Video card? uh?

Penguinboy

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 04:30:00 UTC Post #227889

first, you need a new PSU
235W isnt enough
look for around 450W minimum
then, get an AGP card. a 7600GS, as i said before, will be ALOT better than the one you're running now at a good price. if you want to spend more then look around.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 04:48:59 UTC Post #227891

Penguinboy, are you talking about this 7600GS?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Inno3D-GeForce-7600GS-256MB-Graphics/dp/tech-data/B000HEYTYC/ref=de_a_smtd/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&qid=1183884459&sr=8-1

is it gona let me run oblivion with no lag?

Edit:

Srry. Uhh, how to know whats my mother board? xD

uhh, well my comp is windows xp Home edition. Ei-system. Intel(R). Celeron (R)

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Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 05:13:37 UTC Post #227898

Processor Information:

Vendor:  GenuineIntel
Speed: 3187 Mhz
1 logical processor
1 physical processor
HyperThreading:  Unsupported
RDTSC:  Supported
CMOV:  Supported
FCMOV:  Supported
SSE:  Supported
SSE2:  Supported
3DNOW:  Unsupported

Network Information:

Network Speed:  DSL &gt; 256k
IP Address:  192.168.1.XXX

Windows Version:

Windows XP (32 bit)
NTFS:  Supported

Video Card:

Driver:  VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
DirectX Driver Name:  vtdisp.dll
Driver Version:  6.14.10.0275-16.94.44.44
DirectX Driver Version:  6.14.10.275
Driver Date: 27 Dec 2005
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
VendorID:  0x1106
DeviceID:  0x3344
Number of Monitors:  1
Number of Video Cards:  1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution:  800 x 600
Desktop Resolution: 800 x 600
Primary Display Size: 12.60" x 9.45"  (15.75" diag)
                                        32.0cm x 24.0cm  (40.0cm diag)
Primary Display Type Not Detected
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary AGP GART Not Detected
Primary VRAM: 64 MB
Primary Monitor Vendor Not Detected
Primary Monitor Model Not Detected
Supported MSAA Modes Not Detected

Game Display Settings

Half-Life 2 Resolution:  640 x 480  (Windowed)
Half-Life 2 MSAA Disabled
HL2DM Resolution:  640 x 480  (Windowed)
HL2DM MSAA Level:  1x
Counter-Strike: Source Resolution:  640 x 480  (Windowed)
Counter-Strike: Source MSAA Disabled

Sound card:

Audio device: Realtek AC97 Audio

Memory:

RAM:  1214 Mb

Miscellaneous:

UI Language:  English
Microphone:  Yes, I have a microphone.
Media Type:  DVD
Total Hard Disk Space Available:  74120 Mb
Largest Free Hard Disk Block:  40290 Mb

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srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 05:21:47 UTC Post #227900

@Penguinboy: That's what I'm trying to do, take this one step at a time.

@Ghetto: That information tells me nothing. I need to know what model your motherboard is, but you can't tell that by looking at anything in Windows. Your best bet is to just open your computer up, How hard is it? Take two or three screws off and look at the name on the motherboard. Hell, you don't even need to turn it off first if it's accessible (disregard all safety warnings in manuals, and just don't poke around inside.)

As for what video card you get, I think the 7600 GS sounds good too. I highly recommend you don't invest much money in this computer, because it's pretty dated.

srry

Penguinboy

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 05:31:07 UTC Post #227905

motherboard model is irrelavent. the PSU will be ATX.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 05:35:58 UTC Post #227906

That's not always true Penguinboy, but you're probably right in this case.

Just make sure the power supply you get has 20+4 motherboard pins and not 24 pins, because the 20+4 configuration will fit anything, but 24 won't.

srry

Penguinboy

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 05:37:14 UTC Post #227908

any modern PSU is 20+4.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 05:41:46 UTC Post #227910

That's not true, you can buy a ton of 20 and 24 pin fixed connector PSUs on Newegg right now.

srry

Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 05:51:36 UTC Post #227911

i have to remove all of my usb cacbels all the rest of them then get the pc out of the obotm of my desk. then i need to get a screwdriver and start screwing... when i check the pc i have to put all of those things again. Iv doen it over 10 times and i am geting mad

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Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 06:19:02 UTC Post #227913

Got no idea what i had to take a pic but i think it was the 'electricity box'

just curious,
What are these for:

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Penguinboy

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 06:24:56 UTC Post #227914

too fuzzy

anyway, those white slots are PCI (NOT PCI-express) slots. they are used for expansions to your PC like, extra USB ports or ethernet. they arent used much nowadays, because tons of this kinda stuff is built in, but you'll see them around sometimes.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 06:30:42 UTC Post #227915

Okay. so what should i buy?

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srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 07:58:49 UTC Post #227917

Good god, will you stop calling it an "electricity box"? It's a power supply! There is no other name for it!

... and yeah, like Penguinboy said, you can't see shit from those pictures. Not that it matters.

What should you buy? Well, first look for a decent power supply from a well known manufacturer like Rosewill or Silverstone (just examples), and show it to us. I don't know what you have available to you.

srry

Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 08:23:27 UTC Post #227920

600W for 20pounds (35dollars maybe) any good?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Colors-600W-Silent-Power-Supply/dp/B000KGYMGW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183897344&sr=8-3

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srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 09:16:34 UTC Post #227922

I've never heard of this "Colors" before... it sounds like an off-brand, in which case I wouldn't trust it. I wouldn't trust anything that gives you that much power for that price. you only really need 480-500 watts, so look in that range.

