He's my President.
He clearly supports game development by young people.
I doubt Bush knows anything about games.
Obama the Gamer
Created 14 years ago2010-09-17 01:26:21 UTC by
satchmo
Created 14 years ago2010-09-17 01:26:21 UTC by
satchmo
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 01:26:21 UTC
Post #285418
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 02:34:09 UTC
Post #285419
I would like that, if taxes didn't go uppity.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 04:09:08 UTC
Post #285421
Yeah, 4 hours down the line it's a country war, religion war, and all out "george bush is a moron" debate.
Good move by obama though.
Good move by obama though.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 07:30:10 UTC
Post #285426
Nice to see a politician not condemning vidiagames for once.
Also we need more Presidential Challenges! Win beer with the prez!
Also we need more Presidential Challenges! Win beer with the prez!
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 10:37:48 UTC
Post #285428
Hey, what if we just made some video game challenge, gave it some official political sounding name, then the nerds love us?
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 11:26:28 UTC
Post #285430
I say the only reason he did this is to boast Americas dominance over the industry, and since the gaming industry is bigger than the movie and music industries combined, I'd say there's some money involved.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 12:04:30 UTC
Post #285432
the gaming industry is bigger than the movie and music industries combinedGet the fuck out, not even close.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 12:36:56 UTC
Post #285433
I got curious and looked it up, and the numbers I found actually supports Skals 
In 2007:
Music industry revenues: 10.4 billion USD
Gaming industry revenues: 18 billion USD
Movie industry revenues: 9.62 billion USD
That's pretty sick :
Sources were not that carefully examined tho ^^
In 2007:
Music industry revenues: 10.4 billion USD
Gaming industry revenues: 18 billion USD
Movie industry revenues: 9.62 billion USD
That's pretty sick :
Sources were not that carefully examined tho ^^
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 13:30:07 UTC
Post #285436
That was 3 years ago, it has severely grown since then.
...and soup miner, the point you're trying to make is...?
...and soup miner, the point you're trying to make is...?
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 14:24:08 UTC
Post #285439
This is great news both for developers and the games development industry. Fostering childrens' interest in games and challenging them to develop something is exactly what we need, not fear mongering and condemnation of the industry and games as a whole.
Yeah, 4 hours down the line it's a country war, religion war, and all out "george bush is a moron" debate.With regards to the latter, there's little, if anything at all, to debate.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 15:28:00 UTC
Post #285443
...Because forcing kids to be nerds is the way forwards :>.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 16:02:44 UTC
Post #285445
I dislike this just cause game designing used to be a rather uncommon career goal. (kind of.)
Now I'm going to have deal with all the MW2-players-turned-mapping-n00bs.
Another thing, if there's anything certain in this thread, its satchmo's unoriginal and VERY predictable stabs at president bush.
Anyway, Obamas still for net neutrality, and Mccain wouldve been too, so politicians just suck no matter how much they try to appeal to us.
Now I'm going to have deal with all the MW2-players-turned-mapping-n00bs.
Another thing, if there's anything certain in this thread, its satchmo's unoriginal and VERY predictable stabs at president bush.
Anyway, Obamas still for net neutrality, and Mccain wouldve been too, so politicians just suck no matter how much they try to appeal to us.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 16:52:07 UTC
Post #285447
Another thing, if there's anything certain in this thread, its satchmo's unoriginal and VERY predictable stabs at president bush.Almost as predictable as a conservative being personally offended by a joke about a man they have never once met.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:02:52 UTC
Post #285450
Video games are improving and advancing the way Americans are living, working and playingDoes he realize how many times I was asked if I play World of Warcraft at job interviews!?
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:10:11 UTC
Post #285451
I never once said I was offended, a conservative, or that I DIDN'T meet president bush. (kidding on that last one)
So while I'm at it, you know what else is predictable? Someone assuming I'm a conservative because I made a comment that very very VERY REMOTELY defended bush.
Rim: Would answering yes to such a question hurt your chances of getting the job..? Haha
So while I'm at it, you know what else is predictable? Someone assuming I'm a conservative because I made a comment that very very VERY REMOTELY defended bush.
