Team Mapping 2 Created 11 years ago2012-08-23 13:53:07 UTC by Captain Terror Captain Terror

Created 11 years ago2012-08-23 13:53:07 UTC by Captain Terror Captain Terror

Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 14:04:10 UTC Post #309270
Ok.

We did so well on the first one, and people seem to be interested in doing this again, so:

Team Mapping 2
Same as before, the idea behind this is to all join our mapping skill to quickly turn out a near-to-professional-quality map we can, in a short amount of time, though we agree not to rush or agonize about this, it is above all for fun ;)

NO set deadlines, NO set responsibilities, though i encourage EVERYONE to step up in a leadership role , especially when the opportunity presents itself, i.e. you have an awesome idea at something you know your good at and would benefit/enrich the mod.

request
can someone experienced with dropbox or similar set us up, so we have a common place to share content right away?
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 14:04:28 UTC Post #309271
So is this a mod this time?
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 14:17:50 UTC Post #309272
map/mod, pool/pond =)

it's whatever we all want it to be, maybe it's more than one thing, so i'm sorry i interchanged those terms, but you bring up a good point ;)

i know what i'd like to do and what my vision of the project should be, but maybe you-all have a more-funner idea, so this is brainstorming time people.

I'd love to do a csgo project like Blitzachu and i were shoutboxing, but i'm down for anything.

Edit
Upon thinking more, personally, i like the idea of "map" more, just because it implies less commitment and a fast time-to-completion, but either way.. :)
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 14:28:24 UTC Post #309273
A CSGO map would certainly be the obvious choice. +1 for that.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 14:58:49 UTC Post #309274
Fair enough. I also vote CSGO map. I don't know how involved I can be though since I only have the Beta version.
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 15:17:55 UTC Post #309275
How come you have the beta version? It's been released.
I vote too for CS:GO, and contrary to what CT said, I say we shouldn't map "asap", instead we should take our time. Especially now when college is coming, and some of us still aren't around the forums.
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 15:32:57 UTC Post #309276
I would like to join this project!
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 15:50:16 UTC Post #309277
So the mod idea is scrapped i guess ?
Love to join if its not CS:GO
rufee rufeeSledge fanboy
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 16:56:00 UTC Post #309281
Cstriker
i never said we have to finish it asap, my exact words from above:
...though we agree not to rush or agonize about this, it is above all for fun...
rufee: it's gonna be csgo looks like, at least for this one, but i'm sure we'll do this again, and i wouldn't count out anything for future projects, even goldsource to do some retro thing, who knows :)
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 18:24:48 UTC Post #309282
I vote CSGO.

And if you want, I can set up a dropbox. I just need your emails for it so I can set up our folder.
Dimbeak DimbeakRotten Bastard
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 19:00:06 UTC Post #309283
Awesome Dimmeh! =)

captain0terror@gmail.com
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 19:04:02 UTC Post #309284
I vote CSGO as well, seems the obvious choice.

I'm pretty adamant that no mapping at all should happen until we have sorted out our vision of the map before hand. That means layout, a collection of reference images, I'm sure some of us can bang out some concept pics of the map using the references once we have the layout down too.

Obviously changes will be made once we get started, that's inevitable. I also really don't think anyone should make any sudden major additions (new buildings or areas) without throwing their idea out in the thread here.

Last time I think we got a really good taste of people's strong points. We should look at that to see who fits what roles best (maybe Archie should be nominated the "lighting lead" for example). Perhaps we could persuade Rimrook to guide us in the right direction with the layout.

Just my two cents.
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 19:37:03 UTC Post #309285
Indeed Blitzenclaus, we need to plan the f out of this, since the last one was more a free-range approach :)

No matter what archie does, it's gonna be good, i'm just saying, but yeah.

I nominate skals/stojke to handle the layout right off the bat, since they did such a wonderful job on skals c31 map.

BTW, what is everyone thinking for a theme? should we do a classic map that hasn't been offered by CSGO yet--like cs_assault--, or make something completely new?
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 19:45:18 UTC Post #309288
CT, you did say
in a short amount of time
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 21:10:17 UTC Post #309295
fair enough stryker :)

allow me to qualify now by saying a relatively short period of time. I'm all for the it's done when it's done philosophy.
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 22:23:09 UTC Post #309296
In response to your last question CT, I definitely think this map should be original. That being said, an asymmetrical assault-a-fort type hostage map would be my vote, in the vein of cs_assault or cs_militia or cs_miami. Those are the most fun in my opinion, and seeing as CS finally has halftime built right into the game I think a kickass asymmetrical map would be very nice.
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 23:00:16 UTC Post #309298
+1 for asymmetrical hostage rescue map.

What about theme?
I always loved Prodigy's soviet missile base style.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-23 23:04:36 UTC Post #309299
How come you have the beta version? It's been released.
Lost my job last month? Money kinda needs to go elsewhere.
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 14:16:46 UTC Post #309320
urby is the beta still working now after the official release?

if no, you can still edit all your work in cs:s hammer; your work will have to be recompiled in csgo, but no biggie ;)
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 14:28:59 UTC Post #309322
Ok, me and Stojke can do the layout. Stojke here probably being the biggest cs freak out of anyone.

We need a theme, ideas for buildings, you know that kind of thing.

Assault theme sounds nice to me, and asymmetrical is good too, with team swap I agree that having slightly unbalanced sides will do no harm.

