The Core Created 7 years ago2012-08-14 00:16:23 UTC by Archie Archie

Created 7 years ago2012-08-14 00:16:23 UTC by Archie Archie

Posted 6 years ago2013-12-02 15:20:24 UTC Post #316949
VOTED! :D

Now, the only question is for me to get the needed stuff... =-=
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-02 16:12:35 UTC Post #316950
Voted.

RIFLNEAT!
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-02 21:46:50 UTC Post #316952
.detoV
Dimbeak DimbeakRotten Bastard
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-02 22:34:01 UTC Post #316953
Now, the only question is for me to get the needed stuff... =-=
Wow... I just have NO idea what you're trying to say...

Thanks for the vote though. :D
UrbaNebula UrbaNebulaGoldSourcerer
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-02 23:47:47 UTC Post #316954
Yep! Voted for The Core. ;)

Good luck guys! :D
Alberto309 Alberto309weapon_spaghetti
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 03:35:36 UTC Post #316959
I will vote in your general direction.
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Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 11:21:35 UTC Post #316961
Y'all are mighty generous <3
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 11:34:48 UTC Post #316962
Don't I need Half Life to play this? I don't have it, but I'm not gonna discuss any pirating topics, but we all know there's a pirate here somewhere.
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 11:57:27 UTC Post #316963
:zomg:

How can you not have Half-Life? It practically comes free in cereal boxes it's so cheap. Add me on Steam, I'll gift it to you, you crazy S.O.B.

Unrelated:

Got something pretty neat in the works:
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Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 13:04:04 UTC Post #316964
You're not having my vote! Muahahah

I voted.
Moaby MoabyMk. III
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 16:07:07 UTC Post #316965
Me added Archie.
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 19:46:53 UTC Post #316966
Voted.
Also, on the topic of games in cereal boxes, I think we have about 50 copies of Age of Empires around the house somewhere.
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TJB TJBaka Alabastor_Twob
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 21:07:22 UTC Post #316967
Ooh. Never knew about that. Age of Empires was awesome. There were lions and crocodiles. And chariots. Chariots chariots chariots. Cave Johnson here.
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-03 21:52:56 UTC Post #316968
Voted.
Striker StrikerI seriously doubt myself
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-04 01:30:36 UTC Post #316969
Bitch please...
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Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-04 04:04:11 UTC Post #316971
Just 50 free hours?
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-04 04:04:49 UTC Post #316972
The AOL CD's always made the best frisbees and microwave experiments.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-04 04:10:53 UTC Post #316973
50 hours would last me... like... 3 days.
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-05 12:28:34 UTC Post #316990
Chex Quest looks like it could have been a sweet game. I'm thinking it might have been like commander keen.

Anyone feeling a Source reboot of Chex Quest?
Starring Credit-Card-Taser man and Elephant Goos
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-05 12:35:26 UTC Post #316991
Elephant Goose?
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UrbaNebula UrbaNebulaGoldSourcerer
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-05 19:52:30 UTC Post #316997
Elephant Goo.
Plural.
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Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-05 22:35:21 UTC Post #316998
This thread has an incredible talent for skewing wildly off-topic at least once per page. I approve wholeheartedly.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-06 00:51:38 UTC Post #317002
Omg... little did i know this ran on the doom engine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSjD8855qo0
This is totally possible.
/end hijack
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-06 02:12:07 UTC Post #317003
IT HAS A RAPID ZORCHER. What more could you ask for.

I bet The Core doesn't.
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-06 03:10:57 UTC Post #317004
@Tetsuo: The developers did a terrible job of modding their game. So much, in fact, that you can start playing the original doom with Chex Quest items and weapons, and conquer the Shores of Hell with them. Sort of similar to Half Life in a way. However, this game was free in Chex boxes, so you got free Doom.
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-07 20:16:43 UTC Post #317014
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2 Monitors are not enough monitors.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-07 20:23:20 UTC Post #317015
I see 60FPS everywhere. Are you going to turn that into 25 or 29.97 FPS? Or leave it as it is?

Also, beauty shots?
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-07 20:29:19 UTC Post #317016
hahaha. 29.97? What do I look like to you, some sort of dribbling NTSC idiot? It'll be exported 25FPS. Recorded at 60 because you notice stuttering in games running lower than that.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-07 20:34:25 UTC Post #317017
Who knows. Original is at 60 after all.
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-07 21:54:26 UTC Post #317018
If you're going to apply motion blur, do it correctly with the proper tools. Post-applied MB looks cool but isn't as accurate as rendering out at the correct framerate and downsampling accordingly.

See: SrcDemo

Not trying to be a hardass, just my endless pursuit of doing it better speaking for me.
Crollo CrolloTrollo
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-07 22:03:25 UTC Post #317019
wat? No motion blur, this is goldsource.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-07 22:14:03 UTC Post #317020
Hmm I'm confused then--Why would you record at a higher framerate to avoid 'stutter', and then downsample it to a lower framerate and not call it motion blur?
The 'stutter' from a low framerate is the lack of motion blur.

I'm simply saying that if you're going to apply motion blur you should do it properly which takes little effort.
Crollo CrolloTrollo
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-07 22:24:17 UTC Post #317021
Frame blending is not the same as motion blur
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-08 01:43:30 UTC Post #317022
It's the exact same thing--Creating the illusion of motion by blending multiple frames together. Whether it be ghosting, interlacing or blurring.

