E3 2010 Created 13 years ago2010-06-12 09:08:21 UTC by Penguinboy Penguinboy

Created 13 years ago2010-06-12 09:08:21 UTC by Penguinboy Penguinboy

Posted 13 years ago2010-06-12 09:08:57 UTC Post #281773
Has it been a year already? It has, and you know what that means...
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Yes folks, it's time again for all our favourite game companies to gather in a big building and compare the sizes of their...profits.

Of course, the only thing that can come out of E3 is entertainment and excitement (followed by inevitable disappointment) for us consumers. So let's get excited!

Lets hear your predictions for the upcoming events. Remember that the big 3 will have their keynotes, but also EA and Ubisoft have fairly big events, too. Of course, you can also talk about other companies, but let's keep the wild Valve speculation to a minimum, shall we?

Personally I'd like to see more from Nintendo about Golden Sun 3, which was announced last year, but has had ZERO information released since. We'll probably get some information on the new Zelda game, too. Sony and Microsoft will be busy talking about their new motion control stuff, but might find the time to announce some new games, too.

So; Speculate away! Whoever guesses the most correct outrageous claims gets a prize of incalculable value!
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-12 11:23:56 UTC Post #281774
Half life 3. :P

Everyone says portal 2 again and again, but look at this picture:
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(On his right arm is a veiny lambda symbol + his fist looks like a 3)
TheGrimReafer TheGrimReaferADMININATOR
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-12 12:53:05 UTC Post #281775
Hahaha I'd never have spotted that. It does look quite intentional.
Madcow MadcowSpy zappin my udder
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-12 17:19:20 UTC Post #281776
Portal 2 is already out there, we know about it, I'm more looking at a new reveal.
If ValvE knows what's good for them, they'll pull out another Orange Box.
Episode 3, Portal 2, Ricochet: Source (lol jk) but something multiplayer and new...
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-12 19:37:24 UTC Post #281777
This calls for a new poll!
I don't know what's coming up, but I expect good things.
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-12 22:38:03 UTC Post #281779
but let's keep the wild Valve speculation to a minimum, shall we?
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 09:53:29 UTC Post #281805
The Microsoft keynote starts in 3 hours. Exciting! Of course, I don't expect much else besides Natal, Natal, and more Natal. Oh, I mean "Kinect".

EDIT: Nobody interested in E3 this year? I'm not surprised, it's been pretty fucking terrible so far.

Microsoft's keynote was officially the worst I've ever seen - full of Natal bullshit. It was even more hilariously terrible than the Wii Music affair Nintendo tried to pull off at a previous keynote.

EA and Ubisoft had similarly mediocre keynotes.

I guess the biggest 'news' so far is the new 360 redesign. Some people like it, some hate it. Personally, I think it's about the same. A hardware redesign might be just what MS needs to stop the RROD's.

Nintendo's keynote starts in two hours - hopefully they're a bit better this year (no way it can be as crap as Microsoft's this year). Probably the one I'm looking forward to the most - I want to see more news on the 3DS.

After Nintendo is Sony. Interesting to see how they go too, although the Move doesn't impress me much (more than Natal, though!).
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 12:48:24 UTC Post #281831
I hear people say that the surprise has been cancelled (at least for this E3 event).

Also:
Open "source 2007 shared materials"

Then go to:
Materials -> models

There are three new folders named: "boxrocket_Chell_head" "ihvtest" and "ihvtree".

They contain some very weird textures:
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That is messed up. What is going on?

Alsoalso:
Hide cursor when playing movies in game

What the devil is Valve up to?
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 13:10:40 UTC Post #281834
They're definitely up to something. I bet they've already completed Portal 2 and they're just doing all this to mess with us.
Alabastor_Twob Alabastor_Twobformerly TJB
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 13:24:30 UTC Post #281835
Nintendo's keynote just ended. Definitely makes up for Microsoft's failure yesterday - tons of new games, more info on Golden Sun, new Zelda announced, 3DS reveal, with an impressive looking Kid Icarus game for it. Even a new Goldeneye game for Wii, which looks pretty cool too. I highly doubt that Sony can beat that.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 14:13:56 UTC Post #281836
Anyone going to E3?

