Well, it seems like a good idea to me. I like reading through these threads, watching people progress through the creative process of making a map, so i decided to make one too.
The map i am wanting to show here is quite significant in my mapping life, because it is my first venture into source custom materials. (thanks habboi)
It's set in and around Microplay, a LAN centre in Glasgow.. It's a huge project because i am going to have to map at least a square half-mile of Glasgow, and anyone who has been in a busy city will understand how tricky this will prove to be.
Anyways, here's some images of the textures i made for it, in a little test map.
Note Every texture is normal-mapped for 3D effect, which took a lot of getting used to. <3 Photoshop Note
SCORE BOARDS
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8841/demicroplay0000et0.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4193/demicroplay0001hi0.jpg
WHITE BOARD
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/931/demicroplay0002om4.jpg
DOOR
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6708/demicroplay0003xl9.jpg
THE FAMOUS SIGN
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2442/demicroplay0004tc9.jpg
LIGHT FITTINGS
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3033/demicroplay0005jf7.jpg
MINUTE DETAILS
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7924/demicroplay0006ot3.jpg
Hunter Projects!
Created 17 years ago2006-08-26 20:15:41 UTC by
Archie
Created 17 years ago2006-08-26 20:15:41 UTC by
Archie
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-26 20:15:41 UTC
Post #194685
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-26 20:24:36 UTC
Post #194686
Not bad for your first bumpmaped materials.
They look too clean, which might be the case with the real life place, but as game textures they could use more noise.
They look too clean, which might be the case with the real life place, but as game textures they could use more noise.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 07:47:55 UTC
Post #194741
Heh...He's right...They do look clean...Really smooth like...Like he said add noise and in Hammer splash on some decals.
Oh and I'm curious to see how close it looks to the real thing...Could you llike do a real / game shot?
Another concern is...Your chocolate bars which looks great...One looks shiny...Is that because it is made shiny in-game or is the texture shiny due to you taking a picture of it...
Oh and I'm curious to see how close it looks to the real thing...Could you llike do a real / game shot?
Another concern is...Your chocolate bars which looks great...One looks shiny...Is that because it is made shiny in-game or is the texture shiny due to you taking a picture of it...
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 08:52:22 UTC
Post #194748
bit of both habboi
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 08:55:42 UTC
Post #194749
Does it look ok? Lighting on a texture and lighting in-game clash with each other.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 08:55:46 UTC
Post #194750
A third possibility would be applying a "plastify" filter to the textures.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 08:56:06 UTC
Post #194751
do those materials have a script that updates them or something? now THAT would be special
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 08:58:21 UTC
Post #194752
And would totally ruin the map 
Especially if someone had an older version and CLASH...You can't join.
Especially if someone had an older version and CLASH...You can't join.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:01:13 UTC
Post #194753
Yeah like have a working rank board on a map. Hey I saw my name lol.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:02:13 UTC
Post #194754
Oh is THAT what would happen? Hmmm.... That could present a problem.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:03:29 UTC
Post #194756
But it's impossible unless Hunter updated the map everyday 
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:06:22 UTC
Post #194757
I bet SOMEONE could pull it off. None of us probably, but I bet it COULD be possible without re-doing the map constantly. But like a super-awesome programmer monster at valve could. I hear they have those in cages. Thats how they make awesome games. Programmer monsters.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:10:32 UTC
Post #194758
With the scripting capabilities of the engine I bet its possible, albiet probably only in a sandbox mod like gmod
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:14:18 UTC
Post #194759
in stand-alone CSS, i am almost certain it wouldnt be possible.
Instead, i have several versions of each scoreboard which will change every few minutes.
Instead, i have several versions of each scoreboard which will change every few minutes.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:14:38 UTC
Post #194760
Yes it could be possible for a 'custom' mod but he's doing this for CS:S and so he can't change anything.
The only way I see it is he would have to predict the future, make scoreboard textures from now till next year and then make them into textures, hide them and somehow tell the map to display it each day...Does CS:S have a clock? :S
The only way I see it is he would have to predict the future, make scoreboard textures from now till next year and then make them into textures, hide them and somehow tell the map to display it each day...Does CS:S have a clock? :S
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:29:14 UTC
Post #194761
They aren't bad but as people have said, they need some lighting and grime on them 
Use the dodge and brun tool to add scratches and lumps.
