Hey. I just got done playing EP1 and i moved onto EP2 and my performance sucks now. I'm using the default settings, and getting no more than 22 fps when staring into a brick wall. Lowering everything to "Low" Only gives me another 4fps... wtf is happening?
HL2 and CSS are doing the same thing.
It was working fine before but now it's terribly slow and laggy.
I have trillian, steamclient, and Spybot S/d working in the background, but i always had and it's never been this crappy before. EVER.
Running a Pentium 4 @ 3.00ghz
1.5g ram
and a NVidia Geforce 6200
anyone have any suggestions?
HL2 Performance sucks
Created 16 years ago2007-10-15 21:56:40 UTC by
Tetsu0
Created 16 years ago2007-10-15 21:56:40 UTC by
Tetsu0
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 21:56:40 UTC
Post #236438
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 21:58:40 UTC
Post #236439
Closing spybot s&d + trillian helps. Everything not related to gaming (steam, xfire, etc) or is a critical program (firewall/ anti-virus/ wi-fi manager) should be closed.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:01:54 UTC
Post #236440
Before and after shots....
Before
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8122/ep2outland010001xb8.jpg
After
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3221/ep2outland010002kv0.jpg
That's barely a difference. I Lag just the same
I'll try closing everything, restarting steam and playing again...
Before
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8122/ep2outland010001xb8.jpg
After
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3221/ep2outland010002kv0.jpg
That's barely a difference. I Lag just the same
I'll try closing everything, restarting steam and playing again...
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:08:43 UTC
Post #236441
Man and I thought that the grav gun was low-res on highest...
Your problem is the new aspects of the Source engine used, if you notice, fire looks better. However the main aspect would be the dynamic flashlight/lighting that has more realistic shadows, the flashlight is bad because it casts shadows on everything that it points at.
Anyways, the 6200 would be whats slowing you down in the end. Its odd that you still get the same fps with everything on low though.
Your problem is the new aspects of the Source engine used, if you notice, fire looks better. However the main aspect would be the dynamic flashlight/lighting that has more realistic shadows, the flashlight is bad because it casts shadows on everything that it points at.
Anyways, the 6200 would be whats slowing you down in the end. Its odd that you still get the same fps with everything on low though.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:13:40 UTC
Post #236442
Episode 2 is running fine for me. Except for glitches and missing textures, but I know the reason for that...
Maybe you do need to update your card? ATI =P
Besides that, it could be other simple things. Last time you defragged your disk?
Maybe you do need to update your card? ATI =P
Besides that, it could be other simple things. Last time you defragged your disk?
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:13:50 UTC
Post #236443
I know my card isn't exactly 'good' but i was pulling almost 70 fps with the same settings in ep1
it doesn't really make any sense to me
it doesn't really make any sense to me
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:16:12 UTC
Post #236444
EP2 DOES require higher standards though. In HL2 and such it automatically sets EVERYTHING on the highest for me. In EP2, most of it is on Medium.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:17:50 UTC
Post #236445
yes. the only thing that's different is the default texture quality is medium. everything else is defaulted.. i'll get a screenshot real fast
I'm really stunned as to why the recommended settings are killing my system
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9409/lkjhtouyikq8.jpg
The low settings are better, but there's barely any difference. I still lag profusely, and that damn audio stutter is still there as well
I'm really stunned as to why the recommended settings are killing my system
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9409/lkjhtouyikq8.jpg
The low settings are better, but there's barely any difference. I still lag profusely, and that damn audio stutter is still there as well
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:22:59 UTC
Post #236446
yeah. everything for me went down though. but i think it's pretty much the same otherwise. because the models look better yet (even though alot of them were remade, i mean they seem higher res) although i think some of the map textures are a bit on the low side, but i don't mind.
even in the most intense scenes, like the antlions w/ the rebels and the sensors, and the first ministrider attacks, i was still getting pretty low lag, if any. i should turn on net_graph so i can see. =D
even in the most intense scenes, like the antlions w/ the rebels and the sensors, and the first ministrider attacks, i was still getting pretty low lag, if any. i should turn on net_graph so i can see. =D
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:41:21 UTC
Post #236449
for GF6200 - 25 fps is good in EP2. On my 7800GS sometimes i have same fps 
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:57:17 UTC
Post #236450
"mat_dxlevel 81"
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 22:58:55 UTC
Post #236451
what's that do?
