Broken Hammer Created 13 years ago2011-10-15 23:57:03 UTC by Dimbeak

Is there any specific reason that my hammer on Source SDK doesn't have any grids? The grids aren't really.. there, I can't map or do anything at all, and I even tried reinstalling it. Is there a fix, or is this happening to everybodys?

Oh for christ sake, Not again. Come on Valve, get your shit in gear.

fellas you're not gonna like it ,

Options>> 2D views >> - uncheck the White on Black Color scheme.
It's painful to look at but you can map.

But not through the textured view...

Textured view.. try 3D textured/shaded
Also, Dotted grid.

Man, only Valve could release a TF2 item thing and BREAK EVERYTHING ELSE ALONG WITH IT.

I don't get it, I get called an idiot when SourceSDK broke the last time, so where's rabidmonkey and everybody else to stir up shit this time? On vacation by chance?

I don't know which time you're referring to, but I imagine it's probably your methods of communication which resulted in you being called an idiot, not the subject matter itself.

Back sometime earlier in 2011 or maybe late 2010, I originally posted 2 links, one of them was THIRTY PAGES of people reporting the exact same thing, that hammer [And sourcesdk entirely] was completely unusable, but contempt the notion it was, that hammer has always had 'little bugs', dispite the fact that the ENTIRE SOURCESDK WAS UNUSABLE, and it had absolutely nothing to do with the 'small bugs' that always plague hammer.

But now, now that Dimbark, possibly the second lowest respected member on the site just simply posts posts that he's 'having problems with hammer', suddenly everybody rolls over and just believes that the sourcesdk is actually broken? Seriously, what the fuck.

Calm down.

Sheesh.

I'm just saying, this double standard [Oh crollo posted it, it must be wrong] is getting old and here has just gotten to a completely idiotic level.

I am seriously growing tired of this, it was fun at first watching how everybody felt entitled and glorious that it's perfectly okay to just dump on me for no reason, but it's when Aaron posted something that defended me everybody suddenly stopped bashing and my 'idiotic', 'moronic' 'bullshit' argument was suddenly a completely valid one to everybody?

Yeah, sometimes I do post offensive or negative things, but it's when I post something that has no offense to it whatsoever, and just because it's posted by me everybody twists my words and mis-comprehends the meaning behind what I'm saying and uses that as leverage to bash me just because they don't like me, and yet I can't do anything but just 'accept' this as it is because if I so much as say one thing back, I get moderated on the spot.

What relevance does any of this have to the thread? Think about the fact that Dimbark DID in fact just post "my viewports are black" and it's 'accepted', but I couldn't 'prove' it dispite having concrete evidence on several occasions.

I'd say if people were upset about anything, it's the way you said it, not what you said.

I remember that update, and just how broken the SDK was. It had been weeks without an update, but the SDK was only broken for certain games and certain setups, and there were workarounds. Every time the SDK breaks the rage flares up again, you were just late to the point. You missed the "rage party".

Read this thread back and tell me just how mad people are about the SDK. Also tell me just how many people are rolling over and blindly believing Dimbark.

We're over it. Calm down.

You're also forgetting the history you have on this site. Do you really expect people to trust you outright?

Yes, we have indeed moved on from the Sourcesdk incident a while back, but I'm not talking about the sourcesdk incident, I'm talking about the attitude against me, and only using the SDK incident merely as an example, apologies for not clarifying that correctly.

I am well aware of my 'history' on this site, I have never forgotten that, however holding my 'history' against me now is like those dumbfuck Americans that don't want to send help to Japan because of Pearl Harbor. If i post something stupid then of course I'm going to get shit, I'm not saying everybody should love me, but it's when I get bashed without reason or proper cause is when it's not a matter of just 'history', Strider.
(EDIT: Actually I suppose I'm twisting your words a bit now too... Apologies.)

I'm sorry for talking in such a negative tone towards you but honestly, Thehalflifedude was a long time ago. Why does it have to be held against me now? I feel as though PB let's me stay on the site only because he thinks I'll just rejoin if he bans me, and this is incorrect. I rejoined to apologize for my behavior and beyond that point my membership served no purpose. He very easily could have banned me and that would be the end of it.

TL;DR because I'm shit at wording and examples:
I've got no problem with people disliking me, but it's when I get shit for posting something that was not intended in any negative light whatsoever and was simply done out of hatred towards me, (be it due to my history or other things) is when I'm going to start getting annoyed.
Much like with Dimbark, I really don't see how some of you fucktards can just dump on him and bash him just because you dislike him, instead of bashing him because he actually posted something offensive or stupid, does it make you feel empowered? Somehow better?

