This is only a small part of it and Ill change the sky later so that it matches the trees.
New map Im working on
Created 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:20:35 UTC by
J3r3my
Created 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:20:35 UTC by
J3r3my
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:20:35 UTC
Post #130564
Im making an outdoor map that will also have some buildings. Im thinking of making a hostage map. Im putting alot of work into the terrain and this is the first terrain map Ive ever made. Heres some screenies. Tell me what you think.
This is only a small part of it and Ill change the sky later so that it matches the trees.
This is only a small part of it and Ill change the sky later so that it matches the trees.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:25:01 UTC
Post #130566
Nice stuff. The grass could probably do with being less blue, though, or more red.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:27:19 UTC
Post #130570
If only I knew where to get that grass texture from Halo.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:32:19 UTC
Post #130572
Any quarter-decent image editing program will allow you to adjust colour balances :|.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:35:40 UTC
Post #130574
Ya Ill load it into Gimp and mess with it. I just really want that Halo grass.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:46:14 UTC
Post #130577
Nice vertex work...
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:55:11 UTC
Post #130578
Meh, the terrain seems really unrealistic to me, for some reason.
I can also see a couple texture misalignments on the grass. Fix that. ;o
And yeah, it lacks.... stuff. Decent start though!
I can also see a couple texture misalignments on the grass. Fix that. ;o
And yeah, it lacks.... stuff. Decent start though!
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 02:59:20 UTC
Post #130579
Meh, the terrain seems really unrealistic to me, for some reason.I think its the desert background that makes it look out of place.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 03:00:54 UTC
Post #130581
The tree line looks quite realistic imo, except try varying the placement of the tree brushes--so you can't see the same pattern over and over.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 04:38:40 UTC
Post #130586
I think its the desert background that makes it look out of place.Nah, it's not that. It's the actual shape of the terrain, you wouldn't see anything remotely similar to that in real life.... not often anyway.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 06:38:04 UTC
Post #130607
could you show a top view? 
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-29 23:41:30 UTC
Post #130813
Update. Experimenting with different skys. (trying to stick with the original CS ones to save file space) Added what will be a building with rooms and a tunnel in the hillside.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 01:14:24 UTC
Post #130814
Your terrain looks awfully unrealistic.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 01:25:57 UTC
Post #130815
How? Lighting? Texture? What? And plus its a long way from being done.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 01:46:00 UTC
Post #130818
Well, lighting would definitely spruce it up.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 02:25:24 UTC
Post #130822
The terrain still looks unrealistic. It's awfully random, going up and down and all over the place and it just looks WRONG. Usually grassy terrain is in sets of hills, or something.
It looks... rocky and pointy.. never seen grass like that in my life.
It looks... rocky and pointy.. never seen grass like that in my life.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 02:51:42 UTC
Post #130827
Just make the terrain less pointy and make those hills a lil smaller...
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 03:18:47 UTC
Post #130833
I think the actual terrain looks fairly good for a CS map. Granted, there's some height difference and maybe it's a bit too much (this could also hinder movement) but it's not that bad I think.
Now that building does look somewhat out of place. In the middle of a hilly area I wouldn't expect a building like that. There's too much height difference where the terrain meets the building.
Having that tree texture all around that area somehow makes it feel small and cramped for some reason. I think it's just not a nice way to block the level with a sudden, flat screen of trees. Add some trees (models?) in front of those to mask their flattyness. Add a layer of bushes in front of them or such, to break that unnatural flattyness. Make those trees stulp out a bit, whatever. I know it's the HL engine, but you can improve here.
Oh, and adding some more vegetation with leaf sprites or bush models would be a good thing to do.
Good luck with it.
Now that building does look somewhat out of place. In the middle of a hilly area I wouldn't expect a building like that. There's too much height difference where the terrain meets the building.
Having that tree texture all around that area somehow makes it feel small and cramped for some reason. I think it's just not a nice way to block the level with a sudden, flat screen of trees. Add some trees (models?) in front of those to mask their flattyness. Add a layer of bushes in front of them or such, to break that unnatural flattyness. Make those trees stulp out a bit, whatever. I know it's the HL engine, but you can improve here.
Oh, and adding some more vegetation with leaf sprites or bush models would be a good thing to do.
Good luck with it.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 05:14:59 UTC
Post #130836
Try a diffrent layout for the terrain is just a square with hills. Try creating a more complicated layout like I did in this example map! 
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 05:32:51 UTC
Post #130838
I agree with Captain P. He sure hasn't lost his touch at offering good advice.
