Xen Assault [HL1] Created 19 years ago2005-04-25 05:08:27 UTC by Sajo

when do you think xen assault will be done? (i can't wait)

In about 365 days!

when do you think xen assault will be done? (i can't wait)

Xen Assault alpha had been released 4 months ago but it was crap,so I deleted everything and re-started as you can see the screenshots.

Beta will be released in spring
And full version will be avaible in summer.

p.s:I was playing cod2 these days,I think I've got great ideas about the war scenes in Xen Assault

This
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Sacit/xenassaultscre2.jpg
for some reason looks amazing to me. If thats not a rendered screenshot then you've created some seriously awesome light effects. Not just the beams.

wow, that is a very nice screenshot, tobad I can't see where the beams coming from.

Looking good Saco!

Average at best.

Could use better artitecture but still, the lightning is great.

Looks nice, but still a bit boxy. And don't Scale Up Poke646 textures - that's criminal!

That Eating thing looks just nasty... More Blood on the walls and floor!

This

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/S
acit/xenassaultscre2.jpg

for some reason looks amazing to me. If thats not a rendered screenshot then you've created some seriously awesome light effects. Not just the beams.

thx for noticing,no,all done by mapping

but still a bit boxy

chokes kol*

New screenshots:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Sacit/xenassaultscre6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Sacit/xenassaultscre5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Sacit/xenassaultscre4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Sacit/xenassaultscre3.jpg

Lightning is great but it's still very very boxy! Try adding better artitecture.

That texture you used for the light beams that come out of the cracks is awsome! I should try and make one like that...

Edit:

Did you use the 'sunbeam' texture?

Did you use the 'sunbeam' texture?

No I used one of the generic textures, the light blue one.And
FX amount:5

still very very boxy

Ever seen a warehouse with rounded walls?

They don't have to be rounded but still a bit more artitecture would do wonders!

Ever seen a warehouse with rounded walls?

Just because a warehouse is square in real-life doesn't mean that it has to be in a game world. de_train for CS:S is a prime example.

He doesn't have Cs. Why don't add some suspension beams for example!

Yep.

He doesn't have Cs. Why don't add some suspension beams for example!

I have CS,and I'm a good CS player probably x4 better than you,according to your HL DM frags...

What is suspension beam? you mean env_beam?Just dont talk puzzled !and do not use wink smile too much.Its weird.. :

Ohh...damn it...sorry. You just aren't a Cs mapper then? : (I just thought that cause you didn't know CS didn't have scripts)

Opens up a huge dictionary and searches for suspension beam

just thought that cause you didn't know CS didn't have scripts)

I know what you thought ,but I just dont map for CS ,I only play it thats cause why I failed at CS dead_monster scripting.

Beam: a long piece of wood/metal ect used in buildings

Suspend: to hang something up

Sorry I have a rather losy dictionary...

there is suspension beams! Look carefully! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Sacit/xenassaultscre5.jpg
and now do not use nervous smile too much.

I knew my dictionary is horrible. I'll post a screeni then...

Edit:P.S: they don't have to be in the middle of the room and the roof can be a bit rounded in some places.

haha I don't find it looks blocky, It suits the atmosphere...

although.. try rescaling the texture in this photo.. it will make it appear more real. Yep so decrease the size of the texture
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Sacit/xenassaultscre6.jpg

These: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/Sacit/xenassaultscre5.jpg
Make the fades a lot lighter, perhaps, FX Amount 40, or 60.. just enough that you can barely see it..

anywhos looking good!

Saco that's pure blockyness..
Try adding more detail, some trims, supports for the corridors..
Detail usually draws the players' attention away from the blocky architecture..

what kind of support in a small corridor?That your head nearly hits the ceiling?No,I think wires and lighting would make it forgotable for the player.Walk in your home for a while ,look at your corridors and walls carefully ...Do you see any metal gigantic,wooden,pipe supports?or any metal,wooden trim ? Dont think so (if its not ZL's home)

god damnit ...I ll only edit to ichyossaur blockyness...

Aw just play azure sheep.. :
I'm not talking bout gigantic stuff, dude.

Hallways can be a bit blocky at times and square area's aren't really a problem, some real places are awefully square. What I think makes maps feel blocky is long, monotome surfaces. A few decals to break up their repetetiveness can do good, some small objects placed on such a surface now and then can make it more interesting too.

Those lightbeams look too bright, bytheway. You'll only see such beams when there's dust or smoke in the air and then spotlights would have this the most, not really such lamps that you see in such hallways. A glow would fit better but don't overuse those, either. Light beams and glows have a high 'looking-good' factor but they're easily overused or overdone which kills their effectiveness.

Wires are a good idea here. Non-solid they shouldn't get in the way but a few of them could look really nice.