Man, shut the hell up. Nobody cares.

Damn you guys got issues.

A quick fix is to create a 2007 mod as it still works (Like I said in the Compo31 thread) then compile using any version of the SDK through VBCT.

It must be a 07 mod, not 07 defaults. Hammer will work this way, perfectly normal.

But now, now that Dimbark, possibly the second lowest respected member on the site just simply posts posts that he's 'having problems with hammer', suddenly everybody rolls over and just believes that the sourcesdk is actually broken? Seriously, what the fuck.

Source SDK is actually broken.

I am seriously growing tired of this, it was fun at first watching how everybody felt entitled and glorious that it's perfectly okay to just dump on me for no reason, but it's when Aaron posted something that defended me everybody suddenly stopped bashing and my 'idiotic', 'moronic' 'bullshit' argument was suddenly a completely valid one to everybody?

I agreed with your point of just stating the facts before aaron posted, I was late posting so what has been left for me to say was "I agree with aaron that...".

Man, shut the hell up. Nobody cares.

I care. We should all care. I'm not being sentimental here

Right guys can we stop the domestic and focus on the matters at hand , please?

I can't map with these ugly views. Sure, it offers me the basic functionality, but I can't clearly see lines, it's hard to position new elements, and I have to guess if the clipping tool will work the way I want to.
Also, the water is black and every sprite is black.

Just make an 07 mod for the time being then.

so
here's what you do
1) close steam
2) open steam
2a) there's a new SDK update
2b) it's fixed

I confirm:

[i]Updates to Source SDK have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:

• Fixed black viewport problem in Hammer as well as all black textures in model viewer[/i]

But it automatically crashes every time you try to open the VGUI menu.

Yes it does, but thankfully this is a texture pack compo and we're not going to need models really.

Lucky for you there's an option in Hammer to turn off the VGUI model browser.

holding my 'history' against me now is like those dumbfuck Americans that don't want to send help to Japan because of Pearl Harbor.

That's retarded because none of the people responsible for Pearl Harbor are still alive (Except, arguably Michael Bay). Blaming people who weren't even born at the time of Pearl Harbor is ridiculous, especially when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were more than retribution enough.

You're still the same person, and whether you've grown up and changed or not is not the question because you alienated so many people back then. I think until two of your cities are nuked, people will have a lower opinion of you than others.

Regarding people hating on your posts being purely because of that? No.
That stuff you were posting in Instant Mix's journal for example was seriously insensitive and that's why people called you out on it - not because of your history.

Rather than blaming the community & your history for the way they treat you, maybe you should read over your posts more carefully before you post them and consider what sort of tone they have. Seriously so many of your posts just make you sound like such an asshole it's unreal. I quite happily call you a dickhead, but only when you're being a dickhead. I don't do it because of your history.

lol after the update source sdk is freezing in viewports epic

Great, although the 2D views are fixed now, the water has a pink-black checkered look. And there's no 3D texture shaded polygons- it doesn't work.

Oh, and disabling VGUI browser for the props doesn't work- it still crashes!

Hammer is broken again.

[EDIT] Wait, no it isn't. But it was accidentally put on Source MP. Which begs the question: what's this new option for?

http://store.steampowered.com/news/6562/

[quote]Updates to Source SDK have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:

• This update addresses all know issues introduced over the past week including:
• Crash when opening the VGUI model browser in Hammer
• Hammer lockups
• Black textures in Hammer, HLMV, and Faceposer
• Added a new Engine Version called ‘Source Engine MP’ which is the proper one to select if working with Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike:Source, or Day of Defeat: Source. Users should select ‘Reset Game Configurations’ in the SDK Launcher so that these games become properly associated with the new engine version.
• Tools binaries for Portal, Half-Life 2 and its episodes are now located in a directory called ‘sourcesdk/bin/source2009/bin’. Users may need to update shortcuts they’ve created for vtex.exe, studiomdl.exe, etc. in order to ensure they are using the proper versions of these tools. The binaries used for modifying Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike:Source, or Day of Defeat: Source remain in the ‘sourcesdk/bin/orangebox/bin’. [/quote]

I'm also gonna complain that vrad.exe still halts, with 0% CPU consumption. What the fuck is happening, I don't even have errors in the map!
This is why mapping for this fucking engine looses interest gradually for me, even though I'm willing to map!

have u guys get it working?
after the update my viewports are completely black, when i select source engine 2009 it seems to work but the editor completely freezes

That's something in which modified,pirated versions are better.I NEVER had such problems man!
But since I don't want to be kicked from the site I won't say anything else...