1337 H4xX0r Created 18 years ago2006-04-11 11:51:47 UTC by Tosse

Is there any way to make the walls non-shoot-throughable in cs?

I've seen this question come up many times. I don't remember having seen a single answer that always works (if there was something at all). But, maybe multiple walls behind each other or such things have some effect, you're free to try.

Yep.. Put a sequence of 3 or 4 tiny walls (leave a gap between them) ... this will block the bullets...

[edit] Answered at the same time... =]

sounds like it will make a big map lag :/

Yep.. But you can make the walls an entity, to prevent the loss of w_poly...
And them, apply NULL textures at all sides execept the front and back...

[edit] I don't have sure about that, but I think that a NULL side don't block... If somebody knows, let me know the truth...

But you can make the walls an entity, to prevent the loss of w_poly...

Eh?

Tosse, go forth and experiment!

Oh i will! I was just checking if there already is an obvious way to do this.

A func_wall won't block the bullets anymore than a usual solid wall huh?

I don't really play cs, that's why im asking

Bullets will not go through more one brush, right?

So, Make all your walls and such with two brushes.

OR!!!

Copy everthing, and paste it right back over the origional spot.

bullets can go through several walls..

and the M249 can rip through a wall 32 units thick

BL, does that really work? The last one

Don't do it.

Anyway, nobody's ever posted a conclusive answer in my memory, so you're not going to have much luck. Go and try it, and please, let us know what you work out!

heh, I was kidding Sir Monkey...

Tosse, don't do what I said.

is there a clip brush type entity that blocks bulletts? or is that just a monster clip

Tosse: Check This Thread. It gives multilple methods that all seem plausible.

Of all the methods mentioned, the easiest imo is to make your bulletproof wall a func_button, with:

Health: Set to a very high number
Delay before reset: 0.01
"Don't Move" flag: <checked>

Let us know what you come up with

<rowleybob senses a new example map coming...>

That button thing didn't work =(

I tryed to make a func_breakable and set it on "trigger_only" It worked, but not if the wall was to thin so i guess it didn't work either. But making very thin walls and place then close to each other worked, but that would create lag on bigger maps...

Did you try the other methods in the thread like having uncompiled space 'tween two walls, or the three-wall one?

Someone should create a new entity "func_bulletblock"...

No i haven't had the time yet, and you need to be two people to test it :/

There probably is one in Source.

ah source... I like the HL1 enige better, it's more of a challange to make a map look good and to get it to run well... And there are less options in the entity part so there is more problem solving, like now!

I know how to make a wall block a bullet from any gun, but that either makes the wall too thick or making a big map lag, and im currently working on a kind of big map, so it would lag... If it already doesn't that is.

There probably is one in Source.

Source has a 'bulletblock' texture that'll do the job, but since it's 1.6 your mapping for, that isn't realy a possibility.

just wondering, but does the Sky texture block bullets? if it did, you could put it in those walls that should be bullet proof.

And that would create lag

No i haven't had the time yet, and you need to be two people to test it :/

Can't you use hosties to test the bulletproofing?

Anyway, you've peaked my interest with this whole thing, so I'm going to start some tests regarding this, and I'll let you know what I come up with.

I've actually experimented with this. Just as long as your walls are double layered, that is two brushes, bullets won't go through. As long as there is only one brush, bullets will go through. I've tried this by making a 256 unit thick wall and putting a hostage behind it. The Desert Eagle and all the rifles shot through it, but split it in half, and it blocks.

Just as long as your walls are double layered, that is two brushes, bullets won't go through.

Totally untrue. I tried that method, and varied it using multiple walls at various thicknesses and distances from the next wall.

I think in older versions of CS that method worked, because I've found tons of forums saying it works. Unfortunately, it doesn't

I tried about a dozen other methods listed in the link from the VERC Collective, but the AWP defeated them all.

edit: Most of the methods listed in that VERC Collective thread--but certainly not all--will stop regular assault rifle fire, and of course all submachine guns, and pistols. However, I didn't test the auto snipers nor Deagle and again, NONE of them stop the AWP.

Should also be noted that while the AWP always penetrates, it does less damage than normal--you can hit hosties multiple times without killing them.

Well, it ain't that big a problem if the awp bullets get's trough the wall, that could be realistic, i don't know how "strong" the AWP is in real life but i've heard a big share of storys. But i managed to make a not to thick wall stop a AWP bullet. I don't remember how thick it was, not too thick, kind of like a real wall (the ones used outside buildings, not in them). I make the brush a func_breakable and made it trigger only. it worked fine, and so did the "func_wall" in that matter, and the func_button. But i couldn't make them any thinner, that made the AWP go trough. and i use the AWP to test the walls, them im really sure what the results are.

well i this isn't a permanant solution but make the bunker under ground make a short tunnel down to it so it isnt touching the ground and there theonly waythey can hit them is by going down. If you want a door make the tunnel L shaped with a door at the end og the vertical part! hope it works

Oh yeah you're right, my method only worked in pre-1.6 cs. Can't think of any other way honestly.

i managed to make a not to thick wall stop a AWP bullet.

I just tested your "trigger only func_wall" and made it 64 units thick and it doesn't stop rifle fire, let alone awp.

Please post an example or more details. I've just built a new test map this. I'm going to try lots of different things and add deagles and auto's to the fold.

Results soon.

edit: AWP, Scout Sniper, and Autos--all snipers apparently-- will penetrate any number of walls, regardless of thickness, and space between walls, at least as far as I have tested.

Update: Bulletproof CS!

Gaze and be amazed by the size and sheer strength

edit: Beating a dead horse here, but I've made a rather important discovery.

The texture of the brush-based entity you're using is very important in terms of it's "bulletproofness".

For example, with a Crate texture, you only need 4 walls to stop the AWP, while with a glass texture, you need 11!

Updating map again to showcase effect.