Here's some tree models from the SnarkPit, made by Fishy. They're great.
I don't agree with you on the terrain though, Captain. It strikes me as pointy, and the actual shape of the terrain seems unrealistic.
Oh, and Jeremy? I'm trusting you'll do something with that damn atrocious building. Spruce it up with some nice architecture, and when you get some lighting in there, the map'll look a lot better.
Oh, and don't hate me because I seem negative. I can actually see potential and would like you to fulfill it. The map really could turn into something great.
Here's some tree models from the SnarkPit, made by Fishy. They're great.
I don't agree with you on the terrain though, Captain. It strikes me as pointy, and the actual shape of the terrain seems unrealistic.
Oh, and Jeremy? I'm trusting you'll do something with that damn atrocious building. Spruce it up with some nice architecture, and when you get some lighting in there, the map'll look a lot better.
Oh, and don't hate me because I seem negative. I can actually see potential and would like you to fulfill it. The map really could turn into something great.
Posted 18 years ago2005-08-30 12:06:07 UTC
Post #130949
Dont worry about the terrain looking pointy or rough. Im gradually smooting it out. I was also planning on adding trees and bushes like you guys suggested and maybe some other structures to hide behind. And the building will get new textures and have windows. And the tunnel will lead to another area of the map that I havent made yet.
Ill get to it when i get home.
Ill get to it when i get home.
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 02:09:49 UTC
Post #131641
Update: Been smoothing out the terrain (still not done yet) and messing with the lighting. I hollowed out the building and added a doorway and some windows (Do not complain about the building! Its nowhere near being done and I promise I will detail and retexture it)
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 02:27:03 UTC
Post #131650
The grass looks far too bright, and it still needs to be less blue.
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 02:28:14 UTC
Post #131651
Right. Ill find a new texture or edit it if I can ever figure out Gimpshop.
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 02:29:41 UTC
Post #131655
Terrain is better. Lighting is... meh. That building really needs detail and retexturing (hehe).
And don't hollow. ;o
And don't hollow. ;o
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 04:51:20 UTC
Post #131671
It's still a square! :
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 06:16:05 UTC
Post #131685
Every map starts somewhere, Elon...
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 06:59:37 UTC
Post #131690
ARGH!
Use a different image host! Bloody pop-ups.
Use a different image host! Bloody pop-ups.
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 07:05:50 UTC
Post #131693
and, if you look around in somewhere like a bus dept. there usually like square/retangles anyway..
I quite like it, the grass does look a lil' unusually.
What kind of building are you making? (like a bus dept. Or something)
The lighting is kinda bad, i don't really think the sky suits the lighting level. Either change the sky to something clear or change the lighting.
EDIT: i don't get any pop-ups, don't you have protection against them?
I quite like it, the grass does look a lil' unusually.
What kind of building are you making? (like a bus dept. Or something)
The lighting is kinda bad, i don't really think the sky suits the lighting level. Either change the sky to something clear or change the lighting.
EDIT: i don't get any pop-ups, don't you have protection against them?
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 07:10:38 UTC
Post #131698
This PC uses AOhelL. My home PC wouldn't be so bad.
Posted 18 years ago2005-09-02 07:35:54 UTC
Post #131705
The lighting doesn't do it for me, and the trees are still just a square around the map (neither do they cast shadows). Work on those things, add a few bushes here and there and it'll greatly improve I think. A different grass texture might be good too.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-01 17:57:09 UTC
Post #138641
I finally got around to working on it some more. New textures! I hope it looks more real now.
Im still very far from being done so dont be harsh on it.
Im still very far from being done so dont be harsh on it.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-01 18:05:28 UTC
Post #138643
Nah thats good! It sorta looked displaced like (HL2) So well done!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-01 18:11:14 UTC
Post #138645
Looks a lot better. I like the entrance. Very suave.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-01 23:47:19 UTC
Post #138668
Hehe thanks. I didnt expect such good comments. I was looking at the older screenshots and even Im surprised how much better it looks 
But I still want it to look even better
But I still want it to look even better
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-02 04:08:57 UTC
Post #138688
I really like the entrance and how you textured it!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-02 04:40:18 UTC
Post #138691
Very nice terrain! Now you have to fix the trees. Something you could do easily would be to place some tree-textured brushes perpendicular to the ones you have. Something like this:
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Posted 18 years ago2005-10-02 05:17:46 UTC
Post #138698
Don't use brush trees. Use mapmodels.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-02 14:04:55 UTC
Post #138814
It will have trees in it at some point.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-03 12:54:27 UTC
Post #138976
Very sexy. Makes me think of DoD for some reason. Probably cause you used Blaz's textures Keep up with it. Its really improved since youve started. Did you use some program to do the VM on the terrain?
