Journal #7649
Posted 12 years ago2012-02-28 02:19:46 UTC
I fucking hate dubstep.
Try to convince me that dubstep is good.
I'll listen to your songs and I'll tell you if you have converted me.
Edit: Well that was a learning experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg
Try to convince me that dubstep is good.
I'll listen to your songs and I'll tell you if you have converted me.
Edit: Well that was a learning experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg
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Examples of stuff I like, and stuff I've posted in the Now Playing thread:
Feed Me - Trichitillomania ( http://grooveshark.com/s/Trichitillomania/4tzCRO?src=5 )
Zomboy's entire Game Time EP ( http://grooveshark.com/album/Game+Time+EP/6706990 )
What other kind of music do you actually like?
I think dubstep is a little too intense for someone who has a pink cartoon pony as his avatar.
Ok so I listened to Trichitillomania (I used to have that) and... it's wasn't dubstep. It didn't have that fucking annoying bass.
But as I pointed out in the shoutbox, you're 14. You'll learn to like stuff when you get older, champ.
My type is... this, this, and this.
I was being literal - dubstep is literally too intense for someone who likes a cartoon with a target demographic of pre-teen girls.
There's no reasoning with people like you.
Edit: You also have some nerve, calling Archie narrow minded when you are outright insisting that one of the broadest genres of music today has no merit.
But lately I've read people classifying some of my favourite soundtracks (like Unreal Tournament 1-3) as having strong dubstep elements, when I've always thought of them as just blanket electronica or minimal drum and bass.
So yeah, I'm kind of confused. It seems like it's something that really recently surged in popularity, and now a lot of older things are "it" by definition? Or am I totally wrong about that?
When I think "dubstep" I do really tend to think of the awful stuff, but I realise I'm pretty ignorant on the stuff.
And yes. gldsrcforever is definitly the closed-minded one here.
"I'll listen to your songs and I'll tell you if you have converted me."
You can't judge a song by one listening, especially if you believe you hate it before you even listen to it. You've got to listen a couple of times, possibly in the background of something you're focusing on more, 'til you pick up on the little things hidden in the music you didn't hear at first. THEN judge it.
If you really could be converted by something the first time you hear it, there'd be no religion.
Traditional dubstep sticks to the oldest roots of dubstep--that includes influences from jungle (the predecessor of DnB), reggae, and 2-step hip hop. The focus is on a complex 2-step drum beat and a melodic bassline, but there might not actually be a clearly defined melody--the focus is on rhythm over melody. It's very relaxed, sometimes to the point of being ambient. Wobble is also significantly less prevalent, but might still be present.
Some popular examples:
Vex'd - Fallen Remix (original by Distance)
Shackleton - Blood on my Hands
Sukh Knight - Diesel Not Petrol
Notice the complex drums and basslines and how they form rhythms of their own, without being dependent on an overlying melody. Any midrange or treble just supplements the drums and bassline.
Some of the bigger names in this area are Skream, Distance, Martyn, and Digital Mystikz.
"Brostep," as it's come to be called, is the harder side of dubstep that's emerged since producers started taking influences from harder DnB genres like neurofunk. Think Skrillex, Rusko, or even Bassnectar. Like traditional, we're still looking at a 2-step drum pattern with an emphasis on heavy basslines, but the focus is more on melody than rhythm--drums are usually going to be much simpler(like just a bass drum on beat 1 and a snare on beat 3). The actual bassline might just be a sub-bass compliment to a midrange or treble melody. Sludgey sounds, mechanical sounds, screechy sounds, and other sound styles are very popular.
Some popular examples:
Downlink - Gamma Ray
Flux Pavilion - Gold Dust Remix (original by DJ Fresh)
Rusko - Woo Boost
Notice the simpler drums and basslines in favor of clearly defined melodies. Also notice how the bassline is usually just the melody toned down a few octaves.
Some of the bigger names in this area are Skrillex, Datsik, Downlink, Excision, and Rusko.
Those are two extremes, of course. Obviously it gets more complex, but you get the gist.
THE MORE YOU KNOW!
HOWEVER I won't argue that too many people insist on calling every single song ever "dubstep." These are the same people that think a wobble makes a song dubstep by default, even when it clearly isn't dubstep.
The very last section of the Wikipedia page actually says exactly what I said about "brostep." Funny.
I have to admit I'm completely lost when trying to categorize music. I only think in very broad genres, and always assumed dubstep to be it's own small, noisy beast. I like being a chillout man because all a song has to do is make me relax, and I'll say it fits the term.
Out of curiosity, do any of these songs really fit the bill, or are people just grasping at straws? I couldn't properly check those songs at work (no sound), but I think they're some of the more hectic tunes from the games.
I like this kind of music mostly. Its nice and enjoyable.
When im working on something, either some techno/house or metal or disco.
But i listen to all types of music, depending on how i feel at the moment.
The other two are some kind of breakbeat, not quite DnB because they're too slow and there's absolutely no emphasis on bass. I'm not very well-versed in subgenres of breakbeat, though.
There's no elements that are unique to dubstep in any of those, though. And if anyone is saying there is, slap them with a fish.
AFTR; I do like dubstep sometimes but not all the time and never on sundays.
I've listened to those samples, and I don't mind the Distance Remix at all, that stuff is pretty light and kind of hypnotizing. Diesel not Petrol though, sounds like it belongs with the other brostep samples (except for the slower pace), really not my thing. I guess I need to train myself to pick up on the intricacies of this music, but those really generic screechy and distortion sounds brostep seems to use really get to me. I think they ruined that song Urby just posted, which I was enjoying until about the minute mark.
Chased down the original version of Falling and didn't mind that either. Seems there's a very fine line between the types of dubstep I can listen to, but you've made a distinction for me. I have an idea where I should be looking now, thanks!
Interesting.