Well, i really need a new video card because my fps is really low! my video card is only direct X 7.0 compatible!
And i am thinking of buying a new one, something that can run hl:2 normally, or probably something much better. i also have a game called oblivion and my comp doesn't even let me run it because of my shit video card.
Lets get to the point.
I know nothing about video cards and i need to buy a good one fast.
I want your advice on what should i buy! please.
Ps: i have 1.18gb ram so ram isn't the problem.
Video card? uh?
Created 17 years ago2007-07-07 08:43:54 UTC by
Skals
Created 17 years ago2007-07-07 08:43:54 UTC by
Skals
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 08:43:54 UTC
Post #227708
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 08:55:11 UTC
Post #227712
1.18......thats a very strange number. anyway, you need to supply more information. what card do you have now?
sigh
start > right click my computer > properties > hardware > device manager > click the + next to display adapters > tell us what it says.
i'm getting a feeling that the card is AGP, since its rather old. take note of this, and when buying a new one remember that it needs to be AGP. this rules out the latest dx10 cards. i recommend an nvidia 7600 GS. it is AGP and relatively new, and supports dx9. it is also affordable. remember that if you don't have a PCI-e motherboard (i.e. new-ish) you need to buy an AGP card.
and we all know what oblivion is
PS: thankyou for taking the time to fix your spelling. it's alot better.
sigh
start > right click my computer > properties > hardware > device manager > click the + next to display adapters > tell us what it says.
i'm getting a feeling that the card is AGP, since its rather old. take note of this, and when buying a new one remember that it needs to be AGP. this rules out the latest dx10 cards. i recommend an nvidia 7600 GS. it is AGP and relatively new, and supports dx9. it is also affordable. remember that if you don't have a PCI-e motherboard (i.e. new-ish) you need to buy an AGP card.
and we all know what oblivion is
PS: thankyou for taking the time to fix your spelling. it's alot better.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 09:03:38 UTC
Post #227718
And this is what valve saids:
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 09:14:45 UTC
Post #227721
oh dear. it seems like your video card is integrated....i think. in that case you'll have to supply a photo of the inside of your computer if you dont know what an AGP slot is. or find out your motherboard model.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 09:27:30 UTC
Post #227728
Yeah, its integrated. Check ur BIOS for your MB manufacture, then google - or depending on how old it is we can probably assume its AGP.
Otherwise, as PB said, just open her up and have a shoofty
Otherwise, as PB said, just open her up and have a shoofty
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 09:32:39 UTC
Post #227730
why on earth are you running at 640 x 480?!
That's beyond idiocy.
That's beyond idiocy.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 09:56:50 UTC
Post #227736
Yeah i know how to open the comp (not quite sure if its a she)
But i don't know how the video card looks like
maybe give me some images on how it looks like so while taking a photo of it i don't get the wrong bit (i have a camera)
and is it bad to run on 640x480?
(not quite sure if its a she)But i don't know how the video card looks like
maybe give me some images on how it looks like so while taking a photo of it i don't get the wrong bit (i have a camera)
and is it bad to run on 640x480?
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 10:08:50 UTC
Post #227740
take a photo of this:
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 10:15:01 UTC
Post #227741
Okay thanks 
ill do it now
ill do it now
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 10:40:30 UTC
Post #227746
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 11:38:45 UTC
Post #227761
Why te last one? Kinda random.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 11:57:09 UTC
Post #227767
Umm well, I'm waiting for an answer!!!
penguin boy i posted the thing u wanted... well?
penguin boy i posted the thing u wanted... well?
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 12:06:47 UTC
Post #227771
Yes, that is indeed an AGP slot. You need an AGP Graphics card then... derr!
Btw, one picture would have done!!
EDIT:: how much are you looking at spending? Do you have any fan-boy preferences... ATI / Nvidia? I would think not as you have integrated ATM
Btw, one picture would have done!!
EDIT:: how much are you looking at spending? Do you have any fan-boy preferences... ATI / Nvidia? I would think not as you have integrated ATM
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 12:27:44 UTC
Post #227778
well... it doesn't really matter for me as long as its good and working!
so i need AGP graphics card.
I checked out some stuff on amazon.co.uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-6200A-256MB-DDR2-RETAIL/dp/B000CQ73PW/ref=pd_bbs_1/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183825530&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Inno3D-GeForce-7600GS-256MB-Graphics/dp/B000HEYTYC/ref=pd_bbs_2/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183825530&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-PV-T73K-YAL3-7600GS-NVIDIA-GRAPHICS/dp/B000HCJ3W2/ref=sr_1_3/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183825530&sr=8-3
i know that i need AGP now but i have no idea witch one of these is better or if any of em will work for me
so i need AGP graphics card.
