What the hell is the world coming to?
Anyone watched the news? I just woke up switchen on to msn and then every1 at the 1 time told me.
i mean come on
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Created 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:13:38 UTC by
The Killer
Created 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:13:38 UTC by
The Killer
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:13:38 UTC
Post #119350
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:17:50 UTC
Post #119352
Yeah, we're getting loads of news here too.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:24:17 UTC
Post #119353
Finnish TV channels don't seem to care. They're just showing their usual SMS game shows instead. 
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:33:01 UTC
Post #119354
It's obviously Tony Blair using scare tactics to control people. [/conspiracy]
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:44:25 UTC
Post #119355
Estimated casualties of 2, last time I checked. It's nothing.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:44:34 UTC
Post #119356
Heh, it's funny to see how EU and UK people are starting the "attack against freedom and democracy" bullshit all over again.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:48:26 UTC
Post #119357
I smell a conspiracy in this!
It's all 'bout the olympics. French did it.
It's all 'bout the olympics. French did it.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:49:47 UTC
Post #119358
I wouldn't care if they made those dam games in Paris... Or Moscow... Or NY... Or any other city... Whats teh difference if you won't take place in them? :
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:50:20 UTC
Post #119359
Ahhhh but you see ZL only 2 casualty's
How many will it be next time if it happens again?
How many will it be next time if it happens again?
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 07:55:00 UTC
Post #119360
At approximately 12:10 July 7, 2005, the BBC News reported that a website known to be operated by associates of Al Qaeda has been located with a 200 word statement claiming responsibility for the attacks.
Arab sources monitoring terrorist networks have told BBC News that it is highly likely to be an Al Qaeda attack. Unconfirmed reports indicate that an islamist website has carried a statement by a European group linked to Al-Qaeda which claims responsibility for the attacks.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 08:05:29 UTC
Post #119363
German Magazine Der Spiegel has reported that a group named 'Secret Organisation - al-Qaeda in Europe' has posted a claim of responsibility on their website. This is a response due to the British involvement in the Iraq and Afghanistan.Wikipedia entry.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 08:16:48 UTC
Post #119368
It's actually over 50 now. They haven't rescued people trapped underground.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 08:24:55 UTC
Post #119371
This G8 thing could be the NWO Jahzel is always on about... seeems very likely.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 08:26:24 UTC
Post #119372
Hell yeah.
Next: ID cards, EU constitution.
Next: ID cards, EU constitution.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 08:40:13 UTC
Post #119374
I wouldn't care if they made those dam games in Paris... Or Moscow... Or NY... Or any other city... Whats teh difference if you won't take place in them?Ah but it is a big deal, it will bring tourists with plenty of money, we are going to earn lots of money meaning better education, hospitals...
Heck my father was offered a school trip to some place that can you can only get to by driving through London...
He luckily refused
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 08:41:20 UTC
Post #119377
The G8 wont turn out with any good news
sure they willcome out and say we have dropped 40 billion pounds in debt but then what about the other 260 billion they have to pay?
they will come out and say
'Bob geldof and bonno etc.... have touched us and given a chanc for africa'
theyle cover it all up and with the fights in Edinburgh and Bombs in london i think they will sway off into tangents OFF of the subject of africa.
sure they willcome out and say we have dropped 40 billion pounds in debt but then what about the other 260 billion they have to pay?
they will come out and say
'Bob geldof and bonno etc.... have touched us and given a chanc for africa'
theyle cover it all up and with the fights in Edinburgh and Bombs in london i think they will sway off into tangents OFF of the subject of africa.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 08:47:59 UTC
Post #119383
Stasi London: Fearmongering reaches new heights in England - SPECIAL REPORT
Steve Watson | 30th March 2004
It seems that London is gearing up for a major terrorist attack very soon. The above 27 minute press conference from last week, involving the Mayor Ken Livingstone, and the Chief of Police Sir John Stevens, highlights the level of fear London is currently being subjected to.
It has now simply been accepted that a major attack will take place, and that there is little hope of avoiding it. Yet Livingstone and Stevens take pain to assure everyone that London is "the safest city in the world" and that we should simply accept that it is soon to be attacked and just get on with things.
There is very sophisticated doublespeak going on here. Whilst being told we cannot and should not worry over such an attack occurring, we are also told that IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. The result is an even greater yet supressed fear among the entire population of the city.