That screenshot with the red light in the background and the lightbeam coming through the wall looks best, I think. A subtle light beam, some light glowing in the back... looks good.
The underwater screenshot doesn't look that good on the other hand, most striking is the bright water versus the dark environment. Those two don't fit with each other. It looks quite square too though I can't see much in it...

Good luck mapping bytheway.

Just an example...it's from my compo entery's second level, I had an allocblock:full error but my brother helped be by that he said the doors in the scanner room doesn't have to have windows! And cause of that I don't have to include the corridor that leads to that room in the first level. This is the storeage room for the biolabs.

Looking good saco!

Dont be discouraged by people saying "its too blocky" I know what you mean when you are talking about real life examples (when was the last time any of you say a room with support beams?).

But still a little more detail couldnt hurt, I like the light beams, I think they look great - Remember also this is a game so you can afford to drop some bits of realism for cool effects. Heart of Darkness did it (and also HOD is cube city and its successful).

I look foward to playing this.

Heart of Darkness did it (and also HOD is cube city and its successful).

Its actually Heart Of Evil (HOE)

Dont be discouraged by people saying "its too blocky"

Dont worry,They ll see that its not bad after all when they play it.

I look foward to playing this.Looking good saco

Thx

I ll try to be more carefull about architecture

btw:http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/307/trims0tf.jpg
thats ...erm ..kinda bad @elon
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It's not finished! And it's in hammer. Also it's my first high tech map and it's only a one level room. :

Edit:

Damn it does suck!! I think I'll get rid of those arches. Thanks saco.

I think I'll get rid of those arches.

No you're not! Don't delete them. Aches make it more interesting. What is the problem anyway?

sometimes curved walls look cool.

see these pictures for ideas, also notice how I used my arches

http://twhl.co.za/forums.php?pgt=2&action=viewthread&id=9541&pg=1

Yeah I know I was inspierd by you,unbreakable! It's nice for a hallway but for a room I think I'll just keep the upper parts as support beams.

That's awesome, unb!
It's sad to see the cruddy texture lighting ruin such a beautiful hallway..

New Screenshot and a 800x600 wallpaper

Anyone who is a Mod DB member can see the latest updates of Xen Assault...Press watch this mod in at Mod DB to see the updates.

Not bad.. The screenie with the zombie reminds me of nova prospekt..
Makes me feel all warm inside.
Not bad, Saco.
Although the wallpaper... Meh.. I won't start a fight again

Although the wallpaper... Meh.. I won't start a fight again

too ordinary isnt it?I do not fancy wallpapers much so well,I just wanted to have at least 1 wallpaper.

Unbreakable: Submerged eh? Lovely pack.

Saco: Ugly as hell. Both pictures.

Saco: Ugly as hell. Both pictures.

Haha, when I saw Zombieloffe had posted, I just knew he would say they were crap because well they are but nothing seems good to him.

Saco: Ugly as hell. Both pictures

sry,ZL I would like to annoy you too but I'm too busy these days.What do you really think of the pics?(honestly)

great pics!!!!

First pic: Plain ugly. White clouds aren't always good. Weird-ass angle.

Second: Undetailed, boring, ugly glows.

I can't say you've been very friendly lately, ZL, but about those images, I agree.

The light beam is too strong. Subtle beams work better sometimes (or perhaps, most of the times). That foggy sprite is nice (though a more subtle approach is better here, too), but it's hiding some ugly texturing (a wall shouldn't look like a section of support beams). Apart from that, the screenshot shows little.

As for the wallpaper, I think it's ok. But I believe it's better to work on your levels some more rather than creating wallpapers because every mod tends to do so these days.

but it's hiding some ugly texturing (a wall shouldn't look like a section of support beams

what??
Its a room-wall texture?whats wrong with it?

better to work on your levels some more rather than creating wallpapers

Nobody,maps just to make a wallpaper heard about copy-paste?

The closest hole to where you took the pic from doesnt really go with the other one i think, should be shaped a bit more like the top one, but thats just my appinion

For most of the screenshots I've seen with the light rays shooting down, I think you should back off a bit maybe. What those rays entail is that the air is foggy and the light is shining on it, but the air doesn't look that foggy. Don't make them so intense. Just imo

Harmonica.

What those rays entail is that the air is foggy and the light is shining on it, but the air doesn't look that foggy. Don't make them so intense. Just imo

Seconded. With that sort of sharp beam, I wouldn't expect to be able to make out the source at the ceiling, I'd expect fog to obscure it.

Nice to see you around so much all of a sudden, VOXeh.

Stop using those brush lights, try using foggy lights instead. Use the glow1 sprites for the bottom glows(with the render amount of 80) and for the top one use the glow3 sprite with the render amount of 150.

yes, the beam is a bit to sharp, doesn't really fit