A Heavy Update

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 16:27:39 UTC Post #253644

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/

Incoming TF2 news, this week and next week will be packed with new content leading up to the Heavy Achievement pack.

CP_Steel is a community map added to TF2's default map list.
A new game mode featuring 5 arenas of play.
Heavy details released.
Another payload map focusing on more open areas.

I think the new game mod is gonna be Hunted, and if it's not, I'm gonna be slightly disappointed.

Can't wait for this huge update, regardless. I'm really liking where TF2 has been going thus far, and there's no way (ok, a small chance, anyways) they can screw stuff up.

They learned their lesson with the Pyro update and the imbalance, and it won't happen again.

Discuss.

LukeLuke

Tuna

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 17:21:44 UTC Post #253657

Servers full of heavys = win

Tuna

TheGrimReafer

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 17:35:59 UTC Post #253660

If its hunted, i'm going to be so fucking happy

Hunted was my most favorite game mode of TFC-

Also,

Servers full of heavys = Snipers Dream

Pyros are nice too, spies as well..

Spies will be able to stab away before they can even spin up their guns, not to mention the potential following medic.

TheGrimReaferADMININATOR

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 20:03:18 UTC Post #253673

cp_steel! woot.

the new game mode with "5 arenas of play", would that be 5 new maps or 1 new map with 5 modes? guess we'll find out in a few days.

is hunted mode similar to vip mode in CS?

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

saw1833

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 20:17:05 UTC Post #253674

the new game mode with "5 arenas of play", would that be 5 new maps or 1 new map with 5 modes? guess we'll find out in a few days.

That didn't make sense, new game mode with 5 modes? I just think its 5 maps.

And yes, Hunted is almost the same as VIP. Although I believe the attacking team only gets certain classes, one of them being the sniper.
I also remember in TFC the map usually used for that was a level from Half-Life, the one with the torn down building type thing, and the big helicopter landing pad where an apache kept circling and dropping more soldiers.

saw1833

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 20:20:28 UTC Post #253675

sorry, i meant 5 sections - like how dustbowl has 3. i just read the tf2 blog entry and the way it's worded it sounds like 5 new maps. seems quite a bit tho. that's only one less than the number of maps that came out with TF2 in the first place. plus cp_steel, that makes the complete 6. that's quite a lot for valve.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

saw1833

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 20:48:58 UTC Post #253676

it is a brand new game mode... so it wouldnt surprise me

saw1833

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 21:06:40 UTC Post #253678

Holy crap, I wasn't expecting news on this so soon! Valve are starting to up their game!

News of different themed maps brings me joy.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 21:13:35 UTC Post #253680

Yah, I got confused on that "5 arenas" thing, too.

I'm guessing it's just like Hydro, how the map changes around per round.

What Hunted is:
1. Red team escorts Blue team (not likely in a new version, colors will change)
2. Blue team is just a single person, consisting of a 'civilian' class.
3. Yellow team's objective is to kill the blue team guy and anyone escorting him.
4. Yellow was snipers only.
5. Red was limited to Heavy, Soldier, Pyro, Medic and Demoman, so no spy. (I think)
6. Civilian's weapon was an umbrella

I think it would be sweet to see the same except they change the colors, for obvious reasons, and then they allow Yellow team to also have a spy / Red to have spies.

This would be awesome, people dressing up like the Civilian only to turn out to be the spy.

LukeLuke

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-12 23:47:29 UTC Post #253682

it's just they way they say "arenas" and not "maps". it sounds like a way to skirt the truth while still sounding impressive.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 01:45:03 UTC Post #253688

5 maps would take Valve 12 months to release. It has to be either one map with 5 zones, or, 1 new map and 4 alterations of the old maps with the new game mode in mind.

Please for the love of God let whatever it is not be farming/industrial themed!

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 15:28:59 UTC Post #253719

And in this corner we have the KGB boxing champion of the world:

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm

I'm skeptical if those gloves are balanced, but it's gonna be a hell of a lot of fun using them.

