I vote for: GPCT!
(Gold Polyhedron Compiling Tools)
Coming in 1st April, 2033, at 4:20 PM., exactly when Half-Life 3 releases. (OK, you could ignore these 2 sentences because it's a joke xD)
I don't know, it sounds cool!
BSP-based mapping (CSG should be appropriate, too) is basically about polyhedrons. So, I think it's OK.
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Huh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, I tried HlRad with -high.
My laptop was suffering, and I had to kill hlrad.exe.
So yeah, I guess that we came to a conclusion:
If you want a detailed, outdoors map, just be patient and wait until it finishes.
What jacksepticeye said: "Speed is key!" is false.
My laptop was suffering, and I had to kill hlrad.exe.
So yeah, I guess that we came to a conclusion:
If you want a detailed, outdoors map, just be patient and wait until it finishes.
What jacksepticeye said: "Speed is key!" is false.
Wait, a Pentium 4 with 3.2GHz!? I only thought they were around 2GHz. 
Yeah, I wonder what if someone makes a GoldSrc version, of the Source compilers? Then some people could easily take incorporate the Lightmap Scale option into a map editor, for example.
And, there's one thing I must say during compiling:
NEVER SET PRIORITY TO 'REALTIME' DURING COMPILING.
Always remember this. This applies to hlcsg, hlbsp, hlvis and hlrad.
Basically, the "realtime" priority is only for the mouse and the keyboard, i.e. the main input devices! If you choose to set the priority to real-time then your mouse, keyboard and the entire system might freeze.
It happened to me once. :3
Yeah, I wonder what if someone makes a GoldSrc version, of the Source compilers? Then some people could easily take incorporate the Lightmap Scale option into a map editor, for example.
And, there's one thing I must say during compiling:
NEVER SET PRIORITY TO 'REALTIME' DURING COMPILING.
Always remember this. This applies to hlcsg, hlbsp, hlvis and hlrad.
Basically, the "realtime" priority is only for the mouse and the keyboard, i.e. the main input devices! If you choose to set the priority to real-time then your mouse, keyboard and the entire system might freeze.
It happened to me once. :3
I was talking about GoldSource, not Source.
And it's true, compiling Source maps takes waaay less time than GoldSrc.
I was so so surprised that 1 simple room with 1 light took like 2 seconds to compile for Source. Meanwhile, it takes longer for GoldSrc.
And hey, I usually wait 5 or 10 minutes for VIS, and then 30 to 40 minutes for RAD, for GoldSRC.
I guess that's what happens when you have a 10-year-old laptop with a 2.4GHz dual-core processor with 2GB of DDR2 (Shepard gets triggered) memory.
As for the map itself, let me find it...
It's basically a map from Rainbow Six: Siege ported to CS 1.6.
And it's true, compiling Source maps takes waaay less time than GoldSrc.
I was so so surprised that 1 simple room with 1 light took like 2 seconds to compile for Source. Meanwhile, it takes longer for GoldSrc.
And hey, I usually wait 5 or 10 minutes for VIS, and then 30 to 40 minutes for RAD, for GoldSRC.
I guess that's what happens when you have a 10-year-old laptop with a 2.4GHz dual-core processor with 2GB of DDR2 (Shepard gets triggered) memory.
As for the map itself, let me find it...
It's basically a map from Rainbow Six: Siege ported to CS 1.6.
@Shepard62700FR
I saw a map on GameBanana which took 15 days to compile. Guess because of who? HlVis!
To be honest, I would be fine with letting my laptop compile a map as long as that, lol.
Interestingly, I have a Half-Life map, FILLED with these triangles (inside a 2048^3 area) and HlVis runs it all in under 4 minutes.
Well, I admit, it doesn't have very high-poly terrain. They're in the parts of the map. One part is very detailed, the other part isn't so detailed. I.e. one is higer-poly, and one is lesser-poly.
And this is where problems start...
Some triangles (even if they're covered with a non-null texture) still appear invisible.
But, other than that, I haven't had any major problems with triangular terrain.
