December 7th Created 18 years ago2006-12-07 07:23:24 UTC by Orpheus

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December 7th in History

1431: Henry VI of England is crowned King of France

1941: Pearl Harbour attacked without a declaration of war by Japanese aircraft, sinking much of the US fleet

December 7th birthdays

1863: Pietro Mascagni, Italian composer
1915: Eli Wallach, American actor
1932: Ellen Burstyn, American actress

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Err...?

For all the "umm's..."

This Day in History > December 7th
December 7th in History

1431: Henry VI of England is crowned King of France

1941: Pearl Harbour attacked without a declaration of war by Japanese aircraft, sinking much of the US fleet

December 7th birthdays

1863: Pietro Mascagni, Italian composer
1915: Eli Wallach, American actor
1932: Ellen Burstyn, American actress

erm?

Mmm.

Didn't they recently find out that the US knew that the attack of Pearl Harbour was imminent and didn't do anything so they could use the attack to further give reason to why the war was needed?

You idiots, he's talking about the Wii launch in Australia!

Goddamn you, Penguinboy.

Roswell turned out to be fake anyway. One of the autopsy guys came forward and said it was all a hoax.

don't you people watch futurama? the roswell thing is explained fully.

My grandfather died on this day 8 years ago.

Yawn. I'll take a moment when Americans start giving a damn about things outside their own borders.

hehe Saribous ftw

Ben Affleck needs actor school, srsly.

Yes, they knew a attack at pearl harbor was likely, but they expected to be safe by radar, but unfortunately no people with enough expertise were at the radar, so they mistook the first wave of the japanese zero's as a flight of B-17G flying fortresses wich were inbound that day.

America has only been thriving on the war machine since mid 1930's, so i doubt it was a political thing.

No offence to anyone here, but I am tired of people banging the drum about WW2 and 1 attrocities.

The Jews got gassed.
The Americans got bombed.
The Japanese got nuked.
The Russians got mashed.
The Germans were defeated.
The French were invaded.
The English got blitzed.

It was a world fucking war, not tea and crumptes at Hitlers. Thats what happens in war, bad shit. As I said, no offence to anyone or your memories of people who died / served in any of those events. I have no doubt their were a lot of brave people at Pearl. I remember hearing about some black man who manned an AA gun while his comrades ran in fear. Unfortunatly due to his race he didnt get the full award he should have.

Isnt it about time we dropped the whole "cry with us, our ancestors died D;" attitude?

So the Jews got gassed. Now they steal land from the Palistilians and fund large scale mass murder.

So the Americans got bombed. Now they bomb many countires all around the world.

So the germans got defeated. Now they defeat nearly every one at CS/S.

Its called Earth, get over it.

You forgot to add that the Russians are poisoning everyone and that the English are being America's bitch, and also that the Japanese aare pwning everyone in video games. As for the French...Well, no one really cares.

people who have nothing positive to say, and always adding their own flavor of negativity?

um.. like you?

The Ottoman conquered Constantinapolis.Not really...but w00t!

World politics throughout history:

Eveyrbody fucks everybody big time. GANGBANG

Omfg teams!

Every country has its dates to remember.

Sure, but we don't come to an international website and make threads about it, expecting everyone to care. I know I don't give a shit about pearl harbour.

If I made a thread about the Swedish national day, I can guarantee that your first thought would be "who fucking cares?". Keep your damn holidays to yourself kthx.

Oh, and I'm not as angry as I may seem, and I've got nothing against Orpheus. But these things kinda annoy me a bit

Yawn. I'll take a moment when Americans start giving a damn about things outside their own borders.

Sure, but we don't come to an international website and make threads about it, expecting everyone to care. I know I don't give a shit about pearl harbour.

Dude. You are the master of contradiction.

Enlighten me as to how I'm contradicting myself then?

Maybe I should have been more specific...

I'll take a moment when Americans start giving a damn about things outside their own borders.

I know I don't give a shit about pearl harbour.

I'll assume all I want mister. You know I'm right.

Yeah, but still... Oh, whatever.

Damn... Almost wish I hadn't posted now. Seems its all got a bit flamey.

Anyway, yeah, a more constructive way to get my point accross would be somthing similar to what Saribous said;

"Sure, but we don't come to an international website and make threads about it, expecting everyone to care."