Keep up with it. Its really improved since youve started. Did you use some program to do the VM on the terrain?
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-03 19:27:41 UTC
Post #139092
No I did the terrain all manually. Piece by piece lol.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-03 22:53:10 UTC
Post #139120
Major update!
Theres the front of the building.
Garage door open showing the inside of the 1st floor.
View from inside 1st floor.
View from inside the 2nd floor. It will be divided up into a few rooms and will have hostages in there.
Breathtaking view from the top of the stair tower. 30 feet up!
That stair tower sticks out like a sore thumb. Just ugly. Any ideas how to fix it? Like make it square shapped instead of sloped?
Theres the front of the building.
Garage door open showing the inside of the 1st floor.
View from inside 1st floor.
View from inside the 2nd floor. It will be divided up into a few rooms and will have hostages in there.
Breathtaking view from the top of the stair tower. 30 feet up!
That stair tower sticks out like a sore thumb. Just ugly. Any ideas how to fix it? Like make it square shapped instead of sloped?
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-04 01:37:56 UTC
Post #139124
No ideas.. The stair tower looks really ugly, tho.
The map looks much better now, although there should be more light inside the building. That door of the tunnel looks kinda ugleh and streched. You should use a texture more like a door.
The building reminds me of the barracks from Delta Force.
You should add some more buildings, perhaps a smaller building, connected to the big building. And maybe an underground passage to make the gameplay and layout more interesting..
Add something to cover behind in the field.. Some boulders or bushes or trees... Just don't make it all so clear.
The sky fits almost perfectly, btw.
Good work!
The map looks much better now, although there should be more light inside the building. That door of the tunnel looks kinda ugleh and streched. You should use a texture more like a door.
The building reminds me of the barracks from Delta Force.
You should add some more buildings, perhaps a smaller building, connected to the big building. And maybe an underground passage to make the gameplay and layout more interesting..
Add something to cover behind in the field.. Some boulders or bushes or trees... Just don't make it all so clear.
The sky fits almost perfectly, btw.
Good work!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-04 02:16:20 UTC
Post #139146
Id recommend making the stair tower box-shapped and adding a smokestack or an air intake to make it look more functional.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-04 03:11:52 UTC
Post #139184
I cleaned up this thread.
I'm seriously starting to get headaches by seeing this spam and flame war shit in every little thread I visit. Me + Headache + Forum Admin = Not good. It's unnecssary, too, unless you really get off on causing annoyance to admins or something. (Notably me since like everyone glares in my direction when posts dissapear or threads are locked randomly =/ - I'm really not that bad of a guy) You guys can take this up in email or PM though, cause I'll start handing out temp bans for people who start instigating shit or provoking it in the forum.
A general tip is to give CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM on maps too, and not just go "I can't do better but it still sucks." I think I cleaned up those posts so it refers to nothing in here, but its a good general remark to remember.
Not even targeting anyone in general, just keep it clean and you'll do fine.
I'm seriously starting to get headaches by seeing this spam and flame war shit in every little thread I visit. Me + Headache + Forum Admin = Not good. It's unnecssary, too, unless you really get off on causing annoyance to admins or something. (Notably me since like everyone glares in my direction when posts dissapear or threads are locked randomly =/ - I'm really not that bad of a guy) You guys can take this up in email or PM though, cause I'll start handing out temp bans for people who start instigating shit or provoking it in the forum.
A general tip is to give CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM on maps too, and not just go "I can't do better but it still sucks." I think I cleaned up those posts so it refers to nothing in here, but its a good general remark to remember.
Not even targeting anyone in general, just keep it clean and you'll do fine.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-04 03:41:06 UTC
Post #139186
Sorry but this map truly needs a better layout! 
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-04 04:21:00 UTC
Post #139192
Dude, it's just ONE area of the god damn map.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-04 13:45:19 UTC
Post #139328
Elon, how did you win a forum award with comments like that? Be constructive.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-04 13:51:10 UTC
Post #139329
I'm confused! 
I was just saying that the layout is sqaurish and it shouldn't isn't that constructive enough? 
I was just saying that the layout is sqaurish and it shouldn't isn't that constructive enough?
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-04 13:53:52 UTC
Post #139330
Give him some advice to improve it.
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