Journal #8085

Posted 11 years ago2013-01-13 14:55:40 UTC
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Look at this, some guy PM'ing me on ModDB requesting all the rmf source files of my Uplink Extended mod:
User posted image
Links to the screenshots:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=71288548
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=71394356
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=71395207
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=73024575
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=90208798
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=73035227
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=73035357
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=90315969
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=90439834
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=98026872

Judging by one of the comments on one of those screenshots:
[b]Seriously rose, enough of your pointless trolling. if you think you are so good, prove it. otherwise you are just showing everyone how much trash you are.[/b], it seems it's pretty clear this guy is not what he seems to be, this looks like a total scam to me.

Should I decline his request?

24 Comments

Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 15:53:09 UTC Comment #38611
Most definitely.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 16:00:21 UTC Comment #38621
Yeah.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 16:19:45 UTC Comment #38616
Do you have any reason not to release the rmfs?
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 16:23:23 UTC Comment #38613
I can't really tell what's going on but his work looks legit? Would HL:S run in garry's mod natively or with a little entity hacking?
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 17:15:20 UTC Comment #38604
I know nothing about Garry's Mod so i don't know, but what he shows to me are just HL1 levels loaded into GM.

I put a lot of work in Uplink Extended and i don't want to just give away all the rmfs to people for them to use the their mods. I'm willing to share parts of the areas in my mod to people but only if they can show their work is legit, as in, made by themselves in Hammer. Those screenshots don't show any of that.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 17:19:17 UTC Comment #38622
Woah! HE MUST BE A GOOD MAPPER IF HE MADE THE HL MAPS FOR VALVE

I SHUD SUBMIT MY MAPS 2 VALVE N I CAN MAKE HL3 IN LIEK A CUPLE OF DAYZ
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 17:24:51 UTC Comment #38612
I don't see anything to suggest he HAS any work, let alone that he should have access to anyone else's.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 17:38:32 UTC Comment #38605
Exactly my point, Scotch.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 19:24:02 UTC Comment #38620
he's in the 4chan steam group... tells u something doesnt it
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 20:42:56 UTC Comment #38617
Just politely decline, at least until he can produce actual material.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 21:33:02 UTC Comment #38607
Did you release the maps themselves? If he wants them so badly surely he could just decompile them.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 22:18:57 UTC Comment #38615
That looks dubious.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-13 22:45:55 UTC Comment #38609
If it was me, I'd release the sources. Not just to this guy, but to everybody under a Creative Commons license. But then I'm a huge fan of open source.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 00:31:11 UTC Comment #38618
Can I get TWHL's backend code?
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 01:21:55 UTC Comment #38623
Can I get the US Military's password documentation?
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 02:14:30 UTC Comment #38610
No you can't Stu, because:
1. I'm not proud of it, and
2. I'm hosting TWHL on my own server and don't want to expose any of the potential security risks that are almost certainly to be in there.
I am, however, hosting the framework that will be behind TWHL4 on my website.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 03:01:21 UTC Comment #38624
Will TWHL4 be out by HL3?
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 07:44:11 UTC Comment #38619
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 18:11:23 UTC Comment #38614
I would say if you have plans on re-using the maps in a new mod one day, keep the rmfs private, otherwise, i don't really see any reason to hold them back, personal preferences aside.

Source on the other hand i always release the source now if someone asks, since BSPSource does such a perfect job decompiling, you may as well.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 19:54:37 UTC Comment #38603
So you asked for examples of his work, and he sends you Garry's Mod screenshots of Half Life maps?

I'd tell him to fuck off. He's insulting you by posting screenshots of Half Life, so as far as I'm concerned being as rude as possible is fair game.

You don't need to deal with potentially chasing this guy down if he tries to pass your work off as his. That's an inconvenience you could live without, and you don't have any obligations to this guy in the first place.

@Captain: Yes, Half Life Source maps will run under Gmod.

Edit: If there's any doubt left at all, ask him for Hammer screenshots.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 20:19:57 UTC Comment #38606
Will do.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-14 21:05:11 UTC Comment #38626
He can just decompile the .bsp files from half life source i don't see why do you need to ask him for hammer screenshots.

Just say NO
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-17 11:28:36 UTC Comment #38625
Uh... No sir, that's a really dodgey message, you can look at it in the fist glance and tell sum tin wong. Don't do it! He steal, even if its a small file and it may seem as though it won't matter, to me, if he did that, it would matter A LOT to meh.
Commented 11 years ago2013-01-27 04:23:42 UTC Comment #38608
I thought PMs were supposed to be private.

At least tell him about BspTwoMap so that he can learn more about VHE and your maps as well... So that he can improve.. if he was ever willing to. I suppose, that is the right thing to do.

I apologize if my comment is a bit late, I just.. I don't know.. He doesn't seem to have much ulterior motives. Or perhaps, I'm just too soft on the matter.

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