I checked out some stuff on amazon.co.uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-6200A-256MB-DDR2-RETAIL/dp/B000CQ73PW/ref=pd_bbs_1/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183825530&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Inno3D-GeForce-7600GS-256MB-Graphics/dp/B000HEYTYC/ref=pd_bbs_2/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183825530&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-PV-T73K-YAL3-7600GS-NVIDIA-GRAPHICS/dp/B000HCJ3W2/ref=sr_1_3/026-0281829-7988453?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183825530&sr=8-3
i know that i need AGP now but i have no idea witch one of these is better or if any of em will work for me
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:03:44 UTC
Post #227782
Usually, the more money you spend, the better equipment you're going to get, and the longer it takes for the card to become obsolete, But check other users reviews, and you can also check newegg.com (a lot of 3rd party stuff but its hella cheap.)
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:12:51 UTC
Post #227785
What country do you live in? ...the UK im gathering by the amazon site
No offence, but the ones you picked out suck quite bad... and won't last very long in todays world. I would recommend spending about 100 - 150 pounds
Something like this would be good:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/125754/rb/0
Guranteed to run HL2 excellently and would be capable of Oblivion. Check out ebuyers other AGPs as theses quite a good range
No offence, but the ones you picked out suck quite bad... and won't last very long in todays world. I would recommend spending about 100 - 150 pounds
Something like this would be good:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/125754/rb/0
Guranteed to run HL2 excellently and would be capable of Oblivion. Check out ebuyers other AGPs as theses quite a good range
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:20:42 UTC
Post #227788
Witch one of these are better:
A:
Product Features
Manufacturer: Inno 3D
Chipset: nVidia
Chipset Speed: 550MHz
Memory Speed: 550MHz
Memory: 256 MB
Interface: PCI Express
TV/Out: Yes
DVI: Yes
VIVO: No
Software: -
Extras: -
DirectX: 9
Warranty: 2 Year
Packaging: Retail
A:
* Product Description: XFX GeForce 6200A - graphics adapter - GF 6200A - 256 MB
* Device Type: Graphics adapter
* Enclosure Type: Plug-in card
* Interface Type: AGP 8x
* Graphics Processor / Vendor: NVIDIA GeForce 6200A
* RAMDAC Clock Speed: 400 MHz
* Video Memory Installed ( Max ): 256 MB - DDR II SDRAM
* Video Output: 2048 x 1536
* Max Monitors Supported: 2
* TV Interface: TV outProduct Features
* Inno3D
* I-7300LE-G4E3* Manufacturer: Inno 3D
* Chipset: nVidia
* Chipset Speed: 550MHz
* Memory Speed: 550MHz
* Memory: 256 MB
* Interface: PCI Express
* TV/Out: Yes
* DVI: Yes
* VIVO: NoManufacturer: Inno 3D
Chipset: nVidia
Chipset Speed: 550MHz
Memory Speed: 550MHz
Memory: 256 MB
Interface: PCI Express
TV/Out: Yes
DVI: Yes
VIVO: No
Software: -
Extras: -
DirectX: 9
Warranty: 2 Year
Packaging: Retail
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:23:26 UTC
Post #227789
* Interface: PCI Express...erm, u sure?
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:24:16 UTC
Post #227790
Uhh... thats realy bad isnt it? xD
The thing u said i should buy... are you sure its the best one i can get? xD
I want hl2:dm to run as smooth as a umm... wire?
and not eaven talking about oblivion!
The thing u said i should buy... are you sure its the best one i can get? xD
I want hl2:dm to run as smooth as a umm... wire?
and not eaven talking about oblivion!
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:28:15 UTC
Post #227791
Well its not the best, but its good - it really does depend on your budget. Now ain't a good time to get into DX10, overpriced and relatively bad performance, and you need Vista, etc, etc... the list goes on..................
Check out Tom's Hardware GPU guides and charts, it will give you an idea of performance / price and quality.
Clicky!
Check out Tom's Hardware GPU guides and charts, it will give you an idea of performance / price and quality.
Clicky!
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:29:21 UTC
Post #227792
...You only have an AGP slot, why are you looking at PCI-E cards?
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:32:56 UTC
Post #227793
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:39:19 UTC
Post #227794
Well, sorry hunter i didn't see that it wasn't an AGP.
I red all of the reviews on the ATI Radeon X1950 Range.
People say that it makes their pc very loud and hot, a guy said that his comp was at 50C when idle.
And people also said they need to buy new stuff like cpu to run the beast...
i'm not quite sure thats good alexb
I red all of the reviews on the ATI Radeon X1950 Range.