Rim: Would answering yes to such a question hurt your chances of getting the job..? Haha
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:22:01 UTC
Post #285452
If you weren't offended why did you call Satchmo out like that? That was mean as shit.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:34:26 UTC
Post #285453
Because with his constant stabs at Bush, he strikes me as someone who jumped on the bush-hate bandwagon. I lash out the same to those who think bush was perfect because they shared the political party with him. Hell, I even get pissed when my dad says "How did we elect a <removed it cause I wasnt sure if it was bannable> into office?"
And I hereby remove myself from this thread, don't want to cause a shitstorm.
And I hereby remove myself from this thread, don't want to cause a shitstorm.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:39:50 UTC
Post #285455
I lash out the same to...You should try not lashing anyone. It works out.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:41:36 UTC
Post #285456
back on topic, kids
Video games are improving and advancing the way Americans are living, working and playingI disagree vehemently. My cousin who is the brother of the cousin in the pokemon thread played dota his entire high school career and went to a crappy college, and now he has a crappy job that he regrets for the rest of his life. Videogames I think, are not advancing the living standard for people, I don't believe it.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:43:57 UTC
Post #285457
Yeah, that happens when you get obsessed with any one thing, not just video games.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:46:07 UTC
Post #285458
My cousin who is the brother of the cousin in the pokemon thread played dota his entire high school career and went to a crappy collegeThere should be no such thing as a crappy college. Blame your school system instead, because it's obviously flawed.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 18:46:20 UTC
Post #285459
You should try not lashing anyone. It works out.Yeah, its a problem of mine, I'm impulsive. In fact I was just talking to a friend of mine about my impulsiveness. its something i have to work on.
And I hereby remove myself from this thread, don't want to cause a shitstorm.I lied, I'll be good.
and actually, 2MVG's comment made me think, are video games really improving the way people live and work? Personally I think it makes certain people more intelligent, and other people really stupid, so in a way it sorta affects how we live. I dunno..
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 19:03:31 UTC
Post #285464
I think it varies so greatly from person to person that there is no true answer to that. Crollo is right.
Also I think that one hundred percent of people who are addicted to video games would still be addicted to something else, anything else really, if games never existed.
The things people become addicted too should not be branded as the problem. Next thing you know you're spending billions on a war against that problem, only to find that you can't win it.
Also I think that one hundred percent of people who are addicted to video games would still be addicted to something else, anything else really, if games never existed.
The things people become addicted too should not be branded as the problem. Next thing you know you're spending billions on a war against that problem, only to find that you can't win it.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-17 19:08:58 UTC
Post #285466
yeah exactly, an addiction is a personal choice, a fault of the addicted (or to be addicted) person, not of the object they're addicted to. Addictions can spring up in so many objects too, it'd be ridiculous to brand them all as problems.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 00:33:08 UTC
Post #285478
Playing computer games doesn't make one into a genius, but it won't transform one into a moron either.
However, if children are motivated by computer games to further their education, I am all for that.
All I know is that making a good game requires a lot of planning, academic knowledge, not to mention creativity. All these things are attributes to make a person successful.
However, if children are motivated by computer games to further their education, I am all for that.
All I know is that making a good game requires a lot of planning, academic knowledge, not to mention creativity. All these things are attributes to make a person successful.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 06:24:55 UTC
Post #285485
One of the guys from my school has pretty much stopped turning up to school, and just stays at home playing his x-box.
Sure, he was an idiot to begin with, but that ain't helping his education, is it?
I'm not really taking a side, I'm just saying.
Sure, he was an idiot to begin with, but that ain't helping his education, is it?
I'm not really taking a side, I'm just saying.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 07:31:45 UTC
Post #285486
Well, then we have a solution to think about; Stop making mainstream games, and instead make games with good storylines, puzzles, inovation, and things that make you actually think, into mainstream games.
Maybe then the industry would be seen as art by the general public.
Maybe then the industry would be seen as art by the general public.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 08:59:35 UTC
Post #285490
Such games exist. You know what happens? No one buys them.
See Psychonauts and Beyond Good and Evil.
See Psychonauts and Beyond Good and Evil.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 09:04:15 UTC
Post #285491
The whole "games are art" thing seems to be a stretch of the imagination. Games are the result of combining many works of art together - so a game is more like an art gallery, rather than art itself.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 09:17:09 UTC
Post #285492
That's not it at all.