Mmm, yeah. There's 1 additional problem. This long compile time is in fact very needy and greedy.
I compiled ts_untergrund with fast HlVis. triggers everyone
So, when I'm standing on one specific place, all the entities go invisible.
I only experienced these problems:
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I selected it and turned on "passable". Then I copied the whole terrain on the same spot and covered the copied one in CLIP (only the top faces, the rest was in Bevel).
Yeah, much effort for a not-so-great improvement.
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But still, us mappers can find a way out, most of the time. :3
Right?
I saw a map on GameBanana which took 15 days to compile. Guess because of who? HlVis!
To be honest, I would be fine with letting my laptop compile a map as long as that, lol.
Interestingly, I have a Half-Life map, FILLED with these triangles (inside a 2048^3 area) and HlVis runs it all in under 4 minutes.
Well, I admit, it doesn't have very high-poly terrain. They're in the parts of the map. One part is very detailed, the other part isn't so detailed. I.e. one is higer-poly, and one is lesser-poly.
And this is where problems start...
Some triangles (even if they're covered with a non-null texture) still appear invisible.
But, other than that, I haven't had any major problems with triangular terrain.
Mmm, yeah. There's 1 additional problem. This long compile time is in fact very needy and greedy.
I compiled ts_untergrund with fast HlVis. triggers everyone
So, when I'm standing on one specific place, all the entities go invisible.
I only experienced these problems:
- Long compile time (although, I am patient and willing to wait :3)
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- Some missing faces (not a HlVis bug)
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- Invisible entities, if standing on a specific spot (fast HlVis)
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- Max clipnodes exceeded if I turn my terrain into a func_detail
I selected it and turned on "passable". Then I copied the whole terrain on the same spot and covered the copied one in CLIP (only the top faces, the rest was in Bevel).
Yeah, much effort for a not-so-great improvement.
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But still, us mappers can find a way out, most of the time. :3
Right?
@Shepard62700FR
If you've seen my The Specialists map, ts_untergrund, you'd have noticed that it has a lot of triangles and tetrahedrons. The rest are, well, 4-sided prisms, i.e. usual brushes.
I only had the clipnodes problem when I converted the terrain into a func_detail. But then we have the bevel texture which supposedly removes clipping from the surface it's applied onto.
"nice try son, you forgot one thing : clipnodes."Nice try, and that "try" had its success in one of my maps.
If you've seen my The Specialists map, ts_untergrund, you'd have noticed that it has a lot of triangles and tetrahedrons. The rest are, well, 4-sided prisms, i.e. usual brushes.
I only had the clipnodes problem when I converted the terrain into a func_detail. But then we have the bevel texture which supposedly removes clipping from the surface it's applied onto.
I have an idea for the terrain:
1. Make a model of a random mountain or something
2. Place that into the map
3. Cover (if necessary) with CLIP brushes on appropriate spots
Easy peasy. Or just use the old-fashioned "fake displacements".
1. Make a model of a random mountain or something
2. Place that into the map
3. Cover (if necessary) with CLIP brushes on appropriate spots
Easy peasy. Or just use the old-fashioned "fake displacements".
"enjoy it while it's still easy to learn."Well, to be honest I believe that I'm already approaching the end of my ability to learn things easier. (I mean, new skills)
I learned so much when I was 12, 13 and 14, although the real progress started when I was 13. (regarding mapping, modelling, texturing etc.)
Or maybe I just feel too old because 15 (my age) is a nice number, lol.
But I definitely know that I need to find some tutorials for Blender, because where on Earth is the material editor!? (that's just an example :3)
Meanwhile, I found an older version of Blender (i.e. version 2.60) and it seems to not minimally require OpenGL 2.1, but something that my laptop is actually able to support.
I seriously love the sculpting tools which Blender has to offer.
Though, for some of my projects, I'll still stay with 3ds Max 6 and 9.
And @Crollo, holy ship, you've made something that would cause a "R.I.P. my laptop".
Good job.
Though, for some of my projects, I'll still stay with 3ds Max 6 and 9.
And @Crollo, holy ship, you've made something that would cause a "R.I.P. my laptop".