Add to this the hideous nature of the "Life Savers" anti-terrorist campaign, nothing short of a Stasi-type operation more akin with Soviet Russia, and the result is a climate of fear, suspicion and mis-trust amongst all. Everyone, and anyone is a suspect and we must all be alert and prepared because we are all about to be attacked.
More
BREAKING: Scotland Yard says it got a warning before the attack and told Israel.
Fox News has carried a report from AP saying that Scotland Yard had prior knowledge. Israeli News is reporting that "The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit."
Full article here.
The warning contradicts the fact that the original explanation of a power surge went out for an hour or more. They knew it was an attack but put out a false explanation. Plus why did Netanyahu get a warning and the victims didn't?
More to follow...
GO TO PRISONPLANET.COM
This very important stuff.
Steve Watson | 30th March 2004
It seems that London is gearing up for a major terrorist attack very soon. The above 27 minute press conference from last week, involving the Mayor Ken Livingstone, and the Chief of Police Sir John Stevens, highlights the level of fear London is currently being subjected to.
It has now simply been accepted that a major attack will take place, and that there is little hope of avoiding it. Yet Livingstone and Stevens take pain to assure everyone that London is "the safest city in the world" and that we should simply accept that it is soon to be attacked and just get on with things.
There is very sophisticated doublespeak going on here. Whilst being told we cannot and should not worry over such an attack occurring, we are also told that IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. The result is an even greater yet supressed fear among the entire population of the city.
Add to this the hideous nature of the "Life Savers" anti-terrorist campaign, nothing short of a Stasi-type operation more akin with Soviet Russia, and the result is a climate of fear, suspicion and mis-trust amongst all. Everyone, and anyone is a suspect and we must all be alert and prepared because we are all about to be attacked.
More
BREAKING: Scotland Yard says it got a warning before the attack and told Israel.
Fox News has carried a report from AP saying that Scotland Yard had prior knowledge. Israeli News is reporting that "The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit."
Full article here.
The warning contradicts the fact that the original explanation of a power surge went out for an hour or more. They knew it was an attack but put out a false explanation. Plus why did Netanyahu get a warning and the victims didn't?
More to follow...
Comment: This has MI5 written all over it. Just watch that national ID card legislation sail through. Only 15% of the country supported the government after the last election, this will ensure total fealty to a smarmy Blair and whatever he wants to do. The police state measures they'll get out of this will be overlayed onto all forms of transport. In fact, you won't be able to travel without the ID card. Although MI5 operations are normally more sophisticated than things like 9/11, in that the evidence linking it to the government is more carefully covered, just watch for the evidence of inside involvement to trickle out. MI5 have been caught involved in IRA bomings multiple times over.More
This website predicted they'd attack the underground. Reports surfaced last year that the tube would be occasionally closed, providing the perfect opportunity for bombs to be placed, as happened with the WTC.
GO TO PRISONPLANET.COM
This very important stuff.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 09:10:34 UTC
Post #119388
Oh, Prisonplanet, the most reliable source in the world
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 09:18:01 UTC
Post #119389
Oh mainstream media, the most reliable source of information in the world 
Dajuppi, the point is, of course, fearmongering and propaganda is being used to condition the population into excepting a police state crackdown.
ID Card legislation will inevitably pass without much challenge. To travel, we will all be told that we have to have ID Cards, and the general jist will be that if you dont agree with ID cards then you are a supporter of terrorism.
What we are seeing here is the next wave of total police state. First America was pyschologically attacked, and now the capitol of Britain.
People will be pleading the Government to issue more homeland security police powers.
The first article I posted was written on March 30th 2004!
Dajuppi, the point is, of course, fearmongering and propaganda is being used to condition the population into excepting a police state crackdown.
ID Card legislation will inevitably pass without much challenge. To travel, we will all be told that we have to have ID Cards, and the general jist will be that if you dont agree with ID cards then you are a supporter of terrorism.
What we are seeing here is the next wave of total police state. First America was pyschologically attacked, and now the capitol of Britain.
People will be pleading the Government to issue more homeland security police powers.
The first article I posted was written on March 30th 2004!
