vis
Created 20 years ago2004-03-03 02:26:06 UTC by
J@CK_M-N
Created 20 years ago2004-03-03 02:26:06 UTC by
J@CK_M-N
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 02:26:06 UTC
Post #18141
oi, when i compile my map it freezes when it starts compiling the vis
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 03:35:30 UTC
Post #18142
just wait longer if u want vis
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 03:47:16 UTC
Post #18144
It can take a very long time, several hours. If the map isn't designed excellently anyway 
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 05:22:04 UTC
Post #18155
but once its done it and you add more to the map will it take just as long when u got to compile
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 05:28:30 UTC
Post #18156
yeh but vis is to do with the lighting right. so if i just took out all the lights will it compile in a jiff
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 05:45:51 UTC
Post #18157
oh and also, what does "fast" mean wen ur about to compile?
under vis, it has no,normal and fast?
under vis, it has no,normal and fast?
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 06:24:07 UTC
Post #18160
vis is either on full mode or on fast, there arent 3 options despite what the compiler options say
if you're using the proper zoners tools, and are compiling OUTSIDE of the crappy hammer attempt at doing a dosbox, put '-chart - estimate' to give you a proper breakdown of what vis is doing/how it did it and a more accurate representation during compile, rather than just a 10%age
if you're using the proper zoners tools, and are compiling OUTSIDE of the crappy hammer attempt at doing a dosbox, put '-chart - estimate' to give you a proper breakdown of what vis is doing/how it did it and a more accurate representation during compile, rather than just a 10%age
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 15:03:01 UTC
Post #18173
yeh but vis is to do with the lighting rightWrong. Go and read the Compiling tutorial.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 18:17:18 UTC
Post #18189
Vis takes forever. I hate vis. but I need ot. BOO
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 18:59:40 UTC
Post #18197
Use a batch compiler and Zoners tools. Then use the -estimate setting on VIS. It doesn't actually freeze. It sometimes does. But normally, it is just working really hard and making the rest of the programs (including display drivers) freeze. If you use a batch file, you can see it working in %. Estimate explains itself. It estimates the time left!
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 19:20:25 UTC
Post #18207
You dont actually NEED vis and rad... Or was it CSG? Anyways, those just take care of the lighting and... stuff.
You can run the map without compiling Vis and Rad, only it'll be fullbright and notverynice for a final compile, but will drastically cut compile time.
You can run the map without compiling Vis and Rad, only it'll be fullbright and notverynice for a final compile, but will drastically cut compile time.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-03 22:36:27 UTC
Post #18213
Use a batch compiler and Zoners tools. Then use the -estimate setting on VIS. It doesn't actually freeze. It sometimes does. But normally, it is just working really hard and making the rest of the programs (including display drivers) freeze. If you use a batch file, you can see it working in %. Estimate explains itself. It estimates the time left!
MOP, try reading the posts above you ffs, repeating other peoples advice is a faux pas
MOP, try reading the posts above you ffs, repeating other peoples advice is a faux pas
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-04 04:12:07 UTC
Post #18232
You dont actually NEED vis and rad... Or was it CSG?You have to have CSG and BSP. VIS and RAD are technically optional.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-04 13:20:51 UTC
Post #18269
I know exactly whats wrong Press Ctrl-Alt-Delete, When the window comes up you will notice there are two programs that are running that are the same(don't ask why this happens sometimes-I do not know) Now "End Task" On the one on top-- Usually the first Qrad I think- Its been a while since i ran into the problem.
Or another option is to go and press F9 but instead of doing the expert compile do the normal one and set those options If that still does not work- the Compile the map-but not run, and when it freezes shut the process window down and load your map through the half-life icon--
to do this:
Right click on the half-life icon and add onto the target
Or another option is to go and press F9 but instead of doing the expert compile do the normal one and set those options If that still does not work- the Compile the map-but not run, and when it freezes shut the process window down and load your map through the half-life icon--
to do this:
Right click on the half-life icon and add onto the target
"+map [yourmapname]"Unbreakable
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-04 16:42:40 UTC
Post #18284
Fix: don't use the crappy old Qtools, use Zoner's instead. Have you learnt nothing?
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-04 21:03:44 UTC
Post #18295
unbreakable ffs, dont offer advice when you don't have a clue AND THE QUESTON HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED THREE TIMES
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-05 09:33:23 UTC
Post #18313
Oh--lol, but yes I do have a clue because I ran into the same problem.