Good job.
Congratulations!
The school photos are just reference photos for my school map.
There's nothing special about them.
And, lol, the only "OK" camera I have is the one on my phone. But hey, it's good enough for sufficient texture extraction, and that's all that matters.
There's nothing special about them.
And, lol, the only "OK" camera I have is the one on my phone. But hey, it's good enough for sufficient texture extraction, and that's all that matters.
Well, let's see what my room looked like a year or two ago:
Huh, it hasn't changed almost anyhow, except I added a blanket under my table, on the wooden floor, to avoid getting cold.
So yeah, that pretty much represents my work conditions.
The only problem I have here is that I share my room with my grandma, but that's not such a big deal, except it limits me from using the voice chat on Discord
So yeah, that pretty much represents my work conditions.
The only problem I have here is that I share my room with my grandma, but that's not such a big deal, except it limits me from using the voice chat on Discord
Nice. I'll check it out possibly tomorrow. Uhh, it's 23:05 at my place right now, so I can't do it now.
The texture problems are temporary, I will fix that
However, I will not map with the grid in that map!
However, I will not map with the grid in that map!
Mapping without the grid lines:
The snap-to-grid feature is still on, though. Apparently, it's easier than I thought.
There's more:
The STALKER + HL2 part. I know it doesn't look like them, but it is really cloudy.
Well, this is something I might make for Sven Co-op
After all, I love "train rides" (not limited to trains, hence the quotation signs).
Hah, look at that. I could extract a texture or two from it.
Oh, those hills and trees. Sadly, I'll leave my village someday.
Now, time for some school photos!
This is a hallway on the 1st floor.
And this is the other side. Since I can't select Large Thumbnail etc. on mobile Imgur, I decided to manually scale the images
There's even more...
Somewhen in the future, I'll perhaps need them as reference pictures. About the school pictures, well, I'll need them very soon, and I've already extracted 6 textures, I think.
After all, I love "train rides" (not limited to trains, hence the quotation signs).
Oh, those hills and trees. Sadly, I'll leave my village someday.
Now, time for some school photos!
There's even more...
Somewhen in the future, I'll perhaps need them as reference pictures. About the school pictures, well, I'll need them very soon, and I've already extracted 6 textures, I think.
Nice
It's best when you fix it by yourself, that's a sign of a good potential mapper.
It's best when you fix it by yourself, that's a sign of a good potential mapper.
Are you testing the map in Half-Life multiplayer? That might be the reason why you lose weapons. Just enter the console and type: map name
Also, it's Xen, not exen
Also, it's Xen, not exen
So, Far Cry and Crysis should somewhat resemble the mentioned photos?
I'm just saying that I live in an environment where the vegetation has that look of a blend of Crysis, Far Cry 2 and 4.
However, once the winter comes, it looks like a mix of STALKER, and Half-Life 2. I'll post a photo of that, too
I'm just saying that I live in an environment where the vegetation has that look of a blend of Crysis, Far Cry 2 and 4.
However, once the winter comes, it looks like a mix of STALKER, and Half-Life 2. I'll post a photo of that, too
In my opinion, the photos taken in May and June somewhat resemble the Far Cry and Crysis games
I collected some stuff over the past year:
This was in... May.
This was in June.
This was in August.
This was in October.
And then in December:
I've got more.
This was in March:
This was in May.
Hmm, yeah. Now I can keep doing that over the months, and ultimately track down the vegetational periods in my area
And then in December:
This was in March:
Hmm, yeah. Now I can keep doing that over the months, and ultimately track down the vegetational periods in my area
What are you talking about? LOOK at those smexy, flexy shadows! MAN.... if I could compile that on my laptop...
Also, try -notexscale -texchop 8 -chop 16 -extra in the HLRAD compile parameters :3
Also, try -notexscale -texchop 8 -chop 16 -extra in the HLRAD compile parameters :3
Well, I set Light Flags to "Opaque + Concave Fix" almost always
I rarely use "Opaque (Blocks Light)".
I rarely use "Opaque (Blocks Light)".
