Half-life 2: Episode 1. Steamy ham
Created 18 years ago2006-05-27 16:59:51 UTC by
Madcow
Created 18 years ago2006-05-27 16:59:51 UTC by
Madcow
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 03:10:44 UTC
Post #183827
Oh please stop the fanboy praise before I throw up, you'd pay $100 for Valve to administer sadomasocistic torture upon your body through your computer
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 03:28:21 UTC
Post #183829
i'd pay $10,000 for that 
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 04:38:08 UTC
Post #183836
in fact, 4 hours is TOO LONG, it should be more like actual TV episode length, 1 hour maximum gameplay per episode
infact why bother with all the nonsense 'playing' the game when you can just watch it instead
infact why bother with all the nonsense 'playing' the game when you can just watch it instead
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 04:54:21 UTC
Post #183837
Well I managed to convert people over...Thanks to mein videos people are considering buying it...
Time to put some lipstick on in celebration
Time to put some lipstick on in celebration
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 07:41:32 UTC
Post #183852
infact why bother with all the nonsense 'playing' the game when you can just watch it insteadWould that include commercials?
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 07:42:19 UTC
Post #183853
but it's not anything like OpposingForce, or Blueshift. It's a continuation of HL2. You don't play a different character or anything. I just think it's odd that they would make something like it. And now there making an Episode 2! Why not get started on HL3!
BTW Habboi, videos are great.
BTW Habboi, videos are great.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 08:04:22 UTC
Post #183860
Why not get started on HL3!Nobody says they haven't. They began planning for HL2 shortly after finishing HL1.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 08:07:11 UTC
Post #183862
But why must they make episodes? It's clearly interupting them since its a continuation of HL2..
Perhaps there will be no Half-Life 3!!!!
Maybe HL3 is Episode 1! :
Perhaps there will be no Half-Life 3!!!!
Maybe HL3 is Episode 1! :
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 08:10:18 UTC
Post #183863
Why? HL2 is different to HL. If HL3 is set in even a further future, I see no problem with working on the new game while making expansions to the existing one.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 09:12:25 UTC
Post #183867
But why must they make episodes?Stable cash flow, thats the ONLY viable reason for episodic content.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 09:20:16 UTC
Post #183871
And it's also the only viable reason for game expansions which have been around for a very long time. This concept you are criticizing is nothing new that comes with episodic content.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 09:21:28 UTC
Post #183872
Well no shit. God forbid a company should actually make a profit! Who would've thought, eh?
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 10:29:54 UTC
Post #183894
no, but its such a fucking stupid argument 'are you against companies making money', do you care more about playing a good game or would you prefer the company you get it from made more profit
episodic content is expansion packs plus, as little content as possible as often as possible, if halflife 2 wasnt so important to you, you wouldnt be so willing to accept whatever Valve do as inerrant
episodic content is expansion packs plus, as little content as possible as often as possible, if halflife 2 wasnt so important to you, you wouldnt be so willing to accept whatever Valve do as inerrant
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 10:39:39 UTC
Post #183896
Look, I just think its odd, if they were to make an expansion pack, it should be something different, like, the player being a combine or something.. I'm not trying to cause an argument, I'm just expressing my views.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 10:44:21 UTC
Post #183897
I think that might be the issue. If there's a company whose episodic games are actually worth it, it is Valve. I don't have Sin Episodes: Emergence or any plan to get that game.
If there's a company I would actually like to make profit it is Valve.
I don't think the same approach of playing as a grunt or as Barney would work as well as it did in the HL1 universe. In HL1, the chamber accident was a reference point from which you could relate the stories. I don't think there is an equivalent event in HL2.
If there's a company I would actually like to make profit it is Valve.
I don't think the same approach of playing as a grunt or as Barney would work as well as it did in the HL1 universe. In HL1, the chamber accident was a reference point from which you could relate the stories. I don't think there is an equivalent event in HL2.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 10:45:49 UTC
Post #183898
it costs a little too much for not being a full-scale expansion like op4 or bs. in fact, it's a fucking rip-off. but I still bought it. 18.90 ?