People say that it makes their pc very loud and hot, a guy said that his comp was at 50C when idle.
And people also said they need to buy new stuff like cpu to run the beast...
i'm not quite sure thats good alexb
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:44:50 UTC
Post #227796
Yeah... but GeCube have fit an aftermarket cooler - so improved cooling and reduced volume levels.
Otherwise, just slap a Zalman or AC X2 on it... problem solved
...it was just an idea
Btw,
[quote][quote]Quote:
As i said in the first place
EDIT: Also, these cards are made to take the heat. For a mid / high end GFX card, 50c isn't unreasonable
Otherwise, just slap a Zalman or AC X2 on it... problem solved
...it was just an idea
Btw,
[quote][quote]Quote:
- Interface: PCI Express
As i said in the first place
EDIT: Also, these cards are made to take the heat. For a mid / high end GFX card, 50c isn't unreasonable
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 13:46:12 UTC
Post #227797
Alexb a big thanks for all of your help too
i think that this new thing u just posted ATI Radeon X1950 Range
is mutch better, say it has 5 stars with 66 customer reviews -.- omg thats a product!!!
some reviews:
For the money, I reckon it's the best upgrade for an AGP system - buy one! - you won't regret it!
BUT!!!
it doesn't say that its OpenGL supported. cs:s and other valve games support OpenGL dont they? isn't that a problem?
i think that this new thing u just posted ATI Radeon X1950 Range
is mutch better, say it has 5 stars with 66 customer reviews -.- omg thats a product!!!
some reviews:
For the money, I reckon it's the best upgrade for an AGP system - buy one! - you won't regret it!
BUT!!!
it doesn't say that its OpenGL supported. cs:s and other valve games support OpenGL dont they? isn't that a problem?
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 14:48:14 UTC
Post #227801
A X1950 can run all Valve games fine, whether they be OpenGL (HL1-based) or Direct 3D (HL2-based). Make sure your computer has an extra power lead and enough fans to handle the power used & heat generated.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 15:12:46 UTC
Post #227803
I think i have 2 fans.
1 for the electricity box and the other one for all of the computer
1 for the electricity box and the other one for all of the computer
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 15:18:51 UTC
Post #227804
lol i talked with my mom about this card:
Engine clock - 580MHz
Shader units - 36
Pixel Pipelines - 8
Memory clock - 1400 MHz
Memory interface - 256-bit
Memory Support - 512MB GDDR3
Bus Interface - AGP
Variable display outputs - DVI/DVI/TV out
Max 3D resolution - 2560x1600 (dual-link DVI) 1024 x 768 (TV out)
Hardware Features - DirectX? 9 ShaderModel 3.0
Software Feature - AvivoTM
witch costs 106 pounds... first she said, w00t? u mad? but now shes like hmm... when i get home ill see
i have a good feeling hope its a yes!
Engine clock - 580MHz
Shader units - 36
Pixel Pipelines - 8
Memory clock - 1400 MHz
Memory interface - 256-bit
Memory Support - 512MB GDDR3
Bus Interface - AGP
Variable display outputs - DVI/DVI/TV out
Max 3D resolution - 2560x1600 (dual-link DVI) 1024 x 768 (TV out)
Hardware Features - DirectX? 9 ShaderModel 3.0
Software Feature - AvivoTM
witch costs 106 pounds... first she said, w00t? u mad? but now shes like hmm... when i get home ill see
i have a good feeling
hope its a yes!
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 16:16:13 UTC
Post #227811
Get a job and buy it yourself you lazy git!
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 16:30:40 UTC
Post #227814
im 13 lol... uh, if u can get me a job thats fine
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 17:20:16 UTC
Post #227820
telemarketer
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 17:31:36 UTC
Post #227821
In the UK, you can work 5 Hrs a day when between 13 and 15... I considered buying a 7600 GS myself, some dude wanted to sell me one for ?70.
Also, your processor is crap. But worry about the VGA now OK?
Also, your processor is crap. But worry about the VGA now OK?
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 17:39:50 UTC
Post #227825
Processor ain't that bad! So its a Celeron... but its clocked quite high. Don't worry, with a new GPU ur game fps will improve alot!
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 17:45:06 UTC
Post #227827
True, true, I'm just saying the first part to go after the VGA is the CPU. And maybe some moar jiggawatts of RAM.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 18:38:20 UTC
Post #227830
and is it bad to run on 640x480?Extremely. The bare minimum these days is 1024x768.
The only thing that I can think of right now that you should look into before buying that card is whether your power supply can, well, supply it with enough power. That thing is a monster (for an AGP card), and it apparently needs a minimum of a 450 watts to run stable. Unfortunately, if your computer was built by a major manufacturer, it's probably not going to have a powerful enough PSU to run it. Usually, they just put in a bare minimum, since most people will never even think of installing a powerful video card into it.
