities.
I'll try to be more careful if I ever have to make a base map again.
Who knows what horrible issues the rest of my RMFs might have...
I usually don't dedicate much time to optimize brushwork or even texturing, while theme, lighting, layout and gameflow are usually my priorities.
I'll try to be more careful if I ever have to make a base map again.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 20:10:44 UTC
Post #174684
Well, Gameflow is going to be a problem for me, with the amount of detail, my entry will lag like crazy, I suggested a few level changes, but was turned down. 
So, right now, I can't have any explosions in case of it freezing up. :
So, right now, I can't have any explosions in case of it freezing up. :
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 20:38:02 UTC
Post #174685
I changed the theme rntierly. Can I remove the pipes and ventelation... they wont fit in my map.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 20:47:03 UTC
Post #174687
You can remove them if you want to, but I wouldn't. They were there for a reason. I don't know why people complicate themselves so much. The map is full of hints and things that are breakable etc. If three people manage to do a great map using the pipes and get the trophies, don't you start complaining 
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 21:09:22 UTC
Post #174689
I understand but the place I'm building isn't new, infact it's really old, and I mean about 2 thousand years old.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 21:31:53 UTC
Post #174690
Kasperg: I have to stress the importance of optimisation. Overlapping brushes are pretty much death in any map because they cause CSG to go berserk, which equals longer compile times, which equals laggier map.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-16 22:21:27 UTC
Post #174694
I am well aware of that, but the overlaps in this RMF are minimal. In fact, some people are thinking that some of those brushes are overlapping, but they are actually func_walls, and they don't interfere with world brushes.
I've never had any problems with compile times in any HL map, and longer compile times don't mean laggier maps. The final BSP faces will be the same, but the process needed to decide those faces is longer.
I've never had any problems with compile times in any HL map, and longer compile times don't mean laggier maps. The final BSP faces will be the same, but the process needed to decide those faces is longer.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 00:28:52 UTC
Post #174707
I'll probably enter, I havn't read the posts before this one because camping has killed me. 
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 02:19:31 UTC
Post #174711
i changed my mind - i am entering now
so far i have removed a few brushes and manipulated others
so far i have removed a few brushes and manipulated others
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 02:35:20 UTC
Post #174713
Kasperg: Dunno about that, there's a few...
Even though some may be func_walled, it's still good practice to work as if they aren't.
Been a while since I messed with Wally. Not sure if my idea will be impressive, but it's looking cute so far.
Even though some may be func_walled, it's still good practice to work as if they aren't.
Been a while since I messed with Wally. Not sure if my idea will be impressive, but it's looking cute so far.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 10:19:07 UTC
Post #174783
submitted my map.
who's judging?
who's judging?
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 11:16:40 UTC
Post #174788
I submitted mine the second day of the competition... it's shit though because there's nothing to work my idea on... oh well... at least its not surreal like i was going to make it...
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 12:34:25 UTC
Post #174808
wtf....
Guys, don't submit your maps so early. You won't win. Work on them and make them GREAT
Guys, don't submit your maps so early. You won't win. Work on them and make them GREAT
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 13:01:53 UTC
Post #174813
yeh, if you finish early, don't send them in yet.. there might be something you would like to change in a week or two, but now it's too late.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 14:01:30 UTC
Post #174822
no its not, you can submit more than 1 maps..
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 16:36:49 UTC
Post #174842
Yeah, so let's flood the judges with tons of crappy maps, THAT'll make 'em appreciate us.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 20:31:16 UTC
Post #174864
who's judging?Kasperg and Alex. Unless Spence want's to do it, he's not entering the compo.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 21:00:34 UTC
Post #174873
Whoever wins, and pics the next topic.. can they participate in the next compo? If he is not judging that is. :
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-17 21:13:07 UTC
Post #174875
The person who wins can't participate in the next compo, no.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 03:03:53 UTC
Post #174893
Actually, they probably can... I mean, we're quite far behind on winners' compos, aren't we?
The next compo will be a source one, and i'm pretty sure there is somebody still to choose that idea..
It'll be a couple of compos before the winner of this one gets to choose, won't it?
The next compo will be a source one, and i'm pretty sure there is somebody still to choose that idea..
It'll be a couple of compos before the winner of this one gets to choose, won't it?
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 03:06:26 UTC
Post #174895
It'll be... one competition. The Source interlude.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 03:07:36 UTC
Post #174896
but what about Rimrook winning the HLDM compo? or does that still count as an un-official
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 03:35:43 UTC
Post #174899
That was for Muzz's server, I think it was just advertised on TWHL as it were.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 05:47:21 UTC
Post #174912
Yeah, so let's flood the judges with tons of crappy maps, THAT'll make 'em appreciate us.Well, we wont.But I dont know about you.And Throstur is sorta new to compos so take it easy.
About the compo:
Do we have to make the player move around? or can we use trigger_camera?
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 05:49:01 UTC
Post #174914
You can do whichever.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 09:25:43 UTC
Post #174939
so, that means, I'll have to wait a month, for another compo. Why did HL2 have to come out with such wicked graphics. Why can't my PC handle... just why..
I SAY 2 COMPOS AT ONCE! : or at least start the HL2 one 2 weeks after the HL1. (Which would be next week)
This way a new halflife 1 compo can start 2 weeks after it is closed.
(HL2, and HL1 Closing would close on the same date)
(Giving judges 2 weeks to judge and come up with the results.)
I SAY 2 COMPOS AT ONCE! : or at least start the HL2 one 2 weeks after the HL1. (Which would be next week)
This way a new halflife 1 compo can start 2 weeks after it is closed.
(HL2, and HL1 Closing would close on the same date)
(Giving judges 2 weeks to judge and come up with the results.)
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 15:59:37 UTC
Post #175005
its been discussed so many times, Unbreakable... The majority liked having 1 compo running each month.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 18:18:30 UTC
Post #175026
I did a final compile today.. the bsp file is 9MiB.. 
largest yet I've had.
Anyways.. never sent it in yet.. just in case I want to change something in the future.
largest yet I've had.Anyways.. never sent it in yet.. just in case I want to change something in the future.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-18 18:27:53 UTC
Post #175030
i will kill you all with r_speeds.
Awsome Compo, kasperg. I can't wait to start on it.
Awsome Compo, kasperg. I can't wait to start on it.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-19 06:03:01 UTC
Post #175079
I decided not to enter... I already have 4 maps and 2 tutorials to make. 
So I have enough to do already.
So I have enough to do already.
Posted 18 years ago2006-04-19 13:11:24 UTC
Post #175189
...eeer a month is too long! I want to send it in...!
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