anyone got killer prefabs? Created 18 years ago2005-12-07 13:53:52 UTC by peter_mcpeter

i thought people on here would more than likeley have access to some wicked awesome prefabs. like lights and rooms and hallways and junk like that. or even just a big arsenal of doors that are all set and ready to go. cause the way im doin it is fun but also very time consuming. im making maps for HL1 btw.

im rolling ?50,000 that he's american

http://prefabs.gamedesign.net/game.php3?game_id=3&num=0 This should do it. I got a few turret prefabs from there. The Boltcannon is ace , if you find it

ok you got a bet, i bet $50,000 hunters european. whats your point

no point except to say that i havent heard 'killer', 'wicked' & 'awesome' used for a while.

and yep, im European.

I'm pretty sure most people know which country.

No need for prefabs - they kill consistency and are easily overused. The prefab system is nice for maps that use a certain lamp or door a lot, you could create your own prefabs to add to the consistent feeling of your map, but using other peoples prefabs often doesn't result in very good maps.

Plus, quite some prefabs often contain problems...

And another thing, you can spend a lot of time on details only to find out you're stuck with the layout you've got so far and you don't see a way to finish a map. Doing the rough layout first helps a great deal preventing this. You can add details in a much more focussed way later on once you got the general shapes done as well. Saves you time and yields a much better result than inserting random prefabs.

/rant

Yes P, you've said this...

Not to this guy, he hasn't.

Be carefull with prefabs, they may contain invaild solids, planes with no normal, complanar planes... : Also I seggest you do them by yourself, it doesn't metter if they wont look right at the start but they will help you get better till you can make great prefabs.

I made some prefabs of my own...

i thought people on here would more than likeley have access to some wicked awesome prefabs. like lights and rooms and hallways and junk like that. or even just a big arsenal of doors that are all set and ready to go. cause the way im doin it is fun but also very time consuming. im making maps for HL1 btw.

People needs prefabs cause they know their own mapping skills sucks!If you are one of them,sry not so many people give prefabs in here, so that you can use them and tell everyone that you made it!

stfu saco, you cant even do a change level. lol. why do so many people have such smartass comments when people ask for help. face it were all nerds.

Thats Saco for you, like I said he gets stressed easily like a bull who see's red.

why do so many people have such smartass comments when people ask for help.

actually... it really is just saco.

unless you refer to my 'bet he's american' post, but that was purely observation of different languages rooting from the same base language.

Here's some city themed prefabs I've made. they aren't much but they are prefabs non-the-less. I might make another pack of generic prefabs once I finish cs_poltergeist.

http://twhl.co.za/mapvault_map.php?id=3156

Don't mind Saco,
or the American Bashing. Not very fun to be critisized all day for my nationality. I only really post here occasionally now.

Prefabs eh?

Well, Most people on this site don't really support Prefabs. I believe they are a great way to save time, and add consistancy to your map, but its great to have a little flair of another mapper's stuff.

I consider it like code... No-one writes their code entirly, or even mostly. Code is taken from what other people have put in place as a base code. I do not personally include prefabs in my work, although sometimes I use some of the BM stuff. No point in re-creating a soda machine when theres one right there in front of you.

It depends upon how much do you want your map to be custom. Really, It seems repetitive to have HL textures in your map, although I use them all the time. I really don't have the time nor enisative to make my own textures, and it really doesn't matter much to be in the first place.

Excuse my post on Catain P,
Just that he says this A LOT, and I happen to differ in opinion.

just out of curiosity, what kind of maps do all you turbo dudes make? half life2? counterstrike, or cs source? i tried to make my first cs map today and ran into lots of problems but i wont get into that, i just need time to figure it out

Start with HL1 maps, and build up your mapping skills.

Follow closely the tutorials on this site before attempting anything rash. Start realisticly, and ask questions to us as you go along.

http://twhl.co.za/wheretogo.php

I think uniqueness just matters more to me than to you, Bratty. That's just fine.

Mapping is a process with many different sides. There's the technical side which will cause quite some problems first but you'll get over that if you invest some time learning things and experimenting (and here I agree with Bratty that the maps of others are useable - as examples and such).

Then there's the design part, roughly divided into a visual part and a gameplay part. They're related somewhat but there's still quite a difference between them. I believe this part requires the most insight or talent. You will need insight in how the game plays, in what makes maps fun to play and what not. Again, others have written about this and playtesting helps with experimenting here. The visual part is developing a feeling for what fits together, what looks good, where detail is best spent, and so on.

There's still more to it than these things. Besides the technical side there's the art side as well. Creating textures, models and so on can be considered as part of the level-design process.

Conclusion
I know this is sort of a chaotic rant about my view on mapping, but what I'm trying to say is that it's best to experiment with the technical side a bit before attempting a map you intend to release. Creating a map goes much better once you're a little familiar with the tools and all.

As for what I'm mapping for, mainly HL2DM at the moment.

I use my own prefabs, do you look down upon that?

The Boltcannon is ace , if you find it

Forgive me, but i freaking hate it when people use my name as an adjective.

Nah i dont bother with prefabs.. usually i would make it myself. but if it is something too complicated, like a detailed vehicle, i might look for a prefab to use.

But Capin' P is right. Uniqeness matters ALOT

I use my own prefabs, do you look down upon that?

No, not at all. It's a usefull system for saving time and adding consistency.

It's not that I really look down on using others prefabs as well, but I see many downsides to doing so, hence my rant on them.

I have a question related to this...

When I make my own Prefab, is there a way I can take it apart?

I mean, If I make two brushes and turn them into 1 prefab, when I create the prefab, is there a way I can take one brush off of the other, or are they indefinatly attached?

Thats Saco for you

actually... it really is just saco.

Don't mind Saco,

OK,OK SHISH!

stfu saco, you cant even do a change level. lol

hey at least I can make prefabs and I think I figured out why my level change dont work, some of them work and some of them not...I guess its just ...this thread is not about that anyway.

yay! the old and happy saco appears to have returned!