Bye Internet Explorer

Posted 2 weeks ago2020-06-16 18:33:35 UTC
REBELVODKA REBELVODKAGET OUT OF HERE!
Already 6/14/2020 or 6/15/2020 (I can't remember) I decided stop using Internet explorer as a navigator by reason was very obsolete. I started use it a far time ago to see if was true people said about it (was really bad basically) and for me worked really fine, better than Chrome.

I'll miss it. But now I started use Firefox, which is fine too.

15 Comments

Commented 2 weeks ago2020-06-16 18:39:00 UTC Comment #102749
Welcome to firefox-ism! :D
Commented 2 weeks ago2020-06-16 18:40:18 UTC Comment #102750
I tried it too time ago (firefox) and was nice surfing on net with it ;)
Commented 2 weeks ago2020-06-17 05:44:28 UTC Comment #102751
Edge is Chrome based.
Commented 2 weeks ago2020-06-19 03:20:21 UTC Comment #102752
I find it's not as slow as it used to be, it holds up well to most modern browsers speed-wise, but it's still buggy with most sites. I don't think IE supports extensions either. good riddance, firefox and tor forever
Commented 2 weeks ago2020-06-19 17:50:55 UTC Comment #102753
Internet Explorer huh? I don't think I've used that since I started working in web development. :P

This twitter account that depicts web browsers as anime girls makes me laugh though. :D
Commented 2 weeks ago2020-06-20 04:39:46 UTC Comment #102756
To this day iE is still used for renewing smart card certificates and work with sensitive documents used in Banking, Medical and Government facilities , at least from what I see here in Serbia. I also used it heavily during my faculty days and would have continued to do so if Youtube didnt make it obsolete along side slow rendering of Java and all the other junk they have on web pages today (HTML 1.0 ftw).
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-20 09:54:33 UTC Comment #102757
"and all the other junk they have on web pages today"
Never a sentence was so true.

About UrbanNebula said about that twitter comic, so true with IE comic :b
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-22 11:55:18 UTC Comment #102764
firefox is useless bloatware garbage
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-22 16:49:52 UTC Comment #102765
On Chrome, all downloads seem to fail for me, lol.
I used Vivaldi for a while, which was cool but then YouTube broke while it worked on other browsers fine. Unacceptable. Downloads also stopped showing after a while and I had to clear my download list.
Never used Edge, never will. Same goes for Opera, Safari etc.
Privacy is something I don't really care about. I'm 100% fine with companies knowing everything about me, so I ain't gonna judge any browser by privacy-related things.

Firefox is pretty decent. It has served me for YEARS, and it will.
I don't have to update it, it'll work just fine. I don't see how it's garbage, I don't see how it's useless (it displays webpages so it clearly has a use), and I don't see how it's bloatware.

So yeah, that statement of yours is mostly invalid.
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-22 17:46:08 UTC Comment #102766
it takes a few hundred MB ram to display a simple html page. What is this madness? Back in the day the entire OS would run on 256MB just fine and youtube on top of that. Now that is unacceptable. And it's good to know you don't have to update it because the last time i installed firefox on windows, updates were impossible to turn off and you had to keep declining them every 5 minutes.
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-22 20:08:54 UTC Comment #102767
They need the extra system requirements in order to monetize hyper production , back in the day a 3D polygonal game such as Unreal Tournament ran on 200MHz and 32Megs of RAM and had great movement, aim and collision precision, and the graphics were pretty rad too (still are). Excuses? None.
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-22 22:21:20 UTC Comment #102768
"it takes a few hundred MB ram to display a simple html page. What is this madness?"
There's an engine that processes HTML and CSS code. Then there's an engine that executes JavaScript code. Then there's cached data which is loaded into memory for faster access. Then there are all the libraries and APIs that a browser will use. I wouldn't be surprised.

If only one of those were missing, your websites would either reload completely every time you visit them, or they would look like a badly formatted Word document, or they would lag a lot, or they would look like a plain text file. The crazy ecosystem of web development brought up these standards so browsers have to support them. And that carries a price to pay.

The fact that bad web developers exist also doesn't make things any better. Penguinboy is, of course, a big exception otherwise TWHL4 (and TWHL3) wouldn't exist in any good shape.
"Back in the day the entire OS would run on 256MB just fine and youtube on top of that."
Way back in the day, an entire OS and browser could run on 64MB and YouTube didn't exist. A decade before that, you could connect to a mainframe with your terminal which had 64KB of RAM. Where's your point?

Back in the day, I had a 2007 laptop with just 2GB of RAM and it ran Firefox fine. This is 2020 and frankly, a few hundred MB isn't much. Save up some money, upgrade your system, what else can I tell you? Or, program your own browser and make it the most lightweight thing ever. All webpages are gonna look like they're from 1995, lmao.
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-23 05:03:59 UTC Comment #102769
Its not about the upgrade or the way things would look, its about the principle of operation that all these things fall under. In 2009 I had an Toshiba laptop with Pentum II and 256MB of RAM. I could watch youtube and browse the internet with out any problems. Back in the day, in the 90s, an plain looking HTML website could have had an active chatbox or even highly complex web pages so thats not an excuse. ActiveX was powerful.
All webpages are gonna look like they're from 1995, lmao.
TWHL3 was a classic example of a 90s web page and no one complained.

You probably dont remember because you were younger, but there was just as much multimedia content on the web back then as there is today, only it was distributes as Macromedia flash, gifs, avi videos, etc.

It is lack of talent, patience and will to make something polished and correct that brought to this, that is, the love for money overshadowed all of the rest.
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-23 12:57:21 UTC Comment #102770
Thing is, nowadays most people want things to look beautiful, and the technology behind that is way below optimal in terms of performance.
Also, JavaScript. A language that got hacked together in two weeks and had nothing to do with Java itself, but was named like that because it'd get popular that way. Curse JavaScript. It is why I avoid web development and will always avoid it, until the day when I can do both the frontend and backend entirely in something like C.

And the thing is, then you got a wave of developers thinking "oh, hardware is getting better and better, we don't have to worry about making things run that well on current hardware", but also developers who are there for the money, which is basically the same thing as you've just said.

In the real world, the average user of a website cares if it works and it's a plus if it looks good. In March, when some company launched an online school platform in Bosnia, the only thing our teachers would say, whenever the website went down, or whenever there was an error, is "it doesn't work", "it's broken" and such. They didn't know how much RAM their browser was occupying when that website was loaded and didn't care, because the only other program they had opened at the time was probably Zoom or a browser tab in Facebook.

I think most of them (web developers and browser developers) will never care about people like us.
Commented 1 week ago2020-06-23 19:31:51 UTC Comment #102771
The beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People foremost want things to be functional for the actions they will commit. Technology now days is extremely versatile and powerful, it is junk software, microcomputer program, that is lacking.

A 400MHz DSP microchip (Middle class , from 2010) with 64Megs of RAM can decode an 192kHz 24Bit resolution FLAC file, run Linux, operate a network connection both wired and wireless, decode an incoming multichannel audio stream, access an 1TB+ NTFS partition and operate an steady control and communication of all the audio i/o as well as communication with the main microcomputer all at the same time. How? Thanks to properly written software to utilize all that.

Hardware is light years ahead of what was 20 years ago all in the hands of an average person , while on the other hand even with newer more powerful development environments software is still falling behind and it is increasing hyper production with addition of planned obsolescence that mostly contributed to that , but the real reason is "secured money" and nothing else.

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