LukeLuke

Soup Miner

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 15:46:31 UTC Post #253720

Is that the actual weapon or another mock up like the picture someone made for the spy?

Soup Miner

Madcow

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 15:51:29 UTC Post #253722

It's on the official website, so, yeah it's real

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Daubster

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 16:04:53 UTC Post #253724

Crock Block
Pushkin the Kart
Stalin the Kart

Fuck yeah.

DaubsterVault Dweller

Spike

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 16:18:33 UTC Post #253725

Lol I knew it was going to be boxing globes

Spike

ZombieLoffe

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 19:21:25 UTC Post #253728

"Redistribution of Health" wins. Followed by "Class Struggle".

ZombieLoffe

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 20:44:43 UTC Post #253731

What's up with that?! Is Heavy getting his old hair back?

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 20:52:43 UTC Post #253732

rumor has it that the new shotgun will be a sandwich that gives 100 health, and the new minigun will do less damage and slow people down. and it is said that the new game mode is not hunted - it's some "arena" mode that is like sudden death. and a few old maps like badlands are being redone for the new type.

the same rumors got the gloves unlock almost exactly right, but who knows? some of the achievements make references to sandwiches, eating, and health - so it may be more likely than you think.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

saw1833

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 22:01:03 UTC Post #253733

omg a sandwich!

saw1833

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 23:51:15 UTC Post #253734

Redistribution of health achievement:

the image is called 'tf_heavy_heal_medikits.png'. so the heavy is getting medkits in the form of sandwiches? only time will tell!

god i love valve

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-13 23:51:55 UTC Post #253735

I believe the sandwich thing.

Valve is, in fact, the world's greatest video game producer.

LukeLuke

AJ

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 00:34:36 UTC Post #253736

VALVE VALVE VALVE!

In terms of the sandwich theory, remember the Meet the Scout vid? Seems pretty plausible to me.

AJGlorious Overlord

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 01:17:27 UTC Post #253737

I hope this isn't true, the Heavy isn't a Medic.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

ATDestroy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 01:44:38 UTC Post #253738

I dont think valve would give the heavy limited medical abilities, since they made it clear they want each class to have its own unique role.

I think if they did, it would have to be personal use, and a one use item, after which you have to get ammo or something.

ATDestroy

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 01:50:01 UTC Post #253739

This one is called "tf_heavy_kill_scouts.png", but there's also one called "tf_heavy_eat_sandwiches.png". :/

I really hope there are no sandwich medkits. Last thing Valve should do is blur the lines between each classes purpose.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Archie

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 04:32:22 UTC Post #253741

http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/images/AchievementIcons/tf_heavy_kill_taunt.png

looks like the pyro's not the only one.

POW.

ArchieGoodbye Moonmen

ZombieLoffe

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 04:53:13 UTC Post #253742

Looking at the file names, coupled with the images it's fairly easy to discern each individual achievement.
User posted image

: heavy_kill_underwater
User posted image

: heavy_clear_stickybombs
User posted image

: heavy_teleport_fast_kill
User posted image

: heavy_kill_heavies_gloves
User posted image

: heavy_earn_medic_domination, etc, etc

If valve really wanted this to stay secret, I guess they'd put a bit more thought into it. Then again, the actual info release is, what, today? I guess it doesn't really matter.

ZombieLoffe

Spike

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 05:11:14 UTC Post #253743

There's an pic with a spy beeing floodlighted. Heavies having the hability to see spies? That would ruin the game.

Spike

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 06:12:08 UTC Post #253744

this is probably done by valve on purpose elof, to create discussions very much like this one.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Madcow

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 07:15:37 UTC Post #253745

I think the sandwich instead of a shotgun is very plausible as Valve themselves at some point in a blogg entry said that they needed a way to fix so that the Heavy doesn't need a medic to survive.
In the current version, a heavy is NOTHING alone.
Giving him the ability to heal a little might be a solution to it, but then I don't think the sandwich would just give him 100 in health, it'd probably give him some other kind of a boost like critz for 30 seconds or whatever.