I live in Long Beach, so I am only a 30-minute train ride away from E3 (LA Convention Center).

I don't have a pass, so I can't get inside. But I am planning to go on Thursday to scout around outside, when I don't have to work in the morning.

I'll post some pictures if I spot anything interesting.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 14:22:06 UTC Post #281837
How about this:
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Maybe that doesn't mean anthing at all.
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 15:43:13 UTC Post #281841
What?? Is this true?? I can't believe it!! IS THAT A LUTE???
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 16:30:20 UTC Post #281845
Gabe just announced that Portal 2 will be on the PS3. Now can we stop the silly Valve speculation?
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 16:47:54 UTC Post #281846
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 16:50:14 UTC Post #281847
And for PC, right? :zomg:
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 16:59:18 UTC Post #281849
Oh jeez, Portal 2 for PS3? That's it? Lame. There's nothing new about that.

Here's the Portal 2 trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJerZFt3eXk

Ingame Portal 2 footage: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7684232 (Bad video and very BAD sound)
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 17:24:11 UTC Post #281851
God, Peter Molyneux is so full of shit.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 17:44:16 UTC Post #281853
Indeed, Elof. He takes douchebaggery to the next level.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 17:58:43 UTC Post #281854
I bet everyone's gonna be pissed valve pushed it from November to next year.
brendanmint brendanmintBrendan
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 18:15:31 UTC Post #281858
PS3 will now have game.
Anyway, a lot of that Portal footage looks VERY impressive for Source. Could it be a new engine? Or maybe it's just yet another enhancement of Source for a new game.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 20:40:08 UTC Post #281860
I figured a new engine as well.
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 21:28:19 UTC Post #281863
@Muzz: Half-Life.gcf/valve/gfx/palette.bmp is this image:
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:D
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 21:29:12 UTC Post #281864
I'd much rather have another enhancement like EP2, that way i can still map for it comfortably. Hammer FTW.
brendanmint brendanmintBrendan
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-15 22:36:16 UTC Post #281865
Anyone going to E3?
Considering no one here is in the game industry, I'd say no. Its not open to the public.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 00:14:36 UTC Post #281867
Isn't RabidMonkey in the game industry, considering that he is working on Black Mesa Source?
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 01:09:41 UTC Post #281869
It's not a new engine. It's just Valve's movie creation tool. Consider the TF2/L4D videos, it's the same as that.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 01:19:19 UTC Post #281870
Indeed, Elof. He takes douchebaggery to the next level.
What did he say this time? :s
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 14:59:10 UTC Post #281899
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 15:54:19 UTC Post #281900
I would like to see all of them on one stage at the same time debating their platforms. Btw, the wii guys got some dirty speech pettern.
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 17:59:04 UTC Post #281902
It's just Valve's movie creation tool. Consider the TF2/L4D videos, it's the same as that.
The video was all mostly realtime. Check my Portal 2 videos thread. it looks like Source uses completely dynamic lighting in Portal 2, or at least dynamic sky light. You can see shadows cast by leaves and such move around in parts of the videos.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 18:49:28 UTC Post #281905
and the new paints, that was kick ass for source.
brendanmint brendanmintBrendan
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 19:32:45 UTC Post #281906
The video was all mostly realtime. Check my Portal 2 videos thread. it looks like Source uses completely dynamic lighting in Portal 2, or at least dynamic sky light. You can see shadows cast by leaves and such move around in parts of the videos.
That's all looks like an upgraded version of the projected lighting the flashlight uses in Ep3/L4D/L4D2. It's nothing new for Source, except obviously being optimised enough for widescale use.

