Announcing the public beta of my new map: de_twhl2011 for CS 1.6.

It's been far too many years since someone made a tribute map to the community, and after we had such a blast on the TWHL 1.6 Retro server, I was inspired to take a break from The Core and make this.TWHL, an innocent enough looking business has just signed a US defence cargo deal. USMC equipment, including high explosives is now being handled and shipped by TWHL staff. An unnamed terrorist organisation has learned of this under the table deal and aims to destroy either the latest shipment of explosives or TWHL's server mainframe - crippling the company for years to come.
The terrorists were attempting to gain access to the loading bay when a TWHL receptionist by the name of Antanas Budvytis spotted them and alerted the authorities. It's now a race against time as the private security force employed by TWHL arrive on the scene.

Counter Terrorists: Prevent Terrorists from
bombing either the server room (B) or the shipment of explosives (A).

Terrorists: Basically the opposite.

Direct Download (4.6mb)

Please post any comments, suggestions and/or bug reports in this thread.

The map will be added to the server next week, and there will be a competition with a prize probably on Saturday the 28th May.

Cheers

Win!

I thought the first shot was source before I maximized it. Awesome texture set...

Looks absolutely great.

I'll release the .wad and .rmf when it's final. Anyone actually downloaded it? Thoughts on layout?

Looks awesome. I'll definitely want to check it out when I get back to my desktop in a few days.
I'll try to come up with a thorough review when that time comes.

I like how there's a really short path to combat @ the underpass. I think it's nicely sized for the number of people what we'd have playing in that it doesn't take long to get anywhere from anywhere. And you know not to leave yourself logged onto facebook on shared computers. Much less twice.

Who says I'm logged on? Much more likely is it's all the lady employees checkin' mah profilez. :3

Cheers for the comment, mate.

Edit:
By 'lady employees', read 'urby'.

Because urby is hot?

Downloading. From the screenies, I can only say it looks good but I have a problem with those chairs. Those are dining room chairs, not office chairs. I'd also turn them into func_somethings and set their angle to != 0.

Because urby is hot?

man i was totally thinking the same thing!

and, good work, The Hunter.

Looks great and oldschoolish. You have created really nice atmosphere.

Wow this is amazing! Great map Huntey, cant wait to see it finished.

Lol that crate is freakin hilarious! Nice map dude your proving "thus worthy". Uhh, geter in the vault too eh?

haha YES downloading!

Played through it myself, very well made, couldn't tell an error anywhere. It almost makes me want to play Counter-Strike.

super map! i like these simple, clean textures and the brushwork looks great everything fits together

Thanks for the comments, folks

That looks insanely good, but CS, meh...

This map looks really nice and clean but for a bomb defuse map, it's quite small. It's even more weird when you have 2 bomb sites. Also, the layout(which I like) assures a fast gameplay style, more specific to fy maps.

Also, sincerely, I expected more easter eggs.
Is this the final version? It'll be a great addition to the server. I hope I will be able to playetest too on 28(unless we die in 21 :D).

but CS, meh.

Ach, live a little

it's quite small. It's even more weird when you have 2 bomb sites.

defusion maps with only one bomb site are always a pain to play, regardless of the size. But don't let the size of this map fool you - it's actually a fairly complicated layout compacted into a relatively small area. I'm actually quite interested to see how it plays, because I put a lot of thought into making it as balanced as possible.

sincerely, I expected more easter eggs.

There's quite a few :3

Is this the final version?

No, this is a public beta. It's more or less finished, but still needs some touching up like extending the street at CT spawn. I'm also hoping people will report bugs in this thread.

If I could rate this from 1-10, I'd rate it epic...which is clearly above 10.

I love how clean the map is. The architecture is outstanding. The textures are amazing, but could use detail textures. I love how you're not afraid to waste a bit of r_speed for a lot of detail, something that most GoldSrc developers don't do. All it needs are detail textures, as previously stated, and func_vehicles! HELLZ YEAH.

Those are dining room chairs, not office chairs. I'd also turn them into func_somethings and set their angle to != 0.

Those are not dining room chairs. Those are "Oh fuck, these office chairs are causing all sorts of rendering issues, I had better simplify them" chairs. They are func_walls and some are rotated, but I tried to keep it to 45 degrees to stop players getting stuck on them. Edit: Actually, no, I must have gotten rid of the 45 degree ones as well. Ask Daubster how much trouble those chairs were causing

Cheers dexter, but absolutely no about the func_vehicles :3

Played it with a friend. Really fun small map. But I think respawns are too close to each other. And as I said some textures are way too clean.