Power supplies aren't like hard drives or RAM in that prices have fallen dramatically over the years and they've become a lot more powerful. It's kind of a stagnant technology as far as I know.

By the way, do you have any other online UK store that I could search around on? Amazon.co.uk has a spectacularly underwhelming selection of computer components, it would seem.

srry

Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 10:09:38 UTC Post #227926

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/

http://www.advancetec.co.uk/

http://www.sapphiretech.com/uk/products/wheretobuylist.php

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Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 12:43:14 UTC Post #227943

Uh...

Witch one is better?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Inno3D-GeForce-7600GS-256MB-Graphics/dp/tech-data/B000HEYTYC/ref=de_a_smtd/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&qid=1183884459&sr=8-1

Or

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Inno3D-GeForce-7600GS-256MB-Graphics/dp/B000HEYTYC/ref=pd_sbs_ce_1_img/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&qid=1183913076&sr=1-3

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srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 17:05:12 UTC Post #227966

Which*

Those video cards are the same thing.

The best power supply I can find for the money at those places is this one. It's apparently really good, and it's one of the cheaper 500 watt ones... but damn, prices are high in the UK for those things.

srry

Luke

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 18:13:24 UTC Post #227976

I got an off brand PSU and it works fine. 450 watt with 22 amps on the +12v rail. Cost me 35 bucks, nothing wrong about it.

LukeLuke

Saribous

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 23:05:08 UTC Post #228001

Yeah, not all off brand electricity bo...err.. I mean PSU's, are bad. But IF you happened to get a faulty one that fried your mobo, you wouldn't be very happy.

When it comes to PSU's, I take no chances and go with a well known brand. Just in case.

Saribous

srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 23:51:31 UTC Post #228002

Plus, if you get a good one, it could last you well into your into your next computer. That's one less purchase down the road.

And yeah, if you get a faulty one it could possibly fry your motherboard and everything else attached to it (RAM, video card, CPU, etc.)

Edit: Looks like I found a good 7600 GS for you. It's got 512 MB of memory, and judging from a review I read of it, it should garner 30 FPS average in Oblivion at 1024x768 resolution. Half-Life 2 played fine on a crappy old Radeon 9600 for me, so you should be able to max most of the settings with this.

srry

Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 02:02:46 UTC Post #228004

Thanks

i better start saving now... uh... i think 500W wont be enough for me! because at the mo i have a 200W one, and its like on PURE pressure. and if i buy this 7600GS with 512mb of memory it will probably take about 350W so i the PSU wont take it. im looking for a 600 - 650 psu.

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Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 02:14:41 UTC Post #228005

Will this thing fry my pc? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Colors-600W-Silent-Power-Supply/dp/B000KGYMGW/ref=pd_sbs_ce_2/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&qid=1183961113&sr=1-1

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Strider

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 02:15:13 UTC Post #228006

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=23650

That's mine. Expensive, but damn reliable.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 02:16:36 UTC Post #228007

5 year warranty w00t... any ways, how much does it cost?

EDIT: 0h nvm thats a buy in us/Canada

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srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 02:38:56 UTC Post #228008

What's wrong with the power supply I showed you before, Ghetto? Too good for you? It's reliable as hell, and overclockers apparently use them a lot.

Will this thing fry my pc?

What kind of question is that? I can't tell you if it's going to malfunction or not, but cheesy power supplies usually die out in a year or less. I couldn't guess whether it would take all your hardware with it.

All I'm doing here is giving you a stable choice. If you're determined to keep linking to these piles of junk that look like they were assembled in a sweatshop, then go ahead and buy one, but it's not going to get my recommendation. Then again, if you don't plan on keeping your current computer for very much longer, it might be okay. I'm just assuming you want this to last you for a while.

srry

Penguinboy

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 03:02:01 UTC Post #228010

if i buy this 7600GS with 512mb of memory it will probably take about 350W so i the PSU wont take it. im looking for a 600 - 650 psu.

stop being an idiot. a 500W PSU is sufficient for a 7600GS. stop assuming things about stuff you know nothing about. it makes you look even more stupid.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

srry

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 03:59:08 UTC Post #228017

Yeah Ghetto, no offense, but you should really stop acting like you know this stuff, because in all honesty it doesn't seem like you know squat about computer hardware or have any technical expertise whatsoever. Where do you get ideas like this?

Guess what? I have a factory overclocked PCI-e 7600 GT, and a 480 watt power supply. that's plenty of power for it, and I know this not because I guesstimated some obscene amount of power I thought it might use, but I actually read the requirements for it. You should start doing that, because at this point we're telling you everything.

Figure some stuff out for yourself. [/end rant]

srry

Penguinboy

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 04:25:45 UTC Post #228027

[rant]i concur[/rant]

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Skals

Posted 17 years ago2007-07-09 14:29:43 UTC Post #228124

okay... then ill buy this http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/info%5f06040743%2ehtml

and this
http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/info%5f140806%2ehtml

thats 120 pounds together