The engine is definitely nicer, but the teaser was clearly not realtime. It's rendered through their filmmaker with many effects you probably won't see in-game. Crepuscular rays, for one. They've been doing these since TF2.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 19:34:49 UTC Post #281907
Crepuscular rays?
brendanmint brendanmintBrendan
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 21:23:38 UTC Post #281908
flashlight uses in Ep3/L4D/L4D2
What?!
When did this happen?
That better be a typo.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 21:26:53 UTC Post #281909
What?!
When did this happen?
That better be a typo.
Oops. It was. ;(
Crepuscular rays?
'God' rays. This sort of thing. You can see them in use in the L4D intro videos, too, along with a heap of supersampling and depth of field effects.

Point is, that teaser was the same sort of movie magic Valve has used many times before. Portal 2 is looking great, regardless.
Nintendo totally stole the show for me, with their keynote. It was the only conference that was all about the games, and had an impressive line-up to show. They also win points because they didn't have a dorky nerd on-stage dancing to a crappy motion peripheral.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 21:41:29 UTC Post #281910
crepuscular rays....These a model for that.
brendanmint brendanmintBrendan
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 22:05:57 UTC Post #281911
Yeah, but the model is static, and faked through layers. The kind used in their videos is a fully dynamic (deforming/shadowing) effect, definitely not a model.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-16 22:45:01 UTC Post #281913
i know, i was doing that 'there's an app for that' thing from the commercials.
brendanmint brendanmintBrendan
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 00:36:01 UTC Post #281914
Far Cry 2 has had complete dynamic lighting for the past few years.

It is nice, I have to admit. And I am glad that it's finally coming to the Source engine (I hope).
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 00:46:01 UTC Post #281915
Shadow of Chernobyl had fully dynamic lighting back in 2007.
FEAR had it in 2005.
Even Doom 3 had it way back in 2004 :P

Ok, so maybe the rays in the video were a tell-tale sign. The new lighting enhancements threw me off.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 00:53:06 UTC Post #281916
wasn't last years E3 where they first showed Greenday Rockband? that game looks gay as shit, sorry. but dynamic lighting in source is possible, its just not as sexy as the "god" lighting.
brendanmint brendanmintBrendan
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 02:37:21 UTC Post #281917
The engine is definitely nicer, but the teaser was clearly not realtime. It's rendered through their filmmaker with many effects you probably won't see in-game. Crepuscular rays, for one. They've been doing these since TF2.
I watched the portal demo on e3 and I pretty much saw all the effects I saw in the trailer.
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 03:15:10 UTC Post #281918
I watched the portal demo on e3 and I pretty much saw all the effects I saw in the trailer.
I've seen them too, twice in 720p. There are no dynamic rays, no DOF, and you can bet no console is going to be using such a scale of supersampling at a playable rate. This isn't a bad thing as most console games don't have those anyway.

This is just no different than what Valve have done with their other game videos, that's all.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 08:30:36 UTC Post #281921
There are three new folders named: "boxrocket_Chell_head" "ihvtest" and "ihvtree".
I hate to break it to you, but those have been there at least since last december. Or at least the face and tree ones were.
Gabe just announced that Portal 2 will be on the PS3. Now can we stop the silly Valve speculation?
Didn't see that coming. Especially since last I checked, Gabe saw porting Valve games to PS3 as a waste of time.

Also, I look forward to dynamic lighting in source. I wonder if we'll be able to block texlights with decals and props, or maybe shoot lights out now...
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 13:36:46 UTC Post #281927
More to see

Crepuscular rays? There are some models available for ep2 that mimic that...
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 15:24:24 UTC Post #281930
I just came back from E3 on the last day.

Even without a pass, I could get pretty far into the exhibits and watch a lot of demos (and booth babes).
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I'm uploading some videos to YouTube right now, and I'll post them when the slow upload is complete.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 15:43:47 UTC Post #281931
Here you go: link, and link.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 16:10:51 UTC Post #281933
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Man. I want in!
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Posted 13 years ago2010-06-17 16:25:43 UTC Post #281935
@Potatis,

That's been the palette picture for like ever. Even on the WON version.

unless of course you were joking/
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