Fascinating!
Chinese mappers
Created 18 years ago2006-03-27 03:37:42 UTC by
satchmo
Created 18 years ago2006-03-27 03:37:42 UTC by
satchmo
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 03:37:42 UTC
Post #171094
I am fascinated by the Chinese equivalent of TWHL. Take a look at the Chinese version of the Hammer tutorial.
Fascinating!
Fascinating!
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 04:10:49 UTC
Post #171095
I just pictured 5000 asian sweatshop workers making maps in a dingy darkly lit room
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 05:20:31 UTC
Post #171099
Is that supposed to be a Hammer Tutorial? Looks more like a spam thread to me. :/
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 06:51:26 UTC
Post #171106
Looks like a general game forum to me, not really a community site like TWHL. They use way too large signatures bytheway! 
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 09:13:58 UTC
Post #171114
Large signatures..psh, go to the HIT forums, it takes me 10 minutes to load a thread.
You guys really need to make some characters for HL and Hammer I see normal stuff and then HAMMER or HL2 hehe
You guys really need to make some characters for HL and Hammer
I see normal stuff and then HAMMER or HL2 hehe
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 09:32:28 UTC
Post #171116
Signatures are stupid and pointless.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 09:42:21 UTC
Post #171117
I disagree. They're usefull as a subtle form of advertising. I put a link to my portfolio in my sig on any forum that allows it and I believe that's one of the ways my site gets its traffic.
The problem is, some people just abuse it with their images. I think limiting the amount of characters, or disabling images, or both, works well to prevent that.
The problem is, some people just abuse it with their images. I think limiting the amount of characters, or disabling images, or both, works well to prevent that.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 09:46:34 UTC
Post #171118
Limiting the size of signatures works quite well.
Couldnt see anything in that forum except images and blocks. probably some lettertype i havent installed.
Couldnt see anything in that forum except images and blocks. probably some lettertype i havent installed.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 10:22:02 UTC
Post #171120
I always disable signatures, anyone who uses them for advertising is warped in the head. Sad bastards.
www.jobsmaps.com
The best mapping site ever, in the world, go there now NOW NOW
www.jobsmaps.com
The best mapping site ever, in the world, go there now NOW NOW
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 10:29:11 UTC
Post #171122
Sad Bastard.
Well, we know atleast one member on that site is a Michael Jackson fan... or actually IS Michael Jackson!
Well, we know atleast one member on that site is a Michael Jackson fan... or actually IS Michael Jackson!
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 12:38:57 UTC
Post #171145
Christ, those signatures are ludicrous.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 13:54:47 UTC
Post #171152
Judging from what they're writing, they're even younger than the members at TWHL--probably twelve year olds.
It's a thread on mapping for CS:Source. The old Worldcraft has a Chinese version, but the new Hammer only comes in English. The Valve tutorials (and most other tutorials) are also in English. This makes these Chinese mappers hard to learn how to map.
I am considering of joining that community, to give them some pointers, and helping out my people. No one seems to have any clue on how to map.
The only problem is that it takes me five minutes to type a single sentence in Chinese. It's very painful.
It's a thread on mapping for CS:Source. The old Worldcraft has a Chinese version, but the new Hammer only comes in English. The Valve tutorials (and most other tutorials) are also in English. This makes these Chinese mappers hard to learn how to map.
I am considering of joining that community, to give them some pointers, and helping out my people. No one seems to have any clue on how to map.
The only problem is that it takes me five minutes to type a single sentence in Chinese. It's very painful.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 13:59:44 UTC
Post #171154
Sounds like a bit of a disadvantage. Do you still speak it fine?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 14:46:07 UTC
Post #171163
I can still speak fluently, but typing and writing it is another matter. It's not as simple as spelling the words out.
Nevertheless, I started a thread at the new community I joined. I figured it would be a good opportunity for me to brush up on my vanishing Chinese skills.
Nevertheless, I started a thread at the new community I joined. I figured it would be a good opportunity for me to brush up on my vanishing Chinese skills.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 14:50:31 UTC
Post #171164
The link to cstrike-planet.com is borked ;).
Is the little dinky low-degree sign the end of a sentence? Chinese is read left-right, isn't it?
