Commented 13 years ago2011-01-15 20:32:59 UTCComment #57240
No, it's like.. basically having a radio streamed on the internet. Giving reviews, making jokes, dedications from members...
Actually it could be a video podcast, and it would be really easy to make thematic tutorials, or reviews. Although a video podcast consumes more bandwidth, it'd be more informative.
Commented 13 years ago2011-01-16 07:24:49 UTCComment #57242
I don't understand Dimbark, we haven't even discussed if this will be implemented or not, and you already made a livestream? Please, Dimbark, don't be upset, but we need someone with a good... radio voice. Your voice is not suited for that yet. And I know you like to help, but stay calm for now.
potatis_invalid.. ehhh. I'm not saying I am doing this. If we are to do this, we should each make an audio test with a phrase here on TWHL to see who has the best voice, and preferably somebody who can also review maps. I may have a low-pitch voice, but it's hard for me to clearly and fluently speak english. And I don't have the experience, say... Huntey has at reviewing maps.
We could, though, "share the programme"(just an example: Coding HL with Jeffmod, The art of mapping with RimrookReview of the week with Huntey etc... And the hours must be something that is good for everybody. Because when it's evening for me, it's morning for some of you and viceversa.
There is also a nice little copyright right below me...I think it reads...
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Commented 13 years ago2011-01-16 12:46:38 UTCComment #57243
Not exactly radio tutorials. You see, when I was talking about a podcast, I wasn't really meaning ONLY radio. A video podcast can be done as well.
Let me give another example:Today we play and review a random map from the map vault! That would be just wonderful, because all the maps submited would not be just forgotten.
I really look forward into seeing a video podcast. We don't need to make it 24\7, 2-3 hours or even 1 is probably enough.
-We have to be able to share the podcast( 3-4 members that can have different programmes). -We all have to agree on an convenient hour so most of TWHLers can watch. I suggest 19:00 Greenwich time. -The podcast should( must) be archived, so if we miss it, we can rewatch it.
A podcast could just make this community a lot more lively, and encourage to learn how to make better maps.
Commented 13 years ago2011-01-16 13:23:08 UTCComment #57233
Archie's 2 cents:
A pre-recorded vlog from several hosts is, in my opinion, far more challenging logistically to produce for the following reasons. First and foremost - it means one person is stuck with editing several people's footage and awkward, pre-recorded audio. Not only is this a pain in the ass to edit, but also the seemingly simple task of getting this media to the editor will be a challenge due to predictably high file-sizes. A further problem is that Americans will be recording with NTSC 29.9fps while most of the rest of the world uses the PAL 25fps system. Frame dimensions also differ between the two, resulting in more grief during the post production process.
Also, on Steam you were saying you just want pre-recorded screen-captured footage with voice-over? This will be dead boring with dead robotic sounding audio. See any of the early TWHL motm reviews for an example of how boring it can be.
Your original idea, I think, is much more interesting and probably much more entertaining. Several hosts being recorded live (audio at least, although I think it would benefit from some webcam face-time) with footage of the map/mod in question being cut into it at relevant moments will result in far more humorous dialogue and far more relevant information being conveyed during the reviewing portion, as there would be a live point;counter-point scenario (one person makes a point, another can say why they disagree/agree.) This makes reviews much more balanced and relevant.
Further benefits would be that if one person is recording everyone, we don't have the issue of varying video formats, and if the person recording is the person editing, we also don't have to worry about transferring massive files.
It could still be presented as a 'TWHL Weekly' - there's no need to use a livestream or anything, but the format of a live show is far more engaging to viewers - even if they're only watching a recording of it - than any simple scripted voice-over would be.
edit: I think I gave you 5 cents too many.
editedit:
Think of it like Top Gear. The show is awesome because of the banter between the hosts. It has some recorded voice-over over footage of the cars being reviewed, of course, but if it was just that, nobody would watch it.
Commented 13 years ago2011-01-16 21:19:19 UTCComment #57230
A simple podcast could be kind of fun! Pretty easy to produce as well, bring in a couple of guys on skype or whatever, have some topics lined up - talk about a few maps, some mapping techniques, whatever - hit record, done.