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 09:26:32 UTC
Post #119390
Prisonplanet is a pretty reliable source, if a little biased to conspiracy theories.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 09:35:02 UTC
Post #119391
The army were on the ground by 11:20am, the civil contingencies police state measures are in action.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 09:36:58 UTC
Post #119392
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 09:53:23 UTC
Post #119393
Bush: "You have to keep repeating things to catapult the propaganda."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2005/260505newbushism.htm
//// Listen to the audio clip of Bush's latest Freudian slip.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Joseph Goebbels, Hiter's Nazi Propaganda Minister.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2005/260505newbushism.htm
//// Listen to the audio clip of Bush's latest Freudian slip.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Joseph Goebbels, Hiter's Nazi Propaganda Minister.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 10:19:43 UTC
Post #119398
[quote]"The world is too terrible a place to live in, not because of the bad things that happen, but because of the good people who stand by and do nothing."
- Albert Einstein[/quote]
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
-Margaret Mead
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 10:23:40 UTC
Post #119399
Shame about that, i was in a science lesson when the teacher barges in and turn on the tv. And we all end up watching a live tv report. Some of the shit that happened down there is crazy. Shame really because tommorrow we were going on a school trip to thorpe park but its perspone until tuesday two weeks from now
50 people? Ouch. Im watching the news now, its exactly the same as the madrid bomb. They say its a political message being sent by terrorist groups. But for all we know. It could just be the theory Jazhel gave us on another board. arranged by blair to give him a reason to attack
50 people? Ouch. Im watching the news now, its exactly the same as the madrid bomb. They say its a political message being sent by terrorist groups. But for all we know. It could just be the theory Jazhel gave us on another board. arranged by blair to give him a reason to attack
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 10:34:54 UTC
Post #119403
Well unfortunately, this event echoes all other Government-sponsered terror attacks. The Government (more specifically the Globalist Elite) are using the threat of terrorism to scare the public into submitting to a totalitarist police state. Just like Hitler did after the Reischstag fire, just like Nero after Rome, throughout history dictators have use 'terror attacks' to gain more control.
People must be warned about this because we are under psychological attack. People will be pleading for their Government to issue ID Cards and mass surveillance technology to 'keep us safe'. Big Brother is shaking hands with Joe Public.
People must be warned about this because we are under psychological attack. People will be pleading for their Government to issue ID Cards and mass surveillance technology to 'keep us safe'. Big Brother is shaking hands with Joe Public.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 10:57:30 UTC
Post #119414
I smell a conspiracy in this!That strangely enough makes sense, french were crying over not getting the olympics. And the underground was attacked. Our worse area for the olympic bid, probably trying to make it worse. And its not long after the olympic boards decision
It's all 'bout the olympics. French did it.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 11:00:34 UTC
Post #119417
No, hehe, I dont think the French have anything to do with it at all.
But one thing IS for certain. MI5 is written all over his incident.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_mi5terror.html
But one thing IS for certain. MI5 is written all over his incident.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_mi5terror.html
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 11:03:21 UTC
Post #119420
The death count is up to 30. My dad is up there and says it absoulute chaos.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 11:08:11 UTC
Post #119422
What happened to London?
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 11:10:33 UTC
Post #119423
on MSN my friends are saying its 33 now. WCD london has been attacked by ''terrorists'' 7 bombs went off, most in the underground. Some in buses. Nasty attack, tons injured and some dead 
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 11:12:12 UTC
Post #119424
I strongly doubt this has anything to do with a government-sponsored terror attack. The city has just been chosen for the 2012 olympics and it sounds stupid to deliver this kind of blow right now. It does not do the british government or the opposing political party any good...
This is just the realisation of terrorist threats.
By the way, what's with the ID Cards and mass surveillance? Wouldnt you feel better if, for example, you are in a city bus and have the confidence that everyone has been quickly and effectively identified before entering? The way things are right now, the person next to you could blow himself up, or there could be explosives any backpack of a train, regardless of where you are: Jerusalem, Istambul, Baghdad, Moscow, Madrid, London...
This is just the realisation of terrorist threats.
By the way, what's with the ID Cards and mass surveillance? Wouldnt you feel better if, for example, you are in a city bus and have the confidence that everyone has been quickly and effectively identified before entering? The way things are right now, the person next to you could blow himself up, or there could be explosives any backpack of a train, regardless of where you are: Jerusalem, Istambul, Baghdad, Moscow, Madrid, London...