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 13:43:22 UTC
Post #183924
well at least you admit your fanboyism, now you need to learn to cure it
of course theres a reference point, how about the gigantic plot hole that is the end of hl1 and the beginning of hl2? It would be nice if they in any way attempted to explain it so the two games dont feel so laughably distant.
of course theres a reference point, how about the gigantic plot hole that is the end of hl1 and the beginning of hl2? It would be nice if they in any way attempted to explain it so the two games dont feel so laughably distant.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 14:07:58 UTC
Post #183926
Well, any excuse is good to bite at valve I guess. If HL2 started in Xen or Black Mesa, explaining that plot hole, you would be the first to say that the game was crap for not being innovative and for reusing characters, locations etc.
If you want to know what happened after HL1, play Absolute Redemption if you haven't done so yet. It's absolutely free, so you don't have to worry.
If you want to know what happened after HL1, play Absolute Redemption if you haven't done so yet. It's absolutely free, so you don't have to worry.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 14:53:11 UTC
Post #183930
If the box was green i'd criticise that too, which it isnt, why isn't it green, red is a stupid colour.
I never said hl2 was a bad game, I quite enjoyed it and it has some quite amazing features (very good disability support), its definately up there with the greatest fpses, but being someone who was brought up on adventure games and RPGs I do balk at a poor story, give me deus ex any day of the week.
I never said hl2 was a bad game, I quite enjoyed it and it has some quite amazing features (very good disability support), its definately up there with the greatest fpses, but being someone who was brought up on adventure games and RPGs I do balk at a poor story, give me deus ex any day of the week.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 15:12:54 UTC
Post #183936
My brother plays that game. It sucks donkey tits.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 15:46:22 UTC
Post #183941
at least its better than licking donkey balls
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 15:57:08 UTC
Post #183942
Finally a use for my forum macros. Jobabob,
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 16:03:25 UTC
Post #183943
give me deus ex any day of the week.Dues Ex is awesome. I have played it several times.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 16:43:00 UTC
Post #183945
zombieloffe, you have made an enemy today
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 17:14:00 UTC
Post #183946
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 18:12:45 UTC
Post #183953
Mine cost the equivalence of 35.0412 USD. Oh well, shitty storeTaxes man, taxes
For those who bash E1; Call me when you make something better will ya'? And just for the record, E1 is not the only project Valve is working on, so STFU.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 18:24:43 UTC
Post #183954
YEAH STFU, if you cant do it better yourself then you aren't allowed to criticise it. Valve had so much on their hands with selling steam to every developer going they didn't have TIME to make more than 4 hours of gameplay!
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 19:19:49 UTC
Post #183964
Of course you can criticize the game. But based on what? "Hours of gameplay"? That's just ridiculous. Obviously quality doesn't mean a thing for you. I'm much more satisfied with 4 hours of quality gaming with E1, than 7 hours of meaningless fraging that I spent with F.E.A.R. E1 is dynamic, while F.E.A.R. is the opposite, it's the same shit in reprise.
As someone already said; "you got what you paid for" and it's true. So quit it. Find something else to criticise other than the "hours of gameplay".
As someone already said; "you got what you paid for" and it's true. So quit it. Find something else to criticise other than the "hours of gameplay".
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 19:29:20 UTC
Post #183965
Well, FEAR wasnt that boring. THe cool animations and slo-mo effects were nice. It was all effects in that game. Not a bad game...
As for Episode 1: Yes it could be longer, but this is the only game where I make an exception. If I went back in time and could choose whether or not to buy it again, I would buy it again. Its one of the best FPS experiences Ive ever had.
One thing I loved was things they did that used to be taboo in all other video games. Like the part where you and Alyx get in the car and DOG throws both of you into the combine tower. A very cool experience indeed. Must of took forever to coordinate and create the animations, and have it move with the player with it.....
As for Episode 1: Yes it could be longer, but this is the only game where I make an exception. If I went back in time and could choose whether or not to buy it again, I would buy it again. Its one of the best FPS experiences Ive ever had.
