Yet another mapping query... Created 18 years ago2006-06-21 15:38:38 UTC by a

Im curious as to if it is possible to have a turret that moves along a horizontal plane, while simultaneously have a barrel that can move up and down without moving the rest of the turret? any help would be appreciated.

You meant like a turrent on a rail? You'd need Spirit of Half-Life.

No - i simply mean like a common tank.

I tried what doctor cheese suggested - but nommater what i set the roation speeds to, the never move in sinc with each other. I decompiled the map "Surface Tension" and looked at the tank there and replicatd its settings - but they didnt move in sinc with each other...

Just out of curiosity - how would i control such a group of entities - as far as i know - a func_tankcontrols can only control one tank at a time - how ould i configure it to control the turret and the barrel simlultaneously?

give them both the same name?

you tie them both to func tanks, but give the rotating part no vertical movement, and no damage or muzzleflash or anything. which you give to the barrel of the tank.

Thankyou for the help - i have just tried what Zeeba-G said - but it only controls one of the turrets - the first one that i placed- Jimmi's idea seemed to work though.

However, to change the subject away from the Func_tank, i have yet another question (So much knowledge required, so little time...)

I am trying to get Func_tracktrain in my map.

When i put a func_tracktrain in the level (along with path_tracks, and func_traincontrols), the train appears apparently randomly far away from where the path is. What is going on?

It moves along a non-existant path that is approximately twice the diameter of the original path. How do i fix this?

PS, a miniature tutorial could be useful eg. "add one of these, place one here, name it that" and so on - just a thought...

You need to place an origin brush around the spot the tracktrain will rotate around. Origin brush= Brush textured with the origin texture tied together with the other brushes of the train.

Thankyou, thats fixed the problem. Its just my luck to have something as simple as a missing origin brush...

I still have problems with the two turrets moving in sync with each other though... - one seems to move before/after the other.

make sure both have the same controles, and then you have to play with there speeds a bit.

remember, they both have to have the same origin (by which I mean different origin brushs for each but in the same spot)

I have decided to post the next problem in this thread as well, just for convenience: When using scripted_sentances, the scripted_sentace fails to activate.

I have named it "Talk", and it is targetted by a func_button (in this case anyway). It then have its "listener type" set to player, and the "sentance name, set to a simple "Scientist ok" group that was on the sentances txt. file when i started. The speaker type is set to "monster1" (which is a scientist incidentally)

Why isnt it working? what am i missing?

I followed the tutorial unneringly three times each with similar results...

any suggestions?

Whats the name of the sentence again? (the capital words exmp: SCI_NO(just an example, didn't check the sentence text)) You need to write that down in the sentence name.

ive sorted the problem - the scripted sentance's volume was set to '0'. so it was playing, i just couldnt hear it. "Lol" says my work colleage

This morning i got a warning coming up while a map was loading saying that "Bad Surface Extentes 9440/0" what does this mean and how do i fix it?

That was a rather stupid thing to do - im sorry i may have wasterd your time...

is possible to have a turret that moves along a horizontal plane, while simultaneously have a barrel that can move up and down without moving the rest of the turret?

As Seventh-Monkey alluded to early in this thread...THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE IN HALF-LIFE ENGINE! (or at least not without spirt.)

Jimmi/Gargy: Seriously, you two should know better than this after all this time. If either of you are so convinced you can do this in Half-Life, I challenge you upload a working example.

/rant

harsh

If it's so impossible how did they do it in half-life eh?

you could modle your turret so it works like the monster_turret, monster_miniturret and er... the millertry one

If it's so impossible how did they do it in half-life eh?

Um, really?! What level precisely are you talking about that illustrates this?

hes got a point, they done it in "surface tension" - however that one was autonoumous, and didnt run off a user-controlls...

This was probably how they managed it...

PS - i am aware how irrelivant what i just said is, i appolagise

If your talking about the APC that drives out and starts shooting at you from c2a5e, the "moving tank" is simply a func_train.

After it moves into place it's rendered invisible, while simultaneously the invisible--not to mention quite stationary--func_tank is rendered visible/activated.

Is this what you were talking about?

No, I was talking about the M4/A1 Abrams Main Battle tank model in the level immediatly after the cliff face (ill get the actual level name when i get back from the my business trip).

PS - Have you seen the pictures i posted of my workplace? if so, what do you think of them, i may have overexposed some of the intenal pictures, but thats what comes of using an analogue camera...

That battle tank never moves.

Rowley, the HL engine has nothing to do with this. It's gamecode we're talking about, and the ability to set it to your hand using entities.
a, the Half-Life gamecode simply doesn't give you such options. Go with Spirit of Half-Life.

Yeah, I didn't realize I wrote that until hours later. Notice it wouldn't really make sense for me to say "(or at least not without spirt.)" if it was something the engine couldn't handle

Too much coffee, typing too fast, thinking too little