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 11:13:38 UTC
Post #119425
Stupid really, just stupid
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 12:17:52 UTC
Post #119435
I strongly doubt this has anything to do with a government-sponsored terror attack. The city has just been chosen for the 2012 olympics and it sounds stupid to deliver this kind of blow right now. It does not do the british government or the opposing political party any good...It's the beginning of a police-state as Jahzel stated above. Simply controling the masses using fear as a main tool.
Wouldnt you feel better if, for example, you are in a city bus and have the confidence that everyone has been quickly and effectively identified before entering?There'll be more overtime, people - "against freedom" .. "terrorists" - will be monitored and the privacy of todays everyday will be dematerialized.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 12:41:16 UTC
Post #119439
The 9-11 attacks are very different from what we see today. Those could have been sponsored, but It has little to do with what we saw today.
The London bombings are closer to the kind of attacks that have been taking place in Israel for years and happen in Iraq basically every day.
Wait, now you are going to tell me that, for example, those suicide kids that blow themselves up are actually part of Bush's secret agenda??
There is a very big mistake that people are making (maybe even the writers of these conspiracy sites). Terrorism has existed long before 9-11 happened, so you cant possibly pretend that these attacks are taking place because some kind of World domination scheme.
I insist on my point of view. I'd be more worried about bombs going off around me (it could have happened since I live in Madrid) than by having to use a dumb ID card and Big Brother knowing if I had macarroni or spaguetti for lunch.
The London bombings are closer to the kind of attacks that have been taking place in Israel for years and happen in Iraq basically every day.
Wait, now you are going to tell me that, for example, those suicide kids that blow themselves up are actually part of Bush's secret agenda??
There is a very big mistake that people are making (maybe even the writers of these conspiracy sites). Terrorism has existed long before 9-11 happened, so you cant possibly pretend that these attacks are taking place because some kind of World domination scheme.
I insist on my point of view. I'd be more worried about bombs going off around me (it could have happened since I live in Madrid) than by having to use a dumb ID card and Big Brother knowing if I had macarroni or spaguetti for lunch.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 13:32:51 UTC
Post #119441
Terrorism is already cnetury's old, probably older.
Guy fawkes is one example.
And offcourse, we all knew this would happend, new york, madrid, now london. No surprise to me.
Guy fawkes is one example.
And offcourse, we all knew this would happend, new york, madrid, now london. No surprise to me.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 13:42:07 UTC
Post #119443
Terrorism has also always been used by dictators to gain more control. It's nothing new, ofcourse. I keep having to repeat myself constantly.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 13:59:20 UTC
Post #119450
What happened to London?^
Statement of the year!
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 15:30:00 UTC
Post #119469
Onslaught: American are you? Conservative, I might suggest?
Terrorism is indeed no new thing, and indeed, all terrorism isn't "done" by governments. But I strongly believe governments use it as a tool to control people.
Terrorism is indeed no new thing, and indeed, all terrorism isn't "done" by governments. But I strongly believe governments use it as a tool to control people.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 15:33:47 UTC
Post #119471
London got attacked by terrorists?! Them Iraqies are freakin' everywhere man, first the US now Great Britain.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:14:26 UTC
Post #119482
And madrid. Oh wait, that was baskian seperatists, nevermind.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:16:56 UTC
Post #119485
Estimated casualties of 2, last time I checked. It's nothing.Ye....... 700 casualtys 38 deaths and mabey even more deaths.....
every1 agree its nothing ?
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:20:28 UTC
Post #119490
Casualties = Deaths, last time I checked (?). Injuries is the term you're looking for.
It's not much. I mean, thousands die of starvation each day. Hundreds in human attacks every day.
It's not much. I mean, thousands die of starvation each day. Hundreds in human attacks every day.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:21:25 UTC
Post #119492
That was only after rescue crews finally got to where the train accidents were. On ITV they've done entire day broadcasts on it as far as i know
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:24:09 UTC
Post #119493
Casualties = Deaths, last time I checked (?). Injuries is the term you're looking for.ahhh i see
It's not much. I mean, thousands die of starvation each day. Hundreds in human attacks every day.
but i mean i cat remember anything in the UK this big happening before........
you cant just say oh well only this amount died so it doesnt matter
of course, i am not saying lets forget the hundreds of people dying of starvation but you cant forget one of them for the other.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:28:56 UTC
Post #119497
And madrid. Oh wait, that was baskian seperatists, nevermind.Er.. The bombings on March 2004 were executed by Al Qaeda.