Nope, texture lighting works for me:
Had that problem with a map of mine. Looks like you'll have to work within the limits
This seems to have gone off-topic
The human body itself is amazing
1 smokes, 1 drinks beer, 1 takes drugs, and everyone else drinks rakia (south-Slav version of vodka). Except me, I am the only guy who is quiet and unnoticeable.
Hmm, maybe I could add some details into the map which tell a mini story for themselves
Hmm, maybe I could add some details into the map which tell a mini story for themselves
I remember when I mapped with a standard of 6-unit thick walls.I remember when I mapped with a standard of:
32-unit thick walls
8-unit thick fences
64-unit thick floors and ceilings
16-unit thick doors (NEVER again)
Now I am so glad that I reduced it to a much more realistic scale:
4 to 16-unit thick walls
2 or 4-unit thick fences
32-unit thick floors and ceilings
4 or 8-unit thick doors
That is so visible in my school map. In the old version, everything was so thick, and unrealistic. Now, I made much better improvements to dimensions
Exactly!
But the school looks more like a jail, rather than a school xD
But the school looks more like a jail, rather than a school xD
LoL, this would be so sad in real life.
Fortunately, it's never going to happen.
Fortunately, it's never going to happen.
And a matrix is useful when projecting 3D stuff on a 2D screen XD
At least I heard so
At least I heard so
Taking a second look at them, they probably look like half-burnt planks, but they're too thick.
Let's take a look again:
Come on, these are concrete slabs
Let's take a look again:
I'm sure that Vodka95 rarely even touches the grid under 8 xD
You didn't even know about the grid, lol.
You didn't even know about the grid, lol.
Well, @abbadon, you're really good at what you're doing then. clap, clap, clap
I didn't use a wooden texture. I used conc and crete textures
... should be illegal.
Therefore, it is not illegal yet, and you're not going to jail
Therefore, it is not illegal yet, and you're not going to jail
the only way I know to measure something is using the "info_player_start" entity´s size in the 2D wiew in Quark..
They [b]are[/b] concrete slabs, how come you didn't understand that?
I mean, why would we ever have wooden planks on the stadium?
If I were to walk on that in school, they would snap and break. That's why we have concrete slabs instead
I mean, why would we ever have wooden planks on the stadium?
If I were to walk on that in school, they would snap and break. That's why we have concrete slabs instead
Now, speaking of:
I totally thought the first picture was a reallllly well textured map.I can always try:
Man, I don't think that QuArK has a grid, even
I have QuakeArmyKnife installed on my laptop, but I've never used it, so...
Hmm, also, @abbadon, why Quark? I know it supports Quake, GoldSrc, Source and even other games using idTech 2 and 3 (MoH:AA for example), but seriously? QuArK!? quack! quack!
I have QuakeArmyKnife installed on my laptop, but I've never used it, so...
Hmm, also, @abbadon, why Quark? I know it supports Quake, GoldSrc, Source and even other games using idTech 2 and 3 (MoH:AA for example), but seriously? QuArK!? quack! quack!
Yes and no.
Yes, you could make tiny maps if the player size was 1 or 2 units. Man, imagine a 2048^3 unit map, with a 1-unit player xD
And no, because with a 1-grid spacing, you can cut your brushes with a lot of detail. 1 unit is the smallest thing GoldSrc accepts in maps. Anything below that will give some problems :/
Units are just measurements: door height - 96 units; wall height - 128, 192, 240 or 256 units; small crate - 32x32x32 units; wall thickness - 4, 8 or 16 units etc.
Yes, you could make tiny maps if the player size was 1 or 2 units. Man, imagine a 2048^3 unit map, with a 1-unit player xD
And no, because with a 1-grid spacing, you can cut your brushes with a lot of detail. 1 unit is the smallest thing GoldSrc accepts in maps. Anything below that will give some problems :/
Units are just measurements: door height - 96 units; wall height - 128, 192, 240 or 256 units; small crate - 32x32x32 units; wall thickness - 4, 8 or 16 units etc.