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 23:00:19 UTC
Post #236452
Sets it to run better for DX8 gfx cards.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 23:07:11 UTC
Post #236453
well.. it is running smoothly now.
fps hasn't changed, but it's not lagging.
wierd
fps hasn't changed, but it's not lagging.
wierd
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 23:13:48 UTC
Post #236454
maybe your system ran out of cake, and now it has to work it off. =)
but let's hope it stays that way.
but let's hope it stays that way.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 23:20:09 UTC
Post #236455
and by smoothly.. i mean. its fantastic....
thanks dave
and i am all out of cake
/wantcake
thanks dave
and i am all out of cake
/wantcake
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 23:25:46 UTC
Post #236456
then you MUST beat test 19.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-15 23:47:14 UTC
Post #236457
oh, i have
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-16 01:40:00 UTC
Post #236458
Then you get cake. Duh. Or fire. One or the other...
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-16 02:34:44 UTC
Post #236459
i got both. and ate them, too!
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-16 23:01:55 UTC
Post #236503
I knew it! Your computer is better than mine and yours ran badly. That's why I'm gonna upgrade before I play Portal and Ep2. So I guess I froze my cake and will have to have it later, although, it will taste a bit funny! 
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 02:11:31 UTC
Post #236505
Everything not related to gaming (steam, xfire, etc) or is a critical program (firewall/ anti-virus/ wi-fi manager) should be closed.Yes, definitely close Steam. Resource hogging programs like that are non-critical to running games like Half-Life 2: Episode 2.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 04:19:49 UTC
Post #236508
Everything not related to gaming (steam, xfire, etc) or is a critical program (firewall/ anti-virus/ wi-fi manager) should be closed.Asshat, l2r, srry.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 06:18:58 UTC
Post #236509
pwned!
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 09:26:23 UTC
Post #236511
Tetsuo, just in case you encounter further problems, i found that my default filtering mode caused some slow-down in the wide-open areas. I don't even know what it does, but i saw no difference graphically, but a big difference of performance after changing it to trilinear.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 17:44:24 UTC
Post #236535
The flashlight is deadly, I went in and played, without flashlight, on high, 2xaa, 1280x1024 = 45fps, turned the flashlight on, instantly dropped to 25fps.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 18:21:44 UTC
Post #236536
It is deadly...If you have the old HL2 font in your windows/font folder then the flashlight HUD is a big square.
So refrain from doing that...
So refrain from doing that...
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 18:48:04 UTC
Post #236539
Thank you for emphasizing my point with bold letters, Zombie. 
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 21:07:34 UTC
Post #236547
I got another error guys... Turning my DXlevel to 80 works fantastic, i must day dave. Like it's incredible I thank you again for that but now i'm getting this other error in episode 2.
I'm sure you all know and love the tunnel loading scenes with the bright white light yes?
Well shortly after getting the infuckingcredible muscle car ep2 crashes in the tunnel relaying me this quaint message: "failed to lock index buffer in CMeshDX8:LockIndexBuffer"
Gives me a little 'OK' button and 30 seconds later i'm staring at my steam games list.
im not happy
oh and one more thing, if anyone else uses the mat_dxlevel 80 thingy, just put + infront of it and slap it into the launch settings so you dont gotta do it every time you load hl2:ep2
I thank you again for that but now i'm getting this other error in episode 2.I'm sure you all know and love the tunnel loading scenes with the bright white light yes?
Well shortly after getting the infuckingcredible muscle car ep2 crashes in the tunnel relaying me this quaint message: "failed to lock index buffer in CMeshDX8:LockIndexBuffer"
Gives me a little 'OK' button and 30 seconds later i'm staring at my steam games list.
im not happy
oh and one more thing, if anyone else uses the mat_dxlevel 80 thingy, just put + infront of it and slap it into the launch settings so you dont gotta do it every time you load hl2:ep2
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 21:50:13 UTC
Post #236551
I don't mean to derail the thread, but while we're on the subject of startup commands, how would I force EP2 to load with the Texture Quality setting at "Very High"? Every time I load the game, it reverts to the default settings and I have to go in and change it, even if I apply them and exit the game with no crash.