But I don't think this is worth a full page discussion. Just a constructive suggestion, that's all.

And the project is looking great, by the way. Hard to find commitment like that nowadays. :)
Crollo CrolloTrollo
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-09 19:37:54 UTC Post #317045
Hey Archie, why are you using After Effects instead of Vegas Pro?
I always use Vegas Pro for my videos. Is After Effect somehow better?
Oh, I just create common videos. I'm not really an "expert" video editor (not at all).
Alberto309 Alberto309weapon_spaghetti
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-09 21:02:13 UTC Post #317048
It's a completely different thing and it does a lot more.
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-09 21:08:56 UTC Post #317049
Imagine After Effects as the Photoshop of video editing. Or not... but you get the point.
Striker StrikerI seriously doubt myself
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-09 22:00:07 UTC Post #317050
It's a pretty good analogy, Striker. I tend to explain After Effects as 'Photoshop at 25FPS'.

Alberto, I learned how to cut on Vegas, and it's a fantastic consumer tool for that, but now that it's my job I literally wouldn't get employed if I still used it. Pro post-production is 90% AVID, and until recently the other 10% was Final Cut Pro spits which has thankfully been replaced with Premiere Pro now that Apple have bailed out of the pro market to concentrate on Youtubers.

Premiere and Avid are simply at a whole other level when compared to Vegas, but it's quite hard to explain the difference without physically showing you. The short story is that Vegas tried to completely avoid in/out cutting and use a totally different method which works really well to an extent for short-form projects, but it'd be practically impossible to cut a proper 30m programme on it. Tens of hours of rushes with Vegas' basic media management and lack of proper timecode interaction would be so much hassle it'd drive you insane.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-09 23:33:31 UTC Post #317056
So with after effects, how long would it take you to make someones head explode?
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-09 23:49:47 UTC Post #317057
:P
Would depend entirely on how it was shot. If there was a clean background plate, then like 20 mins. If it required a background rebuild then potentially hours depending on complexity and duration.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-10 02:16:37 UTC Post #317059
Greenscreen
Aka
Can i see your head blow up
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-10 13:57:27 UTC Post #317066
Oh, ok, got it. Thanks Archie.

I always render my videos at 60 fps at 720p with Vegas, knowing that YouTube doesn't go over 30 fps, but they seems to be much more fluid even if watched at 30 fps. Having also a bad computer, it tooks an hour to render an 8 minutes video at 60 fps at 720p. And that's annoying. <.<
Now, Archie, in terms of quality (final product) and render times: do you suggest me to learn to use After Effects instead of Vegas Pro? Is it better in terms of video quality?
I know I can find these answers by simply do a Google search, but I prefer a fresh opinion by a known person.

Thank you in advance. :)
Alberto309 Alberto309weapon_spaghetti
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-10 14:43:34 UTC Post #317067
After Effects is not NLE software like Vegas, Final Cut, Avid and Premiere. It's visual effects software and cannot be compared to Vegas.

If you mean Premiere, which is closely tied to After Effects (both being part of the Adobe Creative Suite) then yes, Premiere has far more export options than Vegas. For Youtube, you want to export a h.264 file in an MP4 wrapper at around 10Mb/s for 1080p. For 720p, you'd be fine with 6Mb/s. For comparison, a Blu-Ray disc is 15Mb/s and a broadcast master copy is around 50Mb/s.

The reason the video seems more fluid rendered at 60FPS when viewed online is because Youtube uses a smarter frame blending algorithm while processing uploaded videos than Vegas does whilst rendering them.
Adobe's frame blending, particularly in the new CC versions of AE and Premiere is freakishly good.

If you think you want to take your editing to the next level, then I'd definitely recommend Premiere (CS 5.5 or higher, it's shit in earlier versions) over the others. Final Cut is simply awful and AVID is incredibly old-school in its methods. Premiere is still going to be a big leap up the complexity curve from Vegas, but it's much easier than Avid, despite Avid still being industry-standard.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-10 17:53:30 UTC Post #317069
So with after effects, how long would it take you to make someones head explode?
Not long. This video shows many different things.
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-10 21:08:44 UTC Post #317071
But none of those things is someone's head exploding.
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-11 13:51:47 UTC Post #317075
Well, first of all, a massive thank you to everyone who voted for us. We have made it into the top 100 for the second year running! Face sexings will be administered in the next few days.

Now, we need to ask you to do it again... click the big green button again and this will take you to a new page and scroll to where you need to be to vote. That's all we're asking. 3 clicks in total.

Link, Vote button, VOTE button.

Show the love!
UrbaNebula UrbaNebulaGoldSourcerer
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-11 16:15:00 UTC Post #317076
Voted. If I have to keep clicking these buttons for you, I'm going to start needing to be paid! ;)
Moaby MoabyMk. III
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-11 17:04:54 UTC Post #317077
Well we DID offer sex in the face.
UrbaNebula UrbaNebulaGoldSourcerer
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-11 20:27:42 UTC Post #317078
THE WH :nuke: RE
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 6 years ago2013-12-11 23:35:02 UTC Post #317080
while voting for the core, I incidentally noticed that Black Mesa has decided to go retail (without finishing Xen)
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