Superb stuff!

I love the small detail like those concrete barriers and the cubicles, and the overall presentation of the map is extraordinary!

minor nitpicks

Maybe add some minor detail to make the map feel more "lived in":

trash cans
rubbish
food/food containers(PIZZA IN TEH CONFERENCE ROOM)
nick-nacks at peoples cubicles
projector ala office someplace
file cabinets
etc etc etc

A couple distractions i noticed:

The board room door texture is is strange
No railings on the stairwells
chairs don't really fit and scaled a little big imo
main reception area is begging for detail
doors you can't open should give you the "locked" sound
use a trigger so double doors open together

Most of the above are very small complaints imo and easily fixed. I DO realize the constraints put on you by the limits of the engine tho, so i understand not being able to add everything you might like. If your epoly budget is ok, maybe change a bunch of the small detail stuff to models?

ANYWAY, SEXELLENT stuff mah man, Bravo! Very impressive.

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Hey guys. Having a bit of trouble finalising this due to things not resetting properly at the start of rounds. Can anyone give me a hand?

At the moment I'm using a multimanager with the name "game_playerspawn" which causes it to fire when players spawn at the start of the round. It seemed to work fine until in a playtest, a player joined half way through a round and all the entities the multimanager targets were fired, ruining it.

What's a better way to reset things like env_renders and func_rotatings at the start of each round?

round_start

Ha, seriously?
Is there a list of entity names which have effects like this?

Well...

It seems that Google did the magic for me: The List

That page says that you can find them in the OrangeBox "resourcegameevents.res" file.
I bet you can do a lot of cool stuff with those event commands. Have fun.

Goldsource, dude.

Damn. Some time passed since the betatest, and the screens fooled me. Sorry.

Yep, just tried round_start to no avail. Must be Source only.
Anyone got any ideas?

I remember about some way of resetting things each round with a door. But the memory of that is so full of fog...

[EDIT] Aha! But I remembered that I read this on Egir a long time ago. Here's the tutorial.

you legend. Nice one! Added a (c)striker easter egg as thanks.

That, or you could just get a trigger_auto with it's value set to off, to trigger off the entity you want it to. trigger_auto's reset every round.

That is nice. Thank you too.

Wow, from the screenshots this looks awesome. The textures are fresh!

Would love to try this out on the server, hit me up next time people are playing.

MAP RELEASED!
PROMO VIDEO

trigger_auto was only working for 1 round, Skals. Don't know why. Presumably it's a common problem though, otherwise why would anyone bother writing a tutorial about the door method (which worked perfectly).

Anyway, the map is released! Yaaay.
If a mod wants to adjust the first post in this thread with the updated link, that'd be great.

Grab the final map here!

Want to see how I did something?
Check out the source files (rmf and wad) here!
Please do not steal my content. I'm happy for you to learn from this map, and you're welcome to use the .wad (although crediting me would be nice), but please don't directly copy from the map.

Edit:
You know, I still have that server we hosted the TWHL retro tournament on. I'd be willing to host a match on this for a modest prize. What date/time would suit everyone?
Could I entice competitors into writing reviews of the map, or is that extortion? :3

The door trick only works if the door is not moving at the time the round resets. Otherwise, the door will start the following round in its open position and everything will be again all screwed up.

It looks superb mate. It's refreshing to see a range of colours in a level. Good stuff.

P.S. The crate joke made me lol.

Lol, Spike asked Penguinboy to unban him on the video's comments. And I wondered where he disappeared...

trigger_auto was only working for 1 round, Skals. Don't know why. Presumably it's a common problem though, otherwise why would anyone bother writing a tutorial about the door method (which worked perfectly).

You need the latest fgd. It works well, unless you set it up wrongly.

trigger_auto only triggers once directly after map load, not every round.

I don't know what kind of trigger_auto you're talking about.

I challenge you to create a very simple example map demonstrating the use of a trigger_auto to trigger something every round.

Go make one yourself.

I can't. No one can.

wow, you failz then.

You're either a liar, a troll or a bad loser. Which one is it?

Riiight...

So when do you guys want a match?
£15 Steam prize, as usual.

I can play any day and any time except between 05:00 and 15:30 British time.