One thing I loved was things they did that used to be taboo in all other video games. Like the part where you and Alyx get in the car and DOG throws both of you into the combine tower. A very cool experience indeed. Must of took forever to coordinate and create the animations, and have it move with the player with it.....
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 19:36:29 UTC
Post #183966
When Ive managed to spend over 200 hours with 2 different characters in a single game, its hard not to find 4 hours a fucking joke of a game, whether its 4 hours of orgasmic pleasure or 4 hours of running around a lot.
When I buy a game I expect for it to keep me entertained for at least a couple of evenings, else I feel completely cheated. Yes my judgment is a little clouded because Ive not been a big fan of Valve for years, but I'm speaking more about episodic content in general.
Anyway, this is going nowhere, obviously this game is the one expection of all games ever ever ever, so blah.
When I buy a game I expect for it to keep me entertained for at least a couple of evenings, else I feel completely cheated. Yes my judgment is a little clouded because Ive not been a big fan of Valve for years, but I'm speaking more about episodic content in general.
Anyway, this is going nowhere, obviously this game is the one expection of all games ever ever ever, so blah.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 19:48:21 UTC
Post #183967
I've played a total of 180 hours of Final Fantasy VIII, and I still don't think Episode1 is any sort of joke.
I've heard some Resident Evil games can be completed in 3 hours, and those games are highly regarded by some people (not me).
I've heard some Resident Evil games can be completed in 3 hours, and those games are highly regarded by some people (not me).
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 19:56:01 UTC
Post #183969
Someone's gotta make a game with 2 hours of gameplay just to show those resident evil goons up
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 20:00:26 UTC
Post #183970
And now that I think of it, Sonic & Knuckles takes about an hour to beat and it cost me more than Episode1. Damn it!!
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 20:04:46 UTC
Post #183971
E1 is dynamic, while F.E.A.R. is the opposite, it's the same shit in reprise.@Jestah
E1 is also the same shit in reprise, killing combine soldiers. Even you - being the one valve fanboy to rule them all - can't seriously claim that E1 brought anything new to the table.
Seriously, i'm going to beat you for even saying that. I finished the so called "expansion" in 3 hours gametime. For 250 SEK that is laughably little.
And HLDM:S is bugged beyond comprehension. No dedicated server support, no way to disconnect without exiting the game, broken gameplay, instability etc..
Overall, I'm very disappointed, even though the actual game (E1) was better than HL2 (in terms of gameplay).
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 20:11:27 UTC
Post #183972
Ya, HLDM source is so glitchy. THe guns in crossfire,.........sigh OMG.....
Kasperg: Final Fantasy VIII? Seven and ten were the best. 8 was ok. Of course this is just how I feel...
Jobabob: The two sides: length and gameplay. Its up to the player to decide which is more important. Its all up to the player. Your choice which one you prefer, but dont go around telling everyone it sucks just because its short, and espically since you didnt play it.
I dont care you hate it, I just dont like how your advertising it in a negative way. Play it to see......
Kasperg: Final Fantasy VIII? Seven and ten were the best. 8 was ok. Of course this is just how I feel...
Jobabob: The two sides: length and gameplay. Its up to the player to decide which is more important. Its all up to the player. Your choice which one you prefer, but dont go around telling everyone it sucks just because its short, and espically since you didnt play it.
I dont care you hate it, I just dont like how your advertising it in a negative way. Play it to see......
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 20:55:07 UTC
Post #183980
Overall, I'm very disappointed, even though the actual game (E1) was better than HL2 (in terms of gameplay).You probably think that because it wasn't as long as HL2. Being not as long you didn't have time to feel like the game was repetitive. I'm not one to tell you what your thoughts are, but it just seems logical to think that. i still side with job on this issue.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 21:09:31 UTC
Post #183982
E1 is also the same shit in reprise, killing combine soldiers. Even you - being the one valve fanboy to rule them all - can't seriously claim that E1 brought anything new to the table.Unlike other games, HL2 (as well for the expansions) is not just about graphics, just the story or just the game-play. It's the combination that makes the game so great. To answer your question, the story is what makes this expansion so alive, as for all games. But for me, the HL-saga is far more unique and intressting than any other FPS.
