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Posted 21 years ago2003-04-01 18:00:01 UTC
in Polygon count etc Post #853

Thought you were nuts when I saw your drawings. Only realised what was going on when I replied and saw them as a quote

As Andy said, non-visible surfaces are ignored, so I don't think the top one would be any more efficient (maybe quicker to compile). BTW, the top one is concave and therefore invalid as one brush anyway.

More lights definately slow down compile, but I don't think they matter in-game. Models... well, they are lit 'more dynamically' than the rest of the map, but whether lighting them is significantly more work for the computer is doubtful. Their lighting will be simplified.

For the hole:
1) Make the hole in a block that it just the right size, then build the rest of the wall around that.
2) Vertex manip. is best
3) You could divide the block into smaller blocks, and then VM the verticies in the middle. Pull them outwards.

So here's a drawing from the front. You'll need to click reply to this message, then click the quote button to see it correctly.

| -------- |

| |__/ __| |

| |_| |_| |

| |____/__| |

The VM tuts here at TWHL might help.

Getting more points can be done by splitting faces. In VM mode, select two vertices or two edges and press Ctrl+F. I think its mensioned in the first VM tut. BUT, doing this is perhaps the easiest way to get invalid solids. Rather just use more blocks.

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SpaceCoyote

Posted 21 years ago2003-04-01 16:13:22 UTC
in Polygon count etc Post #852

Ok thanks for the info so far, I expected lighting to decrease speed if only because the models of the player and monsters are always dynamically lit (well as far as I can tell) but I guess I was wrong. So it could be texture lights are even heavier on the engine than normal light ents.

Coming back to the hole in the wall, so it would be more efficient for making the edge to have a single brush with more points to do something like this:

_/_/ ___
| |

rather than have multiple cubes like this:

/|

_/_/ | ___
| || | | | |

I hope you can make out what I'm trying to explain.
Also is there a way to add more points to a brush after it's been created? Thanks again

SpaceCoyote

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-31 19:59:28 UTC
in Polygon count etc Post #851

Hey I was just wondering 2 things about map efficiency.

First say I want to make an irregular hole in a wall, is it better to make one polygon with many points to model the edge or to make every point its own cube? Does it make a difference? Maybe VIS works that stuff out anyway?

Second about light entities, I know they make the map slower the more you use (obviously) so is it easier on the engine to use texture lights or are they just as bad?

SpaceCoyote

Andy

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-27 20:18:42 UTC
in sitting scientists Post #859

Yeah, If this little problem didn't drive me mad originally...

So Check out this link, it's old.. It needs some tweaking, but it does work.
<http://www.mrman58.freeserve.co.uk/spawningtank/tutorials/tut_chair.html>

Andy

SoV?eT

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-27 08:16:24 UTC
in sitting scientists Post #858

how do you make it a scientist sitting on a chair look realistic? I tried to place him over the chair but he always
gets his ass stuck in the seat.

SoV?eT

Angel of death

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-26 20:54:36 UTC
in to andy Post #1211

At that last reply about geting the scripted_sentences to work. Yup there working now. hey i will post stuff daily and talk to you guys. And if any questions come i know who to ask. But about myself im only 15 male and live in sc I surf the web every now and then and i think i found this site by mistake but when i saw it i just stuck around so here i am! i think i sent a map that i needed help on to adom or you i forgot see if you can get any info on that. thanks well i got to go.

See you later

angel of darkness

Angel of death

Andy

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-26 20:07:56 UTC
in to andy Post #1210

Atom does all the work, I just add some misguided comments now and then, Oh, and e-mail him at least fifteen times a day with ideas....

I stumbled into this site from a link someone sent me and couldn't believe my luck. Finally there was a place you could ask questions without being flamed, and everybody was really helpful, and I keep learning things every day. So I wrote a few tutorials based on the original WorldCraft help files, and help out where I can. I know a good site when I see one, that's why I stick around.

Did you get the scripted_sentences working?

Andy

Angel of death

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-26 03:02:59 UTC
in to andy Post #1209

thanks for the txt file that file is located at the bottom of the Pak file under sounds i never looked at that file before so when i saw that file u gave me i looked for it in the pak file and shure enough there it was! So it really helped. you also said you got together with Atom and have been working on the site together that sounds cool, keep up the good work.

well got 2 go later

Angel of death

Angel of death

Tlax

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-25 07:50:53 UTC
in Need help Post #864

Hum ?For Half-Life I think you can make it with, item_security, env_render, func_wall_toggle, multisource, func_door and trigger_auto.
trigger_auto:Target: key_render.

     Delay before trigger: 0.5.
     Trigger State: Off.

Flags: Remove on fire.

env_render : Name: key_render.

     Target:  sec_key. 
     Render Mode: texture.
     Fx Amount: 0.

Item_security: Name: sec_key.

       Target: M_sec.

Multisource: Name: M_sec.

     Target: key.

Func_wall_toggle: Name: key.
Made from a brush, locks as a key.

