Journal #8199

Posted 11 years ago2013-07-14 12:41:22 UTC
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
I considered moving to Windows 8 for some time.

Read this.

And this

And Gabe's opinion.

I'm not very convinced anymore. Unfortunately I can't really experience it in a virtual environment due to choppy performance, and I'm not willing to waste a couple of days of moving to Windows 8.
I think I'll wait for Windows 8.1(blue) and see how that fixes some annoying things.

Like many others, I just don't agree with being forced to boot to Metro. Yeah it's nice, but I'm not exactly the illiterate facebook addict that uses his computer just for browsing. I fear windows 8 is a complete failure when it comes to productivity. The desktop- I like. But... switching between Metro and Desktop is confusing.
I'd love a Windows 8 Desktop edition...

Furthermore, Linux distributions are starting to become promising alternatives. Ubuntu might be the star of the show, but there a couple of ubuntu based(debian based) distros that strive to resemble a familiar windows-like environment. Linux Mint is popular, for example. With Wine and Play on Linux, you can run lots of windows apps. It's just that it's not very stable yet.
And there's Zorin OS, which is a Linux distro specifically designed to be a Windows alternative. It comes with a similar interface, and Wine and Play on Linux installed by default.

11 Comments

Commented 11 years ago2013-07-14 12:53:49 UTC Comment #58315
Just why do you need windows 8 when windows 7 has everything you will ever need in an operating system?
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-14 12:57:14 UTC Comment #58309
It is a bit more optimized - performance wise. Starting it takes a lot less time and on a laptop that's a big plus for me. On a desktop, I don't care that much.

At some point we will be forced to upgrade- that's if Linux distros won't be solid alternatives by then. Windows XP was a great OS. I switched to Windows 7 at the end of 2010. Are you still using Windows XP?
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-14 13:39:21 UTC Comment #58311
I know I am. Operating system upgrades are expensive.
That said, it would be nice to get the full potential out of my DX11-capable Graphics card...
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-14 13:58:49 UTC Comment #58316
Jeff i honestly cant believe some one actually buys an operating system.
Ive got mine 7 for free from my college, windows 7 professional. Before installing it i was using Windows 7 Ultimate. Not much difference, but against XP windows 7 is a great improvement.

You can easily improve loading time of windows 7 by disabling the crap you don't need.
Win 8 isn't more optimized at all, the only new thing in win 8 is DX 11.1 , which is bullshit to make you buy a new system because of that. Thats why Micro$oft deserves to get its ass wopped by linux.

My windows 7, with out SSD loads in 20 seconds from end of POST screen to login screen, than 10 more for everything else. Total of 30 seconds.
If thats too long for you than i dont know.
Even if it were loading for 5 minutes, putting your PC to sleep makes it load instantly.
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-14 16:06:10 UTC Comment #58307
Hate Microsoft so much... Thanks for the warning Striker =)

Also:
I don't fucking roll on fucking Shabbas!

:P
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-14 22:06:45 UTC Comment #58312
Windows 8 is absolute crap and I am going to do everything I can to skip it just like I did with Vista and ME. I'm waiting for Windows 9, and if that is just as bad, then I'll move to *nix.

You might not think so, perhaps you've never tried one, but Linux distros already are promising and solid alternatives. I've used Linux Mint and I can tell you there's a bunch of settings in it somewhere that can make it look just like Windows if that's what you want. I personally don't care what it looks like as long as it works the way it's supposed to work. The only thing that was holding me back from moving over was gaming, and now that Steam for Linux is out, I don't even need to care about that either.

With some luck, Win 8.1 will be half decent. In the way that the original Win 98 was just a half assed upgrade to Win 96 and it sucked so bad they had to haul ass to push Win 98 Second Edition out, which turned out to be awesome. I don't think this will be the case, though, so I have strong intentions of moving over to Linux at the first opportunity.
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-14 23:02:14 UTC Comment #58308
Cool information stu and striker! I will play around with mint and zorin per your recommendations!

So long as my major programs work I will totally switch over, or maybe just keep dual boot win7 as a backup.
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-16 03:40:12 UTC Comment #58313
It's just about learning the new things, which is not hard at all. Operating systems have lots of things in common today, especially when using GUIs. (except for Win 8, but that's the point). All of them do about the same things.

Also, Win 95* (just a typo :P )
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-16 22:49:00 UTC Comment #58306
I boot Ubuntu on my HTPC and my NAS runs Debian, but I use my main PC primarily for gaming and programming. Linux/Mac just aren't good enough for gaming (yet), and until my programming language of preference changes from C#, Windows is my best environment for programming as well.

My conclusion is that for me, Linux is the correct choice for a specialised box or a server, but Windows is the only option for a general purpose computer. Hopefully that changes in the future :)

Windows 8 is silly, with all the shoving tablet interfaces onto a desktop environment. 8.1 is a tiny step forward, but not enough to convince me to upgrade. Hopefully MS see the light and fix 8.2 or 9 or whatever to not be crap :P
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-18 23:09:45 UTC Comment #58314
Tried windows 8 last month and guess what, turns out that the desktop is a mere 'app' that you have to manually switch to every time you wanna do something. Among other funny stuff that occurred while using this excuse of an OS:
  • Couldn't find the shut down button. Since the quintessential 'start' button was REMOVED, you have to sit there manually searching for a shut down button till you realize you have to Alt+F4 for once where it's actually useful
  • Loads of features for a console I don't own-- seriously, this thing might as well be another Xbox console
  • Bunch of other useless stuff you can easily find on the internet (you know, like those 10-20 useless phone apps)
  • While transferring files from a flash drive, the progress froze and said files were incomplete, effectively corrupted and useless
  • Microsoft wants to fight apple and start tablet wars. And that means forcing it on your average PC user. How fair is that
  • Yes, windows 8 will be the future and everyone Will be forced to use it eventually. I will be returning to this journal to look at alternative suggestions when I decide to jump ship
  • I should prolly have made this into a journal.
Commented 11 years ago2013-07-26 07:49:28 UTC Comment #58310
Let's hope we'll have a desktop edition where Metro is an app and not the other way.

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