Oh and maybe hes knew and don't know anything about Zoners, We got to assume hes new at this thing and give him the easiest advice we can ok. And if you have a problem with that, then swallow it, ok. I know your a smart guy at this But there is no need for your last entry in this forum. So anyways thanks for your help and everybody elses.
Unbreakable
Oh and maybe hes knew and don't know anything about Zoners, We got to assume hes new at this thing and give him the easiest advice we can ok. And if you have a problem with that, then swallow it, ok. I know your a smart guy at this But there is no need for your last entry in this forum. So anyways thanks for your help and everybody elses.
Unbreakable
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-05 11:28:16 UTC
Post #18323
AND STOP SIGNING YOUR REPLIES aRGH!
YOU HAVE MADE MY LIST UNBREAKABLE
YOU HAVE MADE MY LIST UNBREAKABLE
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-05 11:44:49 UTC
Post #18325
I AGREE, IT ANYOUS ME TO VERY MUCH
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-05 11:53:19 UTC
Post #18328
Unbreakable, did you know that the post 'authors' name is in the top right corner of his avatar?
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-05 12:49:13 UTC
Post #18334
Yes Zombie Im aware of that so ok yep sure If it annoys all ya I'll stop doing that, Im just used to other forums(on other sites)? Oh and Jigabob
please wait until Im old and gray before you decide to cross an X over my name--lol. Anyways guys gotto go
Unbr... Sorry.
please wait until Im old and gray before you decide to cross an X over my name--lol. Anyways guys gotto go
Unbr... Sorry.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-05 18:12:23 UTC
Post #18392
Zoner's tools mess me up. They compile like nothing I've ver seen but it wont load the completed level. It freezes Half Life instead. So its not really doing anything poductive for me.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-05 18:51:11 UTC
Post #18399
Its really simple;
ZHLT is better than the q-tools.
ZHLT is better than the q-tools.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-05 19:33:59 UTC
Post #18411
ZHLT is better than the q-tools.Understatement. If you use use the Q-tools you should be beaten with something hard and/or sharp.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-06 07:30:50 UTC
Post #18485
I compile by hand, it takes a while
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-06 11:24:17 UTC
Post #18500
What, print out the RMF, then write the BSP and fill it in, then type it in? Good idea, most control over what's going on.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-06 15:51:49 UTC
Post #18539
yup, I write it in binary too
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-06 17:06:56 UTC
Post #18555
Fun.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-06 18:31:08 UTC
Post #18562
Guys, please spare me the whip of glass and shrpanel as I say this: I HAVE to use q tools. I know zoner is much better but I installed them and it froze the game when the level started to load. As I've said before, it's not doing anything productive for me.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-06 18:54:34 UTC
Post #18568
your logic makes no sense you crazy thing you
If zoners don't work theres something wrong with your map, yes they compile a little differently but its generally your fault
If zoners don't work theres something wrong with your map, yes they compile a little differently but its generally your fault
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-07 01:58:16 UTC
Post #18598
As Jobabob said.... Zoners tools only compile the .map file and produce a .bsp.... they have nothing to do with running the game.
I suggest that your game won't run because you have a fatal error that occured during compile. Don't blame zoners for that.
Look at your map!
I suggest that your game won't run because you have a fatal error that occured during compile. Don't blame zoners for that.
Look at your map!
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-07 02:48:14 UTC
Post #18602
Ive tried it wil multiple maps. I dont know whats going on and I dont care. I have the patience to wait out q tools. I watch tv or eat or play other games.
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-07 05:47:18 UTC
Post #18615
they aren't just faster, Qtools lack many important features to SPEED UP and AID in compiling
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-08 09:26:45 UTC
Post #18741
How do you compile your maps by hand? Jobabob?
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-08 10:27:21 UTC
Post #18743
Q-tools were meant for Quake (apart from qbsp2, that is for Quake 2). The only reason Hammer doesn't ship with proper compilers is because Valve couldn't be bothered to make an entirely new set. They let other people make their own tools and stuff. So really, you could make Quake maps with Hammer. Just use Zoner's. Q-tools suck!
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-08 14:57:16 UTC
Post #18762
compiling maps is easy, open up Microsoft Cynicism and transfer from Valve Sarcasm Editor into plain Facetious text
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-09 13:18:53 UTC
Post #18841
Thats it? that sounds pretty easy--Can the same be down when compiling textures in worldcraft?
Posted 20 years ago2004-03-09 21:47:33 UTC
Post #18888
yes, it also allows you to travel back in time and decompile maps with a banana on a stick
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