Let's just first vote on a proper theme before we start making anything. We need a country/location, style of building etc. Also some reference images of the theme that has been chosen will be of great help too.
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 16:56:53 UTC Post #309337
Theme is a toughie i'm coming up blank for ideas for that... i'm gonna image random locations and see if any ideas come :)

I love the original assault industrial/city theme, but i know we want to be original..
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 17:24:19 UTC Post #309338
May I propose something along the lines of Urban debris, perhaps some abandoned Russian block styled buildings, that type of thing if you can imagine, and the terrorists are using these abandoned buildings as hideout, and have placed the hostages there. That could be a pretty good theme for a hostage/rescue map.
The way I am imagining it is, on the outskirts of a somewhat large city somewhere in either Russia or eastern Europe (where the Russian block buildings are common), there is a set of abandoned concrete buildings, it's not a big open area, instead imagine something like assault where it's surrounded by tall buildings, and the fighting takes inbetween them and inside some of the buildings.

If anyone doesn't know what I mean by Russian Block houses, this is what I mean:
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This one is kinda cool:
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Imagine the first and second floors being accessible, and the players could have a shootout in between the two buildings, with the hostages having to go across from one building to the other through that hot spot.

Of course this theme is quite realistic, because it's very common for the Communists to abandon one of these buildings half-built as they move on to a different area, so there are a lot of them empty all over Eastern Europe.

It's just one idea. If y'all guys don't want to map something like this, that's fine. Just putting idea number.1 across. Keep the ideas coming!
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 18:11:27 UTC Post #309339
Lost my job last month? Money kinda needs to go elsewhere.
Sooo... you won Archie's competition which was supposed to give you 15$ Steam games. Just pointing out.

Can we include a building like this?
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Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 19:06:38 UTC Post #309342
Can we include a building like this?
Mmm, a map like cs_estate, except unlike every version of cs_estate ever we make it so the gameplay doesn't suck! I like that idea more than the abandoned flats - they feel too Modern Warfare-ish
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 19:56:28 UTC Post #309345
Yet we need to acquire more photos of mansions.
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:12:27 UTC Post #309346
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I like the estate idea. I also like the idea of setting it in the evening or really early morning. Early early morning tends to be when raids are done (I would know, I stayed over at a house that had a warrant served the next day. I was the first one they got. Woke up to being handcuffed....

Anyways, perhaps the estate could have a small guest house or two on the property, like this:
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Theme could be tropical too I suppose, thoughts? Ideas?
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:13:35 UTC Post #309347
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DEM ATTACK ANGLES.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:16:24 UTC Post #309348
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This one really has the colors/evening or early setting I'm imagining. I think it's really pretty.

IKR about the angles. Also it's so pretty. Much more interesting to both design and play in than some decaying buildings I think.
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:17:06 UTC Post #309349
Actually, I also have some photos of a couple of castle and medieval constructions I took last year. I'll see what I can do tomorrow, it's late now.
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:19:42 UTC Post #309350
Cool, I bet we could draw from some of the architecture. Even if the estate itself ends up being modern, the architect that designed it could've been a big fan of medieval architecture.

That last pic I posted was just a lighting suggestion/example of a tropical setting. Doesn't have to look like that.

Also those bricks are really cool I think.
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:26:46 UTC Post #309351
Oh man, I'm going to have to get CS:GO just to play the final version of this map, the way the planning is looking...
Blitz, mind telling us what that warrant was for?
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:33:45 UTC Post #309352
I love the idea of an estate/palace type map, and those are some great reference pics guize! =)
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:38:42 UTC Post #309353
Sure, was staying with a friend who shared an apartment with three people who went to the same school. Apparently one of the kids was selling pot, and some dickhead who had a problem with him I guess tipped off the police.

I just by chance picked the wrong night to be there is all, they sent all the rest of us on our ways within 20 minutes or so and they even apologized for the inconvenience. I got handcuffed "for my safety and for yours" until they sorted out who was who. No biggie.
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 20:57:47 UTC Post #309356
Also those bricks are really cool I think.
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Don't actually use these, btw. The jpegs are compressed to hell.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 21:24:46 UTC Post #309359
I dig it.
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-24 22:14:49 UTC Post #309361
One of the architectural photos I've taken:

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The clock tower by Carstic Productions, on Flickr

I have some photos with a famous castle in our country, if I have time I'll have to see what's good to upload and also link them here.
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-25 05:01:40 UTC Post #309366
@up
looks like italy, inferno style ^^

i am in for sure but we should not map a large area like in team mapping 1, something with stable FPS etc... :P
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-25 06:13:44 UTC Post #309368
I like the idea of an estate early in the morning, could get some ultra sexy hdr lighting in there.

Be careful with that theme though, cause CS:GO already has one estate like map, although it is quite different from this idea. We can do something very similar to estate from cs1.6, where you can access all of the estate plus the garden area around it and slightly outside of it.

A castle theme would be very nice too. Actually I would prefer it. But where will you pull the reference images? :P
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-25 09:23:17 UTC Post #309369
cs_estate idea, along with those mansion photos, makes me all kinds of moist.
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-25 14:33:02 UTC Post #309375
ew, no, just no.
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-25 15:49:17 UTC Post #309376
What, it doesn't make your mouth water?
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-25 18:14:08 UTC Post #309380
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Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-25 19:29:37 UTC Post #309381
b'aww... right?! i mean, probably the cutest kiki gif ever..
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2012-08-26 19:13:49 UTC Post #309408
cs_estate idea, along with those mansion photos, makes me all kinds of moist.
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Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 11 years ago2012-11-10 19:53:08 UTC Post #310879
Why did this just die ?
Me wanna make something !
rufee rufeeSledge fanboy
Posted 11 years ago2012-11-11 02:13:46 UTC Post #310882
Yeah guys, I want to see this made!
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 11 years ago2012-11-11 17:20:46 UTC Post #310893
i would like to make a goldsrc mod where u will be traveling in time or something like that ^^
Posted 11 years ago2012-11-11 17:25:14 UTC Post #310894
Yeah, I'm afraid a team project for me would be GoldSource or nothing.
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
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