Back to the problem at hand: Have you done the Steam fix-all thing with the .BLOB files and what not, and have you tried running the game in different DX levels when making that level transition?
Back to the problem at hand: Have you done the Steam fix-all thing with the .BLOB files and what not, and have you tried running the game in different DX levels when making that level transition?
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 22:05:01 UTC
Post #236553
I cant seem to find the .blob files. i searched the entire steamapps folder and i yield no results.
havent had time or patience to run it at a different DX level..
um
if dave would be so kind and answer me this question (or if anyone else knows)
could i set the mat_dxlevel to like.. 90 or 01 or something?
my default is 95 but can i go somewhere in-between with this?
havent had time or patience to run it at a different DX level..
um
if dave would be so kind and answer me this question (or if anyone else knows)
could i set the mat_dxlevel to like.. 90 or 01 or something?
my default is 95 but can i go somewhere in-between with this?
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 22:21:54 UTC
Post #236556
its not in the steam app folders, its just in steam folder
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 22:27:11 UTC
Post #236557
oh.. son of a bitch!
thanks saw. i'l load it up see what happens.
thanks saw. i'l load it up see what happens.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 22:47:59 UTC
Post #236560
kay. yeah. i remember that... .blob = best file extension ever
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 22:53:56 UTC
Post #236562
randomsteamfilethatbreaks.fail
You've got only a few Direct X levels:
70 = DX7
80 = DX8
81 = DX8.1
90 = DX9
95 = DX9 SM3 (Called DX9+ in GUI settings)
That HDR and phong mapping in DX9+ is way too much for a GeForce 6200.
Settings are suppose to stick, but I guess Steam randomly defaults settings. Like, I'm always defaulted to headphones instead of 2 speakers.
You've got only a few Direct X levels:
70 = DX7
80 = DX8
81 = DX8.1
90 = DX9
95 = DX9 SM3 (Called DX9+ in GUI settings)
That HDR and phong mapping in DX9+ is way too much for a GeForce 6200.
Settings are suppose to stick, but I guess Steam randomly defaults settings. Like, I'm always defaulted to headphones instead of 2 speakers.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 22:58:25 UTC
Post #236563
Good stuff.
I did the Dxlevel 90 and it works great. I had to lower my res to 800x600, but im running everything on high, trilinear filtering, shadows on low, shaders on high, and gettin rougly 30-35 fps now.
AND it loads finally.
Thanks for those console commands, but how'd you learn about that stuff?
I did the Dxlevel 90 and it works great. I had to lower my res to 800x600, but im running everything on high, trilinear filtering, shadows on low, shaders on high, and gettin rougly 30-35 fps now.
AND it loads finally.
Thanks for those console commands, but how'd you learn about that stuff?
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 23:05:04 UTC
Post #236564
what, so could an ATI x700 do that 95 shit?
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 23:12:47 UTC
Post #236565
let us know
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-17 23:14:43 UTC
Post #236566
ill try tomorrow
no time tonight
no time tonight
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-18 03:24:54 UTC
Post #236569
Well, I don't think so, saw. I don't know, how ep2 handles this card, but it doesn't support shader model 3.0. Ati specifies the shader model in this card as 2.0+. Think what you want from that :
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-18 03:43:59 UTC
Post #236570
x700s do not have SM3 and neither do x800s.
Major fail on ATi's behalf.
Major fail on ATi's behalf.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-18 08:13:32 UTC
Post #236577
it is an old card do realize. or at least at this time now it is... im runnin it AGP...
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-18 08:58:13 UTC
Post #236580
x700s do not have SM3 and neither do x800s.Yup. I have an X850, without SM3 support. Pretty sucky, since the X1700+ cards aren't that much more powerful hardware-wise but do support SM3. Oh well.
Major fail on ATi's behalf.
Posted 16 years ago2007-10-18 17:51:25 UTC
Post #236606
Yup. I have an X850, without SM3 support. Pretty sucky, since the X1700+ cards aren't that much more powerful hardware-wise but do support SM3. Oh well.Think of the poor Nvidia stock holders who'll earn 4.7x10^-12 less cents per share if you don't buy a new videocard.
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