Ammo wont appear Created 4 months ago2023-12-24 22:07:36 UTC by urga urga

Created 4 months ago2023-12-24 22:07:36 UTC by urga urga

Posted 4 months ago2023-12-24 22:07:37 UTC Post #348351
I'm still incredibly new to mapping so maybe I'm missing something obvious but when I place ammo on my map, it never appears if it isn't placed on the floor, and only 25-50% of what I do place on the floor actually appears. If I place it on a shelf, it will only appear on the floor. Does anyone know why I seem to be unable to place ammo around my map?

I've tried changing the shelf from func_detail to func_wall. I've tried grouping the ammo to the shelf I'm placing it on. I've tried elevating it from the surface so it isn't actually touching anything. I'm not sure why it's not appearing.

Screenshots:
https://imgur.com/a/Nybozzm
https://imgur.com/a/CYNhdkn
https://imgur.com/a/Fileow8
Posted 4 months ago2023-12-24 22:39:03 UTC Post #348353
The ammo pickups are far too close to one another or the world geometry. Before JACK/Hammer would show models in the 2D/3D views, all we had were 32x32 unit bounding boxes. The ammo_357 entity actually takes up about this much room:
User posted image
You need to spread them out a little more. As for the one behind the picture, you might need to make the func_breakable picture just spawn 357 ammo on breaking.

Also, unrelated, but those shelves are the wrong way round. The cross frame should be against the wall :P
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 4 months ago2023-12-24 22:46:08 UTC Post #348354
Thank you! Would it be impossible to place ammo on a shelf due to the fact it'd be very close to world geometry? Interestingly enough I just tried the "spawn on break" for the picture and it spawns the ammo and slowly sinks into the shelf never to be seen again.

Also lol I never even noticed the shelves were backwards, good catch
Posted 4 months ago2023-12-25 00:32:55 UTC Post #348357
Thank you! Would it be impossible to place ammo on a shelf due to the fact it'd be very close to world geometry?
I'm not really sure how you would handle placing it on a shelf like that. It's not something you see all that often in GoldSRC. I was trying to remember if I ever managed to get it working but it seems I just stuck things on the top shelf. Haha
User posted image
Interestingly enough I just tried the "spawn on break" for the picture and it spawns the ammo and slowly sinks into the shelf never to be seen again.
You will notice that this happens often in the official games as well. It's a variation of the same issue. The item spawns inside the geometry and slowly falls through it unless the player is able to grab it before it vanishes.
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 4 months ago2023-12-25 01:37:03 UTC Post #348358
Well thank you, I appreciate the help and the visual examples!
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