Look on the side of your PSU, and there should be a little sticker there that tells you the maximum wattage. If it's anything under 450W, it may just run, but you won't be able to guarantee the stability of it.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 19:37:53 UTC
Post #227839
If it's not enough, PSUs are cheap as fuck these days. I got a 750 watt PSU or something like that for around 20 bucks at CompUSA; more than enough to supply power to a 7900GT and a few SATA drives.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-07 20:16:44 UTC
Post #227842
Only 20 bucks? God damn.
Something else you need to look at is the amps on the +12V rail. Most GOOD cards require like 20 amps and up. You just gotta make sure it meets every requirment.
Something else you need to look at is the amps on the +12V rail. Most GOOD cards require like 20 amps and up. You just gotta make sure it meets every requirment.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 02:21:22 UTC
Post #227871
Look on the side of your PSU, and there should be a little sticker there that tells you the maximum wattage. If it's anything under 450W, it may just run, but you won't be able to guarantee the stability of it.where's this PSU? i guess in the comp but what does it look like?
Uhh... or is it the little electricity box thing?
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 02:24:57 UTC
Post #227873
Yes, it's the "electricity box thing."
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 02:36:59 UTC
Post #227874
Kk thnx
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 02:52:37 UTC
Post #227877
LOL my thing says:
Fuse Rating: 5A,250v ~ (+3.3v & +5V = 135w Max)
Max. Output Power: 235w
my comp sucks doesnt it?
Fuse Rating: 5A,250v ~ (+3.3v & +5V = 135w Max)
Max. Output Power: 235w
my comp sucks doesnt it?
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 02:56:21 UTC
Post #227878
That's not nearly enough power.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 02:59:43 UTC
Post #227879
i guess...
LOL. i just visited sapphiretech.co.uk and i found a monstrous beast that suports directx 10.0 and OpenGL 2.0 and vista
http://www.sapphiretech.com/uk/products/products_overview.php?gpid=179&grp=2
LOL. i just visited sapphiretech.co.uk and i found a monstrous beast that suports directx 10.0 and OpenGL 2.0 and vista
http://www.sapphiretech.com/uk/products/products_overview.php?gpid=179&grp=2
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 03:22:18 UTC
Post #227881
Umm... who cares? It's not an AGP card, and it's certainly not the most powerful PCIe card... :
If it's not enough, PSUs are cheap as fuck these days. I got a 750 watt PSU or something like that for around 20 bucks at CompUSA; more than enough to supply power to a 7900GT and a few SATA drives.Holy crap, that thing can't be stable. You can't get what would be considered a reliable PSU for under $70(USD) as far as I know... just ask m0p.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 03:29:25 UTC
Post #227882
Can u give me a link for something Real good then? and it is an agp
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 03:38:38 UTC
Post #227883
No... no it isn't...
From the description:
I can't tell you exactly what power supply you need though, because it has to be compatible with your motherboard.
From the description:
...PCI Express native support...And I take that back, you can get a reliable PSU for about 50 dollars. This is the one I'm using, but I think you may want to find one with a bit more power.
I can't tell you exactly what power supply you need though, because it has to be compatible with your motherboard.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 03:44:59 UTC
Post #227884
Uhh... Thats 50 dollars tho... i live in england 
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 03:47:12 UTC
Post #227885
Yeah. So it's cheaper where you are. Whatever, I was just giving an example, not suggesting you buy it. As I said, I don't even know what's compatible with your motherboard. I'm assuming it's ATX12V, but I could be wrong.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 03:57:33 UTC
Post #227886
and how do i see whats compatible with my mother board?
---Please don't say i have to open my comp again -.
---Please don't say i have to open my comp again -.
Posted 17 years ago2007-07-08 03:59:44 UTC
Post #227887
It depends... I assume (although it isn't much of an assumption, more like common sense ) that you didn't build your computer yourself, so... if you could just provide the name of your motherboard (by opening your case) or even what CPU you have, I might be able to help.
I can already see from your pics that it's a Foxconn, I just don't know the model.
Edit: nevermind, I can see that your CPU is a Celeron D from an earlier screenshot. I still need to know what your motherboard is, though.
) that you didn't build your computer yourself, so... if you could just provide the name of your motherboard (by opening your case) or even what CPU you have, I might be able to help.I can already see from your pics that it's a Foxconn, I just don't know the model.
Edit: nevermind, I can see that your CPU is a Celeron D from an earlier screenshot. I still need to know what your motherboard is, though.
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