That was my basic point (allong with the fact I honestly have had enough about people banging the drum about "how we got fucked", and not just America either).

Its not a clever idea to come onto a UK based website and make a thread about an American rememberence day. On an American based website with a vast majority of American members it would be ok, but TWHL is a mutli based website (as are many).

This demonstrates one of the golden rules of the net: RL and Net dont mix well.

Anyway, I have nothing against anyone remembering past events, just please keep them to yourselfs.

I agree with Saribous's views that people outside America don't really care. When i first saw this thread, i though "What the heck is he talking about?"

To be honest, this sorta thing is best left for the journal.

If you don't care about people dying or dead, thats a bit sad. If you didn't care at all, you'd post nada,zip,zilch.

Well, what im saying is that it's kinda hard to care about people outside your own culture or country. I bet you'd care more for an American family who lost their house then a Asian one that did.

Its not that we Genuinly dont care Orph, its just its annoying when somone comes onto a site and starts kicking up a fuss over somthing that is culture specific, which other memebers can't relate too.

nobody cares about america.

For once i completely agree with Penguinboy.

You gotta agree with Saribous here.
Countries don't give a shit bout' other countries.

I'm pretty sure, that some of you don't even know, that a country called Lithuania exists, not to mention it's fights for independancy, occupations by the russians, deportations to Syberia, etc.

Fuck, does anyone care, that more than 200,000 of Lithuanian doctors/teachers/artists/richer people/etc. were deported to Syberia, during the 1940s-50s? D'ya know, that about a half of them died, because of the terrible conditions, and that most of the survivors ended up with fucked up health, because of the hard labour? No, you don't.

No need to think, that people will start shedding tears for the tragedy of Pearl Harbour. Loads of shit happened to all kinds of countries in the world, during the wars, plagues, etc.

Actually - the dominating countries never used to care bout anything outside their border.
Fuck, if the UK, USA and France would have stopped Hitler before he invaded other countries - there might have not been another world war.

In short: I find this thread useless. Keep your patriotism to yourself.

You gotta agree with Saribous here.
Countries don't give a shit bout' other countries.

It's not just America, of course.
I knew Lithuania existed!

No, you don't.

Yes, I did. You shouldn't just say that we don't know becuase you know, because some of us don't prefer to leave ourselves in the dark.

Lol, something thoughtful and respectful gone horribly wrong....

Gotta love heated debate.

Fuck, if the UK, USA and France would have stopped Hitler before he invaded other countries - there might have not been another world war.

Well, they did, but in a pussy way, saying that him invading other countries was to 'appease' him. We were pretty much Hitler's bitches.

People may not know all that stuff Daubster, but that doesn't mean they won't care. Most people aren't heartless you know.

I watched a tele programme on something that emotionally manipulated me, now I feel bad about it, why dont you, whats wrong with you??

Jeez. Its not like Orph said "If you don't observe this day as a sad day you deserve eternal Damnation." If you dont want to observe it.. don't post in this thread. Its completely uncalled for to bash Orpheus for being patriotic. He was not asking for a debate, and to be frank, there really isn't anything to debate. I know its about a week late, but I will observe a moment of silence for the men who died that day.

People are just acting like assholes cos they think it's cool to hate America.

If it's gotten to the point where you'd rather post about how much you hate them rather than shutting the fuck up or showing some fucking respect for those who died in terrible circumstances, then you're seriously fucking retarded. Honestly, everyone follows the crowd. It's like 'e-peer pressure.' ;/

Honestly, everyone just shut the fuck up and let those who care DISCUSS THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE DAY, rather than posting about how much you don't care and how much you hate the yanks.

Stupid motherfuckers.

Right on.

December 7th
Let?s see,
Lost mobile phone
Some bastard stole my pie and soft drink
Boss yelled at me then gave me pay rise WTF
Stayed too long at work (14 hrs)
Missed TV show
NO SEX
Selfish to think about my own problems, maybe
As for the On This Day Events In History, I hold my own opinions, Maybe we can respect others that like to share Mayor events in their country that have meaning to them.
It would be safe to say that every country has had its "Pearl Harbour"
Care or don?t care but don?t turn it into Anti American debate

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