Use the dodge and brun tool to add scratches and lumps.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 09:59:21 UTC
Post #194764
its strange that some games with the 'dirty' look textures are said to be 'realistic' even though games with boring levels like fear are more accurate
although maybe its a good thing, fear is damn boring.
although maybe its a good thing, fear is damn boring.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 10:19:28 UTC
Post #194766
I don't know much about CSS mapping, although if you had some app, that would update the material file, once the rankings change - it should be possible.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 10:37:09 UTC
Post #194768
Coding for Mani Admin could be the key to updated materials via server-side information...
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 12:24:24 UTC
Post #194779
Even so...Hunter would have to make a new texture each time and I doubt he would do that ;D
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 13:09:24 UTC
Post #194788
Your missing the point lol.
There is a way to generate a image using code.
You know when you sign-up for certain forums and they require you to type the same text in an image?
That image is randomnly-generated.
If it's possible in PHP then it must be possible in C++ or whatever.
There is a way to generate a image using code.
You know when you sign-up for certain forums and they require you to type the same text in an image?
That image is randomnly-generated.
If it's possible in PHP then it must be possible in C++ or whatever.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 13:46:49 UTC
Post #194796
Lol, no point debating it, guys. It's not gonna happen.
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 14:16:24 UTC
Post #194801
Well, they do serve the purpose of looking like white boards. I dont see any reason to normal map them, and I dont see any normal map effects on them at all. They look like they were made in paint. Too plain, and no effects age or anything at all. Everything in this world has some effects of age, or scratches, or signs of construction.
Materials like these do not require a normal map on them. Thats why its not noticed. Normal mapping is for indentations in rock, or metal. It shows depth in 2D, but light is applied to it like its 3D. None of your materials need a normal map on them.
They are good for creating a unique theme in the map. Very crisp and clean looking. Maybe apply a specular reflection lightly on the white board with the writing masked to stand out.
Just try to remember not everything needs a normal map........
Materials like these do not require a normal map on them. Thats why its not noticed. Normal mapping is for indentations in rock, or metal. It shows depth in 2D, but light is applied to it like its 3D. None of your materials need a normal map on them.
They are good for creating a unique theme in the map. Very crisp and clean looking. Maybe apply a specular reflection lightly on the white board with the writing masked to stand out.
Just try to remember not everything needs a normal map........
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 14:28:21 UTC
Post #194805
Everything in this world has some effects of age, or scratches, or signs of construction.True, and changed.
Materials like these do not require a normal map on them. Thats why its not noticed.You cant see it on the ceiling, the walls, the doors or the light fixtures? :S
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-27 14:29:17 UTC
Post #194806
no, 
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-30 17:22:11 UTC
Post #195130
Yay Hunter Projects!!! (Even if they are Source, lol)
Neat textures. I always wanted to do one of this place near my domicile, but alas...I'm gay
Neat textures. I always wanted to do one of this place near my domicile, but alas...I'm gay
Posted 17 years ago2006-08-31 06:07:18 UTC
Post #195163
but alas...I'm gayo_0
Show us updates bitch!
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 13:14:52 UTC
Post #195300
Some pre-beta in-game shots of the center itself.
the Front desk
Stations near the desk
High view of the center
High view of the center 2
The back wall & Scoreboard
***
And here are some real-life shots for you to compare... Erm, its busy, though.
http://www.microplaygaming.com/mginside.jpg
http://www.microplaygaming.com/pic1.jpg
the Front desk
Stations near the desk
High view of the center
High view of the center 2
The back wall & Scoreboard
***
And here are some real-life shots for you to compare... Erm, its busy, though.
http://www.microplaygaming.com/mginside.jpg
http://www.microplaygaming.com/pic1.jpg
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 13:24:50 UTC
Post #195303
Even if the centre itself has really smooth walls - the wall textures should still have a more noticeable bumpmap (if it's plastic - try something gradient-like).