The success of our nation depends on how well we can pwn noobs.
The success of our nation depends on how well we can pwn noobs.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 09:25:14 UTC
Post #285493
You'll have to pwn most of your own country then. lol!
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 09:41:42 UTC
Post #285494
Seriously, you think a kid will buy a game like Brain Age versus a game with guns and explosions?
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 10:15:01 UTC
Post #285495
What if it combines the intelligence training and problem solving of Brain Age with guns and explosions?
I'd buy that.
I'd buy that.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 10:20:54 UTC
Post #285496
Omg can someone make a source mod brain age where each puzzle explodes and there's blood everywhere and shit?
I'd play it.
I'd play it.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 10:25:53 UTC
Post #285497
Or, you know, something like CS except with actual tactics and stuff. Maybe quick puzzles for defusing bombs?
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 10:54:11 UTC
Post #285498
From what I've read, puzzle games haven't been proven to help increase the intelligence of their players.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 11:46:56 UTC
Post #285500
I don't see why not, some games have some really inconspicuous puzzles (im thinking of Jedi Knight 2 right now.) that required some pretty damn good observation and inferencing skills, all of which got better for the next puzzle I encountered.
Edit: Didn't realize you said puzzle games, not puzzles in games. There's a difference.
Edit: Didn't realize you said puzzle games, not puzzles in games. There's a difference.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 13:43:05 UTC
Post #285502
I even like the puzzles in HL and HL2. I think they're not too difficult (like the ones in the Myst series, which are virtually impossible), yet they're satisfying when you figure it out.
I am a specialist who sees children with ADHD. I can tell that children with ADHD are clearly intelligent when they can beat a game in one day. But these children are often failing academically because of poor attention span.
I am a specialist who sees children with ADHD. I can tell that children with ADHD are clearly intelligent when they can beat a game in one day. But these children are often failing academically because of poor attention span.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 19:05:10 UTC
Post #285511
Well, look at Portal guys. It requires a bit of mental input to get past some of the challenges.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 20:04:22 UTC
Post #285513
...And as such, the average person hates it because it makes their brain hurt. Which is a shame, because they miss all the fun and all the witty dialogue they wouldn't get, since they quit before getting through the first test chamber.
Offtopic:
Offtopic:
children with ADHD are clearly intelligent when they can beat a game in one day. But these children are often failing academically because of poor attention span.One of the reasons school grades should not be used to measure someone's true intelligence.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 22:38:28 UTC
Post #285517
Portal was disappointingly short and easy, if anybody found that challenging or hard then there's something wrong.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 23:08:25 UTC
Post #285518
So I'm sure you beat all the timed and advanced challenges 100% then crollo? Good for you.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-18 23:21:42 UTC
Post #285519
The success of our nation depends on how well we can pwn noobs.In my opinion, they should replace several weeks in boot camp with several weeks in mom's basement playing CSS. Best soldiers money can buy.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-19 00:52:51 UTC
Post #285520
School grades are highly correlated to work performance. That's why academic matters.
Poor school performance means (1)poor attention span; (2)lack of motivation; (3)lack of intellect; (4)so many social/home distractions that one cannot focus.
Any of those conditions lead to poor work performance. This is why companies and bosses prefer hiring someone who has stellar academic record.
Back in college, I got one B+ in four years. The rest were A's or A+'s.
Poor school performance means (1)poor attention span; (2)lack of motivation; (3)lack of intellect; (4)so many social/home distractions that one cannot focus.
Any of those conditions lead to poor work performance. This is why companies and bosses prefer hiring someone who has stellar academic record.
Back in college, I got one B+ in four years. The rest were A's or A+'s.
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-19 01:08:28 UTC
Post #285522
Banjo Kazooie is a piece of art.
Oh yea... And... Nobama!
Oh yea... And... Nobama!
Posted 14 years ago2010-09-19 02:14:25 UTC
Post #285523
Any evidence that Obama knows anything about games at all, or has even bothered playing any? I mean, you do realize he reads off prepared speeches, right?
I doubt the guy would have enough time, even if he wanted to. That's like 30 minutes to an hour of the president's time every week that he most likely doesn't have.
I doubt the guy would have enough time, even if he wanted to. That's like 30 minutes to an hour of the president's time every week that he most likely doesn't have.
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