Is the little dinky low-degree sign the end of a sentence? Chinese is read left-right, isn't it?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 14:55:16 UTC
Post #171165
and wheres the link to TWHL?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 15:13:40 UTC
Post #171167
The link to cstrike-planet.com is borked wink-wink - ;).Thanks. I'll delete the link to CStrike and link it to TWHL instead.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 15:14:04 UTC
Post #171168
Why would he link to TWHL for a load of Chinese people who can't speak English?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 15:19:44 UTC
Post #171169
Even though they can't understand the mapping tutorials or participate in the forum discussion, they can still admire maps made by our members.
Chinese is really meant to be read from right-to-left and up-to-down, but it's too difficult to modify this for the computer age. So we adapt.
Chinese is really meant to be read from right-to-left and up-to-down, but it's too difficult to modify this for the computer age. So we adapt.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 15:23:30 UTC
Post #171171
Impressive :D.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 15:37:36 UTC
Post #171172
it looks like a spam thread to me too 
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 16:05:32 UTC
Post #171173
I swear that they are actually talking about mapping. Their postings are just very terse.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 16:46:27 UTC
Post #171176
even though they cant understand the big words or the silly people, they are still fascinated by the pretty colours and flashing lights
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 16:53:50 UTC
Post #171177
and the non-existant signatures.
and Satch, im sure some of them understand English, they are after all chinese, and the chinese goverment is trying to be the best it can be. and that means making their kids learn english
and Satch, im sure some of them understand English, they are after all chinese, and the chinese goverment is trying to be the best it can be. and that means making their kids learn english
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 18:10:14 UTC
Post #171192
All high school students are mandated to learn English. It's part of the standard curriculum.
However, most of them can't really read English in the real world. It's a sad truth.
I was just browsing their CS forum, and I thought it's funny that they call a camper "turtle".
There are quite a few female gamers in that forum, to my surprise.
However, most of them can't really read English in the real world. It's a sad truth.
I was just browsing their CS forum, and I thought it's funny that they call a camper "turtle".
There are quite a few female gamers in that forum, to my surprise.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 18:14:49 UTC
Post #171193
Not only is English a different language group than Chinese, it's an entire different alphabet. Takes loads more time to learn for a chinese than say, a german or swede.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 18:17:20 UTC
Post #171195
Its hilarious, seeing how i dont have the chinese language pack installed, so the whole thread is just '???????' posts
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 19:30:53 UTC
Post #171208
???? HL2 ???????? ?????? mappack ????????
???? OMG PWN ????? ?? ????? ???????? ? ???????!
???? OMG PWN ????? ?? ????? ???????? ? ???????!
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 21:27:22 UTC
Post #171222
Acctualy:
HL2的SDK有沒有中文教學?
人知道Half-Life2的地圖工具哪裡有
你買HL2銀板以上就有付~
竟然還要銀版以上,那銅板用戶算什麼?
有阿? SDK就是了 我的銅板就有~
你會用這個程式嗎?
一樣阿~跟Hammer一樣 只是變成英文的
問一下歐 請問有CS:S BLOODSTRIKE的BOT的檔ㄇ???
真的嗎= =可是我都沒有看到說 @_@可以麻煩把載點貼出來，謝謝
Etc.
HL2的SDK有沒有中文教學?
人知道Half-Life2的地圖工具哪裡有
你買HL2銀板以上就有付~
竟然還要銀版以上,那銅板用戶算什麼?
有阿? SDK就是了 我的銅板就有~
你會用這個程式嗎?
一樣阿~跟Hammer一樣 只是變成英文的
問一下歐 請問有CS:S BLOODSTRIKE的BOT的檔ㄇ???
真的嗎= =可是我都沒有看到說 @_@可以麻煩把載點貼出來，謝謝
Etc.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 21:52:22 UTC
Post #171225
to bad we can all read that just fine foo
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-27 22:28:25 UTC
Post #171227
???That's "thank you".
Doh! That didn't work.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 07:00:27 UTC
Post #171283
Uh... I don't think many at all have the chinese language pack installed. And I'm certainly not installing it.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 08:19:28 UTC
Post #171291
Why are you all babbling about language packs? Surely anyone running Oppy or Firey on XPy can see them?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 08:24:10 UTC
Post #171292
We need to be do carefully talking about chinese! A day they'll kill all of us!!!! 