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Seker

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 11:20:51 UTC Post #253748

maybe the sandwich is a new taunt ?

Seker

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 12:33:19 UTC Post #253757

I think the sandwich has two abilities:

1. To kill things (as seen by the "Don't touch sandwich" achievement (or whatever it was)
2. To heal yourself. I doubt they'd make it able to heal others.

LukeLuke

Tuna

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 12:41:08 UTC Post #253758

I want to beat shit to death with a sandwich

Tuna

Seker

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 13:08:52 UTC Post #253760

the picture with the alternate heavy is assisting a heavy as heavy.

Seker

saw1833

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 15:02:53 UTC Post #253765

Way back up at PB:

"The Heavy" update is the largest update to Team Fortress 2 since it was first released as part of The Orange Box last October. In addition to offering new unlockable weapons, achievements, "The Heavy" update also includes a brand new gameplay mode and a number of new maps.

That is from Steam News.

saw1833

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 15:57:39 UTC Post #253766

The new map is detailed: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm

Badwater Basin, another cart map.

I think this is gonna be awesome. Open layout, something I disliked Goldrush for not having when I first played it.

I got over that soon, though.

Woohoo, another desert themed map :!

LukeLuke

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-14 21:25:19 UTC Post #253776

Badwater Basin... damn you, Valve.

Honestly that map just looks lazy.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-15 21:14:52 UTC Post #253837

BTW, new update incase you missed it.

http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm

Not really seeing how good of a choice that was, we'll see.

Penguinboy seems to be right, too.

rumor has it that the new shotgun will be a sandwich that gives 100 health, and the new minigun will do less damage and slow people down. and it is said that the new game mode is not hunted - it's some "arena" mode that is like sudden death. and a few old maps like badlands are being redone for the new type.

So far, anyways.

LukeLuke

Soup Miner

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 00:22:30 UTC Post #253839

The new minigun has got to be one of the worst possible weapons they could have presented to us.

My money was on a sort of slow firing, slug gun, but too bad.

Soup Miner

saw1833

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 00:43:33 UTC Post #253848

They have 2 out of 5 right so far. 3 left guys... will we have suddenly gay gamemode, sandwich and badlands? =O 2 days of revealing... but not until a 2 day break...

saw1833

Strider

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 02:54:58 UTC Post #253850

The background for that update is more interesting than the update itself. I see green.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 04:06:07 UTC Post #253851

some of you might have missed the fact that they have revealed the achievement details too. http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Archie

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 05:36:11 UTC Post #253858

Rasputin: In a single life, get shot, burned, bludgeoned, and receive explosive damage.

lol'd

ArchieGoodbye Moonmen

ATDestroy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 05:48:37 UTC Post #253859

they left out falling and drowning damage

ATDestroy

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 05:49:42 UTC Post #253860

i had to read the wiki page on rasputin first. he never received explosive damage! but he did get stabbed, poisoned, shot, bludgeoned, drowned, and burned!

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Luke

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 21:36:45 UTC Post #253946

They're kinda good. Not as good as the pyro's though.

Redistribution of Health: Heal 1000 damage with med-kits in a single life.

I guess they threw team roles out the window, eh?

LukeLuke

saw1833

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 21:47:45 UTC Post #253947

Also it said "Eat 100 sandviches" or whatever...

saw1833

ATDestroy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 21:48:24 UTC Post #253948

The wording of that achievement is weird. To me, it looks like they want you to pick up 1000 HP worth in medkits that lay around the map.

ATDestroy

Penguinboy

Posted 16 years ago2008-08-16 22:02:22 UTC Post #253949

yeah, i think you're right.

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

A Heavy Update Created 16 years ago2008-08-12 16:26:47 UTC by Luke