How to fight it... Created 20 years ago2004-01-25 14:43:52 UTC by Dark Phoenix

Ive been making this little map pak project/mini mod thing of mine for a long while now. Ive got so many good ideas (well good ideas for me) for my story and maps and stuff, but im progessing quite slowly and map making takes along time. The annoying thing is that im doing a really boring part of my map at the moment and its quite large, so im getting tired of it, and i keep having all sorts of ideas for whats gonna happen later, luckily i write most of it down, but i was wondering how other mappers get motivation to carry on?

My only motivation is that i keep getting all these ideas that i think are pretty nifty and i think people might like my game/map pak so i want to finish it. But i dont think i'll finish it before HL2 comes out which means that when i do finally release it, no one will play it!

Just wondering what other mappers do to keep mapping?
And how long does it take to finish a map until your satisfied with it?
Whats the average age of these mappers?

Sorry, I know this totally off topic but im very curious, Cheers

You have to have a team. To keep going, you need others to help, so you know if you fail, they will kill you.

but really, you need a team.

No. You just need motivation and lot of time. Okay, having a team might help a bit .

I dont think having a team helps a bit.
Listen to good music, read something inbetween, play some comp-game.
Ask MarlBoroMetal, i think he posted like 20 lines about what to do to keep you going, plus, he's a teacher

he is?

If I get bored of a particular map (well, when I used to map before Steam), I set it aside and create some fun random little multiplayer map to force upon players on my tfc server. I then returned to the other map, tended to give me fresh new ideas too!

I'm sry, I'm probably being ignorant, but, whats steam? Everone always talks about steam. And what does :/ mean, I see it everywhere, even in the http[:/]/ thing.

[Hyper text transmiting protocall]

is that what it means?

steam .. isnt it Cs 1.6 ???

just take a holiday on the beach, then come back and map!

oh btw i will play everyones mods/maps even when HL2 comes out because my computer has an error so i cant play anything past the HL era

Steam is Valve's new way of getting games into your hands ASAP. Games like Half-Life, Counter-Strike, and Counter-Strike Condition Zero are all being made available through Steam.

Steam games are automatically kept up-to-date with the latest content and revisions. Steam also includes an instant-message client which even works while you're in-game.

:/ is the same as :

:// is the end of (some?) protocol types, such as http:// and ftp://

And Steam isn't working.

It's bugged up, and im too chickenish to use it. Even to download it

I always have at least two maps working at any given time, usually different mods. When I run into a problem spot on one I switch to the other. Usually they are for different mods (DM and SP or Sven Co-op), so it changes the way I think about mapping. If that doesn't help I make a mini map to test tricks... build a teleporter that switches destinations, see how many snarks it takes to fill a 128 unit cube, make a "punish-the-scientist" map... something to take your mind off of the trouble map. If I'm still stuck I quit mapping and watch a movie. Unfortunately that can give you even more ideas... I just watched "The Time Machine" and now I want to build the river world in the future. Too many curves and open areas for HL, maybe I'll try it when HL2 is released.

Music makes a big difference too... keep your mind moving. Make sure to mix it up; even if you really like techno slip in a few classical songs, maybe some light jazz. Electronic beats stimulate my brain, but switching from "Dj Dymension" to "English Chamber Orchestra" to "Led Zepplin" keeps things moving in my mind.

It doesn't matter how long it takes to "finish" a map. Do not publish it until you are happy with it. I've been mapping for a couple of years and just published my first map... I simply wasn't satisfied with any of the others. If someone bangs out a map in two hours they didn't put any love into it, any soul, and that's what mapping is all about. I can literally create a world and alter almost any aspect of that world, why settle for a so-so world?

At least that's my two cents,
Craash420

watch TV while mapping.

hey crash420...that avitar...is that from where the wild things are?!

We have already covered that in another forum, and yes, I recognized it because I was scared of that book when I was little. It freaked me out!

"Where the Wild Things Are" is still my favorite book. The pic is from the last page, when he comes home for supper,
"...and it was still hot."

lol i remember that...I read it in Kindergarten!! And there was this book thing too where u dress up as ur fav character from a book and I dressed as Max! (thats his name right?) My gosh that was AGES ago!!

I hardley remember it, I read it sooooo long ago, the oldest mempry I can remember was when I was three, and I broke my brother's dresser.

uhh, back on topic, you can read "Where the wild things are" to get focused on your maps.

I'll try that

That book is pretty freaky for a kids book.

But hey, im back home from a short break with my girl friend and im ready to get mapping.

But this is going to take so long!

Well i guess i'll be back here soon with another problem ive come across... Until then, thanks

Yes, I am.

Wow this is such an old topic.

Yes, it's insanely old. Look at all those great late people, craash, Steinin, jobabob.

Hi, Marl.

Whoa, retro TWHL. Fuck, look at what a noob I was...

I spelt "avatar" with an I!

Hahaha, and two smilies!

Please, delete this thread and let my idiocy die with it...

Aw, craash, the lad that created a few nice richocet maps. Shame he aint around anymore.

No, no way am I deleting this thread. It's a piece of TWHL history. I'm going to save it now, in fact.

Yeah, that?s good. This way you can keep my memory if I?m drunk or something ;).
What happened to Jobabob?. I suppose he doesn?t pop up often... Hey Pepper!!. That?s a surprise!. Maybe I said this before, but I thought you?ve left here!.

I miss some of the old TWHL'ers

pepper sorta left, and then came back. I think jobabob drifted off for good. Steinin's still alive, but very rarely here. craash is gone :(.