Baskian terrorists have been making terrorist attacks on the capital (and elswhere) for decades but there havent been any mortal victims for over 2 years.
The adjetive of "separatist" is often used incorrectly regarding ETA in international press. "terrorist" is the correct word since their main goal is to kill and provoque terror, not making a separate homeland.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:29:13 UTC
Post #119498
Theres a difference between a murder, and a bombing. A bombing on any level is serious. Becuase its
-Organised
-Severe failure in security (unless organised by government)
-Dangerous risks or possible chemical/biological attacks
A murder is different
-Its done by a single person. Usually on a single target
-Today police will end up catching them
-Its not everyday some guys decides he'll blow up some 38 people eh?
Although there are lots of bombings, its still a big thing. Isreal gets bombed 24-7. Because people foolishly argue over religious groups in that country. A single bus gets blown up but the whole world knows about it, an odd 5-10 people die. While a murder is just usually a single person, Murders can become big but once again its not everyday someone decides to start a mass-murder spree (despite how many of us wish we could)
But on death count ZL, you are right, its pretty meagor.
-Organised
-Severe failure in security (unless organised by government)
-Dangerous risks or possible chemical/biological attacks
A murder is different
-Its done by a single person. Usually on a single target
-Today police will end up catching them
-Its not everyday some guys decides he'll blow up some 38 people eh?
Although there are lots of bombings, its still a big thing. Isreal gets bombed 24-7. Because people foolishly argue over religious groups in that country. A single bus gets blown up but the whole world knows about it, an odd 5-10 people die. While a murder is just usually a single person, Murders can become big but once again its not everyday someone decides to start a mass-murder spree (despite how many of us wish we could)
But on death count ZL, you are right, its pretty meagor.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:33:03 UTC
Post #119501
Well since this attack has gone ahead it has scared the living
sh!t out of alot of people
we know now security must be rased and know the fact of how we let asylum seekers walk in with terrorist written all over them something aint right there
sh!t out of alot of people
we know now security must be rased and know the fact of how we let asylum seekers walk in with terrorist written all over them something aint right there
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 17:35:39 UTC
Post #119503
It WAS NOT terrorists. It's the doing of the G8 (aka New World Order aka Goverment Elitists aka Bush's little police state goverment) to scare people into being monitored.
Posted 18 years ago2005-07-07 18:03:43 UTC
Post #119506
And supposedly the Madrid bombings were also the doing of the G8 ??
I assume there's absolutely no proof of this and you just read it in a website.
This is not about the obviously forced failure of security measures (9-11) this is an attack carried out by an Al Qaeda cell similar to the one there was in Madrid last year (they blew themselves up in a flat on april 2004).
If you saw Tony Blair on his first speach today, he didnt look like he was behind the mayhem. Is he a very good actor or what?
Europe works in a different way than U.S. If Al Qaeda says the attacks are because of the Iraq war, people wont support the occupation of that country, contrary to the thirst of vengeance caused by 9-11 in the US.
So as I said before, G8 gets nothing good out of this. Or is anyone expecting the British people to give Mr Tony "Palpatine" special powers to create a clone army and put microchips into people's brains? We are not living in a Sci-fi movie and we are not controlled by the Combine overwatch. The world is indeed messed up, and there are responsible people in every side.
But denying that a terrorist group is guilty of these attacks is going a bit too far...
I assume there's absolutely no proof of this and you just read it in a website.
This is not about the obviously forced failure of security measures (9-11) this is an attack carried out by an Al Qaeda cell similar to the one there was in Madrid last year (they blew themselves up in a flat on april 2004).
If you saw Tony Blair on his first speach today, he didnt look like he was behind the mayhem. Is he a very good actor or what?
Europe works in a different way than U.S. If Al Qaeda says the attacks are because of the Iraq war, people wont support the occupation of that country, contrary to the thirst of vengeance caused by 9-11 in the US.
So as I said before, G8 gets nothing good out of this. Or is anyone expecting the British people to give Mr Tony "Palpatine" special powers to create a clone army and put microchips into people's brains? We are not living in a Sci-fi movie and we are not controlled by the Combine overwatch. The world is indeed messed up, and there are responsible people in every side.
But denying that a terrorist group is guilty of these attacks is going a bit too far...
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