Func_door: Master: M_sec.

   Speed: ...
   Sound: ...
   Locked Sound: Latch Locked

Trigger_auto start env_render, env_render do item_security invisible, when player pick up the key item_security, item_security activate the multisource and it activate and give func_door master on, multisource do the func_wall_toggle to disappear.
Place item_security and func_wall_toggle on same place.

Can it bi some help? I hop so.

Tlax

Angel of death

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-25 04:46:17 UTC
in Help Post #862

Ok this is a basic worldcraft question but i cant get a grip on how to do this. When i want to make a scientist talk or anything else for that matter, I forgot, you are suppost to use pak explore to find the sent. and put a ! in front of it but then what, I know you cant type in the whole sent like it is in the pak file. There was a certan way 2 do it i just forgot

thanks

Angel of death

Angel of death

atom

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-24 19:40:38 UTC
in Files? Post #1213

Hmmm... I suppose we could have a downloads section, or at least links to the 'essentials'... I'll see about compiling a list. Nice idea, thanks.

Funny you should mension a place to put BSPs - we have secret plans for a new section for something like that

Stay tuned.

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Angel of death

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-24 19:37:39 UTC
in Cool ideas for levels? Post #1328

Thanks for the reply Andy i will keep that in mind. Im still just geting used to worldcraft so i think i'll what till im better to make a good level any way.

thanks agan!

Angel of death

Angel of death

Andy

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-24 19:21:47 UTC
in Cool ideas for levels? Post #1327

Cool Ideas?

I still think that anything is cool in HL. There is heaps of reference stuff out there on how to design and detail a level. I believe the main thing is that as long as it's fun to play, then it's a winner. No need to work hard to produce stuff that hasn't been done, when the game engine still has so many possibilities that haven't been explored (Or looked at recently).

Andy

Angel of death

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-24 18:09:02 UTC
in Need help Post #863

hello i got a problem i was just wondering wut totorial i would go under to find out this:

I want to maker a brush in worldcraft that has the abilty to act as a key to a door I want the player to be able to pick up this brush and carry it around until it meets its destanation which is the door.

thanks

Angel of death

Angel of death

LightForce

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-23 20:18:09 UTC
in Is there any way to make the scientist s Post #1324

Two sites you might want to check out:

http://www.valve-erc.com/entities/?entity=scripted_sentence

http://home.att.net/%7Efirebinder/halflife/sounds1.htm

LightForce

Angel of death

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-23 18:35:51 UTC
in Files? Post #1212

Hello i dont know to much about this site or the makers but i was just wondering why you dont have a downloads section, that whould be cool. Like i dont know, maybe put some bsp files so pepole can play maps other pepole make. I dont know its just a sugestion.

Angel of death

ps: bad spelling , sorry

Angel of death

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-23 18:15:37 UTC
in Is there any way to make the scientist s Post #1323

Looking for a program to write your own script for the scientist or guards in worldcraft.

Angel of death

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-23 18:05:43 UTC
in Cool ideas for levels? Post #1326

Any body have any good ideas for levels that you would recomend?

Angel of death

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Posted 21 years ago2003-03-18 18:24:58 UTC
in Monsters... Post #882

For the full effect you'll need to use a bunch of entities - env_sprite for the main explosion thing, and some env_lasers and info_targets for the sparky bits. And then a ambient_generic for the sound. I think that's about it. Tie all these together with a multi_manager.

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Bloodlost

Posted 21 years ago2003-03-18 14:04:57 UTC
in Monsters... Post #881

How can i make that teleportting effect because it just looks stupid that monster just appear from middle of nowhere...

Bloodlost

Pokec

Posted 21 years ago2003-02-19 10:33:03 UTC
in NULL Texture? Post #940

ZHLT 2.5.3 Custom Build 1.7 is, as far as I know, the latest version. I checked the version of the tools that came with QeRadiant (I don't know if they're available with installation file, since I got QeRadiant from a friend, because I didn't want to bother with configuring compile tools) and it's also 2.5.3, but it's from May 2 2001 (CS 1.7 is from Dec 9 2002).

Pokec

Andy

Posted 21 years ago2003-02-17 20:13:12 UTC
in NULL Texture? Post #939

Once again, I am guessing here, but the files you have listed look suspiciously like the ones from the first issue of ZHLT 253. I am not sure of the custom build version but there were quite a few out there, I ran into CB 1.6 the other day.
All versions of zoners seem to mention the Null texture feature, but from what I can gather the actual true implementation of it has only come with 253 custom build 1.7 as it is included in the zhlt.wad, although I remember it being there early on ZHLT, but no information being supplied.
Is there a newer version of ZHLT than CB 1.7 out there? If so let me know.
So, when you say Radiant, are you using Qradiant to map.... Excuse the ignorance, but I don't know any thing about radiant, I just saw the Qeradiant website and it had a great tutorial on Sky's, although it wasn't any good to Hammer users as the Q fgd is different.