I like the idea, though I wouldn't be able to use it for a while.
Giving reviews, making jokes, dedications from members...
Actually it could be a video podcast, and it would be really easy to make thematic tutorials, or reviews. Although a video podcast consumes more bandwidth, it'd be more informative.
Please...
Besides, I already made the livestream.
http://www.livestream.com/twhlcommentary?t=666201
Please, Dimbark, don't be upset, but we need someone with a good... radio voice. Your voice is not suited for that yet. And I know you like to help, but stay calm for now.
potatis_invalid.. ehhh. I'm not saying I am doing this. If we are to do this, we should each make an audio test with a phrase here on TWHL to see who has the best voice, and preferably somebody who can also review maps. I may have a low-pitch voice, but it's hard for me to clearly and fluently speak english. And I don't have the experience, say... Huntey has at reviewing maps.
We could, though, "share the programme"(just an example: Coding HL with Jeffmod, The art of mapping with Rimrook Review of the week with Huntey etc... And the hours must be something that is good for everybody. Because when it's evening for me, it's morning for some of you and viceversa.
GOOOOD TIME OF DAY TWHL!!!!!!
@Dimbark: Did you even ask before you started this little venture?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property
There is also a nice little copyright right below me...I think it reads...
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All member-submitted resources copyright their respective authors unless otherwise specified.
I would be livid....
1. Radio tutorials? How is that going to work?
2. Dimbark (no offense, but you are one of the least experienced members on TWHL)
Let me give another example:Today we play and review a random map from the map vault! That would be just wonderful, because all the maps submited would not be just forgotten.
I really look forward into seeing a video podcast. We don't need to make it 24\7, 2-3 hours or even 1 is probably enough.
-We have to be able to share the podcast( 3-4 members that can have different programmes).
-We all have to agree on an convenient hour so most of TWHLers can watch. I suggest 19:00 Greenwich time.
-The podcast should( must) be archived, so if we miss it, we can rewatch it.
A podcast could just make this community a lot more lively, and encourage to learn how to make better maps.
A pre-recorded vlog from several hosts is, in my opinion, far more challenging logistically to produce for the following reasons.
First and foremost - it means one person is stuck with editing several people's footage and awkward, pre-recorded audio. Not only is this a pain in the ass to edit, but also the seemingly simple task of getting this media to the editor will be a challenge due to predictably high file-sizes.
A further problem is that Americans will be recording with NTSC 29.9fps while most of the rest of the world uses the PAL 25fps system. Frame dimensions also differ between the two, resulting in more grief during the post production process.
Also, on Steam you were saying you just want pre-recorded screen-captured footage with voice-over? This will be dead boring with dead robotic sounding audio. See any of the early TWHL motm reviews for an example of how boring it can be.
Your original idea, I think, is much more interesting and probably much more entertaining. Several hosts being recorded live (audio at least, although I think it would benefit from some webcam face-time) with footage of the map/mod in question being cut into it at relevant moments will result in far more humorous dialogue and far more relevant information being conveyed during the reviewing portion, as there would be a live point;counter-point scenario (one person makes a point, another can say why they disagree/agree.)
This makes reviews much more balanced and relevant.
Further benefits would be that if one person is recording everyone, we don't have the issue of varying video formats, and if the person recording is the person editing, we also don't have to worry about transferring massive files.
It could still be presented as a 'TWHL Weekly' - there's no need to use a livestream or anything, but the format of a live show is far more engaging to viewers - even if they're only watching a recording of it - than any simple scripted voice-over would be.
edit: I think I gave you 5 cents too many.
editedit:
Think of it like Top Gear. The show is awesome because of the banter between the hosts. It has some recorded voice-over over footage of the cars being reviewed, of course, but if it was just that, nobody would watch it.
http://www.qfpost.com/download.do?get=95ed694473b64ba58254b9890d568987
Here's how it's done:
TWHL Podcast Beta