Something else to break up the emptiness of the walls would be great too. More supports, maybe some horizontal ones in the upper part?
Try rotating the monitors/comps/changing the view on the screen to give it a more realistic, random-ish look.
Something else to break up the emptiness of the walls would be great too. More supports, maybe some horizontal ones in the upper part?
Try rotating the monitors/comps/changing the view on the screen to give it a more realistic, random-ish look.
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 13:32:45 UTC
Post #195305
Nice. Very accurate. Custom content?
Very accurate. Custom content?
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 13:33:25 UTC
Post #195306
Looking pretty good but a few things:
1. Add a point_spotlight on the projector.
2. If you haven't then I suggest you do so...Take your pictures on full graphics because if you haven't then you have that annoying ugly effect I see on most map threads...People take pictures and their maps look nasty due to low graphics.
I mean compare a low quality picture of a map to a brilliant map and you can tell why yours looks bad if you get me. Man I hate that effect!
And I see...GMOD!?
1. Add a point_spotlight on the projector.
2. If you haven't then I suggest you do so...Take your pictures on full graphics because if you haven't then you have that annoying ugly effect I see on most map threads...People take pictures and their maps look nasty due to low graphics.
I mean compare a low quality picture of a map to a brilliant map and you can tell why yours looks bad if you get me. Man I hate that effect!
And I see...GMOD!?
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 13:42:02 UTC
Post #195309
Habboi, that made almost no sense, but i believe you're talking about anti-aliasing? If so, my HL2 crashes when i try. too graphically intense for a 128mb card.
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 13:53:24 UTC
Post #195313
I do make sense actualy...It's hard to explain but I look at every map thread on Iwannamap and Interlopers and everyday I see good and bad maps...What makes them good from bad?
The way they present them...I see good maps taken with ultra nice graphics and brilliant textures.
Then I see poor maps with nasty pixelation and bad texture choices...
Your map although very close to the real deal has rather 'low' quality textures. I can't find an example right now cause lunch is ready but I'll find one later if I can.
The way they present them...I see good maps taken with ultra nice graphics and brilliant textures.
Then I see poor maps with nasty pixelation and bad texture choices...
Your map although very close to the real deal has rather 'low' quality textures. I can't find an example right now cause lunch is ready but I'll find one later if I can.
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 13:54:23 UTC
Post #195314
too graphically intense for a 128mb card.... not really. :
Now that I've seen the pictures of the real place, I see you're doing a good job. But perhaps you could give yourself more freedom and change the place to make it look more interesting. Maybe adding big posters of your favourite LAN games etc.
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 14:00:59 UTC
Post #195316
I can run my game fine on a 9600XT 128mb w/ settings set to high...just don't play online
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 14:42:28 UTC
Post #195319
Ah well that was a nice dinner...Anyway I failed to mention your lighting is not so great...Change those lights to texture lights - Google how to do it.
I can tell you didn't show those pictures for the lighting but even so I have to say it ruins the quality of the pictures...The lighting almost made me cry as much as when I saw a friend of mine make this:
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7640/aimsupermarketbeta0004iq5.jpg
(No offence to him)
Anyway I've learnt from the past few days that if something doesn't look good it gets better the next time you work on it...
I can tell you didn't show those pictures for the lighting but even so I have to say it ruins the quality of the pictures...The lighting almost made me cry as much as when I saw a friend of mine make this:
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7640/aimsupermarketbeta0004iq5.jpg
(No offence to him)
Anyway I've learnt from the past few days that if something doesn't look good it gets better the next time you work on it...
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 15:47:19 UTC
Post #195326
MY EYES! D:
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 15:54:52 UTC
Post #195328
habboi just took high-res pics, with 8x anti-aliasing and it looks sooo much better.
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0000.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0002.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0001.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0003.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0006.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0008.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0009.jpg
(if the images appear the same as before, hit F5 on your browser)
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0000.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0002.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0001.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0003.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0006.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0008.jpg
http://hunter.weebitmagic.com/images/de_microplay0009.jpg
(if the images appear the same as before, hit F5 on your browser)
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 18:35:57 UTC
Post #195345
I am too kind Just call me God from now on Hunter.