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 08:32:16 UTC
Post #171293
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 09:02:12 UTC
Post #171297
Mandarin ftw! I started learning it last summer, I think it's a great language. The writing though....ugh. The only way you can learn to write chinese is to memorize each character as you go. It's a veeery slow process. (for me at least)
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 12:09:12 UTC
Post #171314
Nope, FF and XP don't make me see anything else than ?'s, except for some words then...
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 14:21:05 UTC
Post #171326
People post foreign languages here all the time. I've seen quite a few threads with scattered Swedish and Dutch.
Chinese characters just look a bit wierder, that's all.
Chinese characters just look a bit wierder, that's all.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 14:56:44 UTC
Post #171333
I've always had a question regarding Chinese. If words are logographic instead of alphabetic, is there such a thing as a Chinese dictionary? What would be the criteria to organize these symbols and what would you have to do to look one up?
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 15:27:26 UTC
Post #171335
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 15:31:04 UTC
Post #171337
People post foreign languages here all the time. I've seen quite a few threads with scattered Swedish and Dutch.Dutch. Ahem.
At least those languages use ascii characters. You'd need unicode or such for Chinese, right? How exactly does that work on their systems? Looks like quite a hassle to me with that many characters...
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 15:35:30 UTC
Post #171338
Uh... saw it on TV a while back. They type out the words in a regular alphabet, then convert it to chinese words.
Seventh: Not without a proper language pack. They're all questionmarks.
Seventh: Not without a proper language pack. They're all questionmarks.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 15:50:57 UTC
Post #171341
This is my profile page for the Chinese Half-Life community. It's interesting to see the similarities. By the way, due to my new member status, the words below my avatar say "stupid newborn dog". It's kinda like the description members get at the SnarkPit (i.e. snark zygote).
There are two systems to look up words. One is based on pronounciation (phonetics), and the other one is based on the "root" of a character. For example, words that are associated with water all have the same "root" in the character (i.e. lake, river, wet, flood). After looking up the proper "root", the characters are sorted by the number of strokes in the characters.
I type the characters using phonetics, and then choose from a list of words that all have the exact same pronounciation. It's not fast, but it gets the job done.
is there such a thing as a Chinese dictionary? What would be the criteria to organize these symbolsOf course there is a Chinese dictionary. It would be utter chaos if there is no standard reference to organize all these characters.
There are two systems to look up words. One is based on pronounciation (phonetics), and the other one is based on the "root" of a character. For example, words that are associated with water all have the same "root" in the character (i.e. lake, river, wet, flood). After looking up the proper "root", the characters are sorted by the number of strokes in the characters.
How exactly does that work on their systems? Looks like quite a hassle to me with that many characters...It is unwieldy, but no one can change it because it's based on a 6,000 year tradition.
I type the characters using phonetics, and then choose from a list of words that all have the exact same pronounciation. It's not fast, but it gets the job done.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 16:20:08 UTC
Post #171343
I dont want to know how long it takes to write a novel in chinese 
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Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 16:44:24 UTC
Post #171348
given that each character can be several words, probably about the same time as writing a book in english
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 16:45:25 UTC
Post #171349
Seventh: Not without a proper language pack. They're all questionmarks.I have no idea why I can see them, then. I don't believe I've ever downloaded any Chinese script accessories. Must just be Opera's native superiority.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 16:54:41 UTC
Post #171357
Nope, they're all squares in Opera aswell. :P.
You have the cyrillic pack, yeah? Probably downloaded it then.
You have the cyrillic pack, yeah? Probably downloaded it then.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 17:00:12 UTC
Post #171359
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_155
That mean nothing! If a day all the chinese, men women and children, would go in the army we could all of us die! There also NAZI who would be with them! It's a war coming with that! We all going to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That mean nothing! If a day all the chinese, men women and children, would go in the army we could all of us die! There also NAZI who would be with them! It's a war coming with that! We all going to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 17:30:01 UTC
Post #171360
What are you on about? Nazi women chinese armies? Crazy french.
Posted 18 years ago2006-03-28 17:37:29 UTC
Post #171364
Nazis were against any non-Caucasian races. So they would never side with the Chinese. Heck, they didn't even like the Japanese, who fought with them in WWII.
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