Yeah, HLDM:Source is really buggy, but I don't really care. Specular mapping with old textures looks really fucked up anyway
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 21:12:09 UTC
Post #183983
it costs a little too much for not being a full-scale expansion like op4 or bs. in fact, it's a fucking rip-off. but I still bought it. 18.90 ?Yeah.
VALVe has a lot of people working on different projects. They have a rather large team. I'd wager that they've got a team on HL3 or a new engine and a team on Episodic content.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 21:14:20 UTC
Post #183984
Why would they need a new engine? Source pwns just fine.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 21:15:41 UTC
Post #183985
For now, yes. In a few years, no. I've heard rumors that it will just be a hackjob of Source with new technology (I guess the Source code pipeline makes it easy to implement and overhaul key features such as the graphics pipeline and physics engines, among others) but -> unconfirmed.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 21:20:38 UTC
Post #183988
Theres not really anything innovative coming to next gen so far. High Def textures, normal mapping more clear, parallax mapping, HDR, reflections. Almost every aspect of RL is emulated now. Now its just the hardware being able to catch up with the newer techniques of development.
Of course I dont mean it doesnt look good. I am just pointing out whats changed, and what has not.
Of course I dont mean it doesnt look good. I am just pointing out whats changed, and what has not.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-05 23:51:03 UTC
Post #183999
They'll always be able to keep improving upon larger textures, larger usage of normal maps and polygon counts (Unreal 3) etcetera. Nothing innovative, but things that require modifications to engines and codebases. HL1 will lag with high-poly models even if your computer can handle it - Source will start doing the same thing eventually. And so will other engines that are in mainstream use today.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-06 03:13:50 UTC
Post #184001
joba: at least play a version of ep1, even if you dont buy it, before you criticise it. it IS quality. in fact, it was as fun as hl2, even more fun, as i am playing 2nd time round with commentary, i dont think i could do that playing hl2 twice in a row.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-06 03:47:20 UTC
Post #184002
I dont think my opinion would change much, i'm not that interested in playing it at all really.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-06 09:56:50 UTC
Post #184023
Unlike other games, HL2 (as well for the expansions) is not just about graphics, just the story or just the game-play. It's the combination that makes the game so great. To answer your question, the story is what makes this expansion so alive, as for all games. But for me, the HL-saga is far more unique and intressting than any other FPS.Jester, please stop fellating Valve.
Yeah, sure HL2 wasn't just about the graphics, it had such a deep, involving story right? The story of a mute guy and a beach buggy, going in circles around a post-apocalyptic city.
Grim Fandango has a good story, HL2 hasn't. End of story.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-06 09:58:53 UTC
Post #184024
Obviously Saribous you didnt pick up on the story in HL2.....There are many signs, letters, and people to progress the story. Go read a story synopsis on it, then come back and say its bad, ok???? 
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-06 10:05:09 UTC
Post #184026
Yeah, i actualy found HL2 to have quite a good story compared to the other games out there.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-06 10:49:46 UTC
Post #184032
if it had a good story, Valve were pretty crap at telling it. If you haven't played an adventure game you dont know what storytelling through the media of games can be.
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-06 10:56:25 UTC
Post #184034
For a first person game, I think the story is told very well. I haven't played Deus Ex (well, a demo which got be bored after 2 minutes) but the rest of the FPS games out there don't seem to be doing much better at storytelling than HL2. The storytelling method in F.E.A.R for example consists in reading the text in the loading screens and listening to dozens of phone messages. 
Posted 18 years ago2006-06-06 11:49:09 UTC
Post #184041
Grim Fandango has a good storyGrim Fandango is superb, brilliant plot.
Deus Ex (well, a demo which got be bored after 2 minutes)Deus Ex is also still superb, though I guess it is an aquired taste. I can see how some people may not like it.
Also there are plenty of games with very good story out there, System Shock 2 for example, Deus Ex, Thief series, Sacrifice, Warcraft 3, Max Payne (Well it wasn't abysmal ;D).
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