making the night sky.. dark map - how? Created 14 years ago2009-07-15 05:47:44 UTC by ninja defuse

hello i have no idea how to make a night level map...

screen ->didnt work..

i would like to make something like this ->
http://www.visualwalkthroughs.com/deusex/liberty1/19.jpg

That screenshot looks fullbright for a start so there's a problem with the compile.

because there is light_enviroment

So lower the brightness of the light_environment. The brightness is the last number in the colour field (eg. 255 0 0 255 means red with 255 brightness), if my memory serves correctly. Alternatively, drop the light_environment entirely and use only texlights where they are needed (for a truly pitch black outdoors map).

@Zombie: The last number is already 2, wouldn't make a difference if it were 0.

@Ninja: You probably have a leak, so try to find out where it is.

It definitely looks fullbright. Post your compile log.

Yup, looks like a leak to me.
The map will appear fullbright if it has a leak. Fix the leak and the fullbright should go away.

in hammer(3.5): map > load pointfile. You'll find a leak.
plus you can always do a CTRL-p to check for problems before the compile. Might be something there.

Make sure you run RAD too. Also, try setting your light_enviroment at the general angle and direction of the sun/moon in your sky.
I find a blueish tinge helps quite a bit, especially if you have a big, bright moon. I've also seen nights where you can see very well, so you don't need the brightness down so much that RAD has a hard time running.

RAD has a harder time in the dark? I thought it would be the other way around...

Nope. Takes less work to display textures as they are than to add shadow to them.

Wow, you guys can't be serious. You can clearly see shadows on the wall under that alcove. It doesn't look fullbright at all, it just looks overly bright and possibly misdirected. I bet he left the angles all at their default values, which would make everything really bland like it is. I'm kind of baffled by his brightness setting though. It looks to me more like 80 or 100, definitely not 2.

As was mentioned before, make sure you're using a bluish color. The eye sees this as darker somehow. Next, you'll probably want a really REALLY low light output. For me, even 50 is a bit bright, and seems a bit more like late afternoon than night. If you want a truly night-like map, I recommend setting the light_environment extremely low or deleting it altogether, and just working with regular texlights or spotlights strategically placed around your map. This will give the most realistic atmosphere, the only problem with it is that for outdoor maps with wide open areas, there's not always a good place to put lights. It works fine in city maps, though.

Wow, you guys can't be serious. You can clearly see shadows on the wall under that alcove.

Uh, no. That's part of the texture...

Even if that's not apparent to your eyes, the shadows around the door frame/cutout are very clear if you open the picture up. And don't try telling me that's a different texture, it's very obviously the same one.

Oh well, I guess the only way to know for sure is if ninja defuse ever responds.

True.
I dunno, It looks like it's just a darker part of the brick texture to me.

I don't see any shadows at all. Only fullbright textures.

tadam

Nice job!
Looks great for early work.

Much better! Did you have leaks or was it something else?

well the whole map was damn simple.. it was a little trouble to cast a shadow with that simple architecture but no leaks

and light enviroment didnt work at all

What about 20 for brightness?

That's because it's a light, not a light_environment. If you change that it will be fine.

Also remember that in the light_environment, you have to point the angle in the opposite direction - instead of where the light goes to, you need to point it to where it comes from.

I did not know that. Thank you.

No wonder we couldn't figure it out, you completely blocked the entity name in the original picture.

Your lighting in that map looks fantastic.

lmao. i didnt even notice it was only a light.
and i do agree with srry. I might just leave out the light environment and build on what you already have.
It seems to be working so far.