Yeah, see, I'll turn 15 on the 23rd of February
Man, finally a nice number. 15 is quite a neat number, actually. It's 1/4 of a minute (in seconds), and so, it's 1/6 of 90°. Man, I can't wait to turn 15.
@Trempler
So you're saying:
"Stop releasing stuff when you go up to 95% and then something goes wrong."
What? Only 3 GoldSrc maps ever reached even 80%, at least in my situation. Those include: fy_rknsand, de_kobbl and ts_untergrund.
Only of which, ts_untergrund was released as a map.
Or maybe I didn't understand what were you saying :/
Man, finally a nice number. 15 is quite a neat number, actually. It's 1/4 of a minute (in seconds), and so, it's 1/6 of 90°. Man, I can't wait to turn 15.
@Trempler
So you're saying:
"Stop releasing stuff when you go up to 95% and then something goes wrong."
What? Only 3 GoldSrc maps ever reached even 80%, at least in my situation. Those include: fy_rknsand, de_kobbl and ts_untergrund.
Only of which, ts_untergrund was released as a map.
Or maybe I didn't understand what were you saying :/
Why, thank you Trempler
I started mapping when I was 12, and even then, things had lots of potential. Though, as my skills improved, I lost potential and ideas (maybe not, who knows)
But then, I have these unfinished WiPs, so that's at least one thing I can work on
E.g. Sandstorm, Left4Crabs, dm_/fy_stoned, fy_rknsand, de_kobbl (I'll get paid for that one), de_crater and de_avposs (a.k.a de_stroytheschool). Many more to come.
I am a (mostly) self-taught mapper, and nobody ever taught me anything. What I know is my own knowledge I gathered, mostly from my experience. Tutorials helped me start, I "brushed" off the rest. xD (get it?)
So, the scars of self-teaching are certainly noticeable in me
I started mapping when I was 12, and even then, things had lots of potential. Though, as my skills improved, I lost potential and ideas (maybe not, who knows)
But then, I have these unfinished WiPs, so that's at least one thing I can work on
E.g. Sandstorm, Left4Crabs, dm_/fy_stoned, fy_rknsand, de_kobbl (I'll get paid for that one), de_crater and de_avposs (a.k.a de_stroytheschool). Many more to come.
maybe I should teach you how to use some stuff in a better way.Well, that would certainly be nice.
I am a (mostly) self-taught mapper, and nobody ever taught me anything. What I know is my own knowledge I gathered, mostly from my experience. Tutorials helped me start, I "brushed" off the rest. xD (get it?)
So, the scars of self-teaching are certainly noticeable in me
What v3.0!?
The one I linked was version beta 3 (I think) so that translates to v0.3 in my versioning system. The second picture shows the reboot in v0.001 (pre-alpha 1).
But hey, my school map will certainly be good
About the good texturing part, well, I'll try my best and we will see what happens.
The one I linked was version beta 3 (I think) so that translates to v0.3 in my versioning system. The second picture shows the reboot in v0.001 (pre-alpha 1).
But hey, my school map will certainly be good
About the good texturing part, well, I'll try my best and we will see what happens.
It's the grid size:
1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024 etc.
1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024 etc.
Vodka refers to his mapping style, which looks like something from the early early 2000s
First image: real life part
Second image: new, re-booted version (total remake)
Third image: old version
Now you'll understand
Second image: new, re-booted version (total remake)
Third image: old version
Now you'll understand
Come on, Trempler! XD
You'd seriously think that I'd ever leave TWHL? It was just a prank, bro! When you people joke with me, I'll joke back, too >:D
Back on topic:
I got some real-life reference photos now
And so, I can finally re-boot this map! Yaay
P.S. It's for Sven Co-op now. Basically, it's about aliens invading my school, which gets destroyed at the end.
You'd seriously think that I'd ever leave TWHL? It was just a prank, bro! When you people joke with me, I'll joke back, too >:D
Back on topic:
And so, I can finally re-boot this map! Yaay
P.S. It's for Sven Co-op now. Basically, it's about aliens invading my school, which gets destroyed at the end.