Glad that the info helped, keep mapping.

Andy

Pokec

Posted 21 years ago2003-02-17 10:49:49 UTC
in NULL Texture? Post #938

Hmm, funny thing, my ZHLT folder (installed together with Radiant) was missing the Readme.txt file. It seems to me I've been using some obsolete version of Zoner's Tools:

CCXX32.dll
clipnode.map
default.hull
dumpbrush.pl
dumpent.pl
dumpline.pl
hlbsp.exe
hlcsg.exe
hlrad.exe
hlvis.exe
netvis.exe
netvis.html
numberbrush.pl
ripent.exe
stripnulents.pl
tfcabbrev.pl
zeditor.wad
zhlt.css
zhlt.wad
ZHLTIntro.html
ZHLTProblems.html
ZHLTReference.html
ZonersHalflifeTools.html

I've now the latest version - together with Readme file.

Thank's for the info, Andy!

Pokec

Posted 21 years ago2003-02-12 13:50:12 UTC
in NULL Texture? Post #937

I heard that NULL texture (comes with Zoner's tools) in Half-Life has the same purpose as Quake 3's Caulk (covering faces that are invisible to player for example). Is that true? Has anyone experience with it?

Great page, btw.

Pokec

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Posted 21 years ago2003-02-05 19:21:55 UTC
in map not running HELP Please!?!?! Post #942

That usually means there's been a problem with compiling the map (or moving it), and that's usually because of the configuration. I can't remember how I set up expert mode, but I noticed now that it's possible the setup can get 'stuck' when you change configurations.

So.... presuming the problem is with the config...

in Expert mode, the first FOUR commands might look like paths (e.g. 'c:program filesworldcraftzhlthlbsp.exe'). Click each one in turn, then click the Cmds button to the right, and select one of the 'program' commands based on the filename in the path. For example, 'hlbsp.exe' (or 'qbsp.exe') is the 'BSP Program'. The only one that isn't obvious is 'hlrad.exe' (or 'qrad.exe'), which is the 'LIGHT Program'.

Replace the LAST command with 'Game program' from the Cmds list.

That might work. If not, post a copy of your compile log.

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foxyman

Posted 21 years ago2003-02-04 19:46:31 UTC
in map not running HELP Please!?!?! Post #941

i have made my map, and saved it onto my hard-drive. when i press F9, the expert box comes up, and then i set the drop down box to 'Half - Life (full)', because that is what i configured valve hammer for. when i click the go button on the expert box, the console opens on half life, with the half life bqackground, and i get the following message:

Map Change Failed. Map 'main' Not Found on Server.

'main' is the name of my map. i have made levels for counterstrike, and never had problems like this, anyone know what is goin worng??

thanks for any help,

>>> Foxy <<<

foxyman

MASTeRmiNd

Posted 21 years ago2003-01-29 00:26:19 UTC
in Gday Post #1214

i just stumbled across this site, im guessing its new because i reguarly search for tutorials and have never come across this before. I have to say good job on the site, and its good to finally find a site where the people in the forums actually help each other instead of being know it alls and bitching to those that dont know.

Also your tutorials have helped me alot, now i can start doing a single player mission for Half Life without having to search so much on how to do it.

MASTeRmiNd

Andy

Posted 21 years ago2003-01-19 00:16:21 UTC
in Blood on glass func_door? Post #957

Brilliant outside the square fix... love it.
Also my suggestion about the decal flag wasn't right, to have the blood remain on the glass it has to be checked on... Silly me.

Andy

SlayerA

Posted 21 years ago2003-01-18 17:41:24 UTC
in Blood on glass func_door? Post #956

Thanks Andy, that worked. I was able to play around with the env_blood settings like you suggested to get the effect I wanted. I actually had to put the env_blood on the OUTSIDE of the glass with the player so that the decal would be visible to him. I used several env_blood entities set to small amounts which makes it hard to tell that the blood is not coming from the inside of the glass room. Excellent suggestion, thanks again!

SlayerA

Andy

Posted 21 years ago2003-01-18 11:52:08 UTC
in Blood on glass func_door? Post #955

I played around with this and used an env_blood entity, or several, triggered by a normal trigger_multiple (in your case trigger_once would be better). It threw blood onto the glass, but not directly in front of the player. So the glass looked great everywhere else. I had it set to Blood Stream, so I wonder if that makes a difference? All I do know is that increasing the amount of blood above the default 100 doesn't seem to produce more.
Maybe the Decal flag needs to be unchecked? Let me know if you find out.
Andy

Andy

SlayerA

Posted 21 years ago2003-01-17 21:10:41 UTC
in Blood on glass func_door? Post #954

I am creating an action sequence that shows a monster_bigmomma getting blown to pieces in a glass enclosed observation room. Everything looks right except I want a big glob of blood to splat on the glass func_door that separates the player and the bigmomma. Any ideas on how to accomplish this? I've tried a few things, but no luck yet. -slay

SlayerA