Just call me God from now on Hunter.
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 19:03:31 UTC
Post #195347
wheres all the games!?
My Microplay down here has no pcs, only game rentals.. :/
My Microplay down here has no pcs, only game rentals.. :/
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 19:07:41 UTC
Post #195349
Are those projector score materials translucent? They should be. A projection is not like a TV on a wall. Its kind of like a ghostly image.
If you dont know how to do it, add this line to the materials .vmt....
"$translucent" "1"
In the materials .vtf file, add an alpha channel. Black is fully visible through, white is not. Maybe adjust the whole material as a light grey. The greyscale is a reference for the translucent command to check on the opacity of the image.
Anyway, it looks good, resembles FEAR a bit. You should have like cheetos bags, or chips lying around. I think there are props from CS militia for that
A BAWLS energy drink poster would be funny too
Good job XD
If you dont know how to do it, add this line to the materials .vmt....
"$translucent" "1"
In the materials .vtf file, add an alpha channel. Black is fully visible through, white is not. Maybe adjust the whole material as a light grey. The greyscale is a reference for the translucent command to check on the opacity of the image.
Anyway, it looks good, resembles FEAR a bit. You should have like cheetos bags, or chips lying around. I think there are props from CS militia for that
A BAWLS energy drink poster would be funny too
Good job XD
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-01 19:14:34 UTC
Post #195350
the projector screens are indeed slightly transparent, and much more simply than what you're thinking of.
render mode: texture
Fx ammount: 180
render mode: texture
Fx ammount: 180
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-02 03:07:44 UTC
Post #195364
Sexy as hell. 
Can't wait to see the c4 exploding there. Blood, gibs n' props everywhere!!
Can't wait to see the c4 exploding there. Blood, gibs n' props everywhere!!
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-02 08:35:38 UTC
Post #195383
See Hunter...The power of deception always works You can thank me on MSN later.
You can thank me on MSN later.
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-03 19:25:33 UTC
Post #195507
Textures are quite very sexy!! It's pretty stuff like this that makes me want to map for source
One problem though...WHERE'S THE DAMN SNACK BAR ??!1
One problem though...WHERE'S THE DAMN SNACK BAR ??!1
Posted 17 years ago2006-09-04 07:17:11 UTC
Post #195549
in your nose lol!
collapses in a seizure
The map, when complete will be placed on the Microplay 24/7 server tp be enjoyed by LAN lovers forever
collapses in a seizure
The map, when complete will be placed on the Microplay 24/7 server tp be enjoyed by LAN lovers forever
Posted 17 years ago2006-10-19 20:09:36 UTC
Post #200176
Just to let you guys know i've started work on a new HL:DM map for Muzz's server.
At the moment, that's all the details you're getting, because my idea is pretty crazy, and there is a huge chance it won't work
Oh, and i changed the location of the previously linked images.
You can now find them HERE
At the moment, that's all the details you're getting, because my idea is pretty crazy, and there is a huge chance it won't work
Oh, and i changed the location of the previously linked images.
You can now find them HERE
Posted 17 years ago2006-10-19 20:29:13 UTC
Post #200178
Make those ceiling lights text-lights They look good tho I like that Twix!
They look good tho I like that Twix!
Posted 17 years ago2006-10-20 03:47:02 UTC
Post #200204
Just to let you guys know i've started work on a new HL:DM map for Muzz's server.Yay!
Posted 17 years ago2007-04-07 11:08:42 UTC
Post #218318
de_clayman (1.6) gonna get all pimpin' on yo' ass!
(this is kinda reminder to Daubster, and to indicate that I'm ready to commence work on it. MSN, buddy!)
anyhoo:
de_clayman
CS 1.6
A joint effort from Daubeh and Hunteh.
Keep eyes on this thread for updates
(this is kinda reminder to Daubster, and to indicate that I'm ready to commence work on it. MSN, buddy!)
anyhoo:
de_clayman
CS 1.6
A joint effort from Daubeh and Hunteh.
Keep eyes on this thread for updates
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