a most be-baffling problem Created 20 years ago2004-09-22 18:02:19 UTC by silikon90

this is really weird

i can compile my map fine with CSG & BSP, with CSG & BSP & VIS, with CSG & BSP & RAD, but not with CSG & BSP & VIS & RAD all together. there's no apparent errors--no warnings or errors in the .log file, nothing in Hammer's problem checking button, nothing when i run the console....im so confused!

what happens when I use all csg and bsp and vis and rad: it compiles all the way through, then when counterstrike starts up, it immediately just returns to hammer, without any warning or popup or anything. that's only when using ALL the compile tools, otherwise it's fine, so i don't think its a problem with WADS (which i only have about 4 or 5 of), or directories.

does ANYone know what's going on??

by the way, i AM using zoners

Things that can cause HL to crash without any error message, besides 'Fatal error':

• Two path_corners, that are directly connected to each other, lie at the same point.
• (steam only) Detail textures that are bigger than 512?.
• Having insufficient info_landmarks. There must be one info_landmark for each trigger_changelevel.

I'm afraid none of those will help here.
The best thing you could do is uploading the map to the problems vault and let people try themselves.

Perhaps your mpas light...map - or whatever you call it - is too large. Without VIS, RAD compiles less lighting.

If your map isn't large or doesn't have lots of lights and lighting, then you don't have this problem

It could also be an AAAtrigger texture not tied to an entity, that tends to screw up lighting.

Usually memory limit exceedings produce compile errors.
But you could still compile again and add the -chart parameter to HLRAD.
It shows memory limits for everything and how close you are to them.

man i finally got it to work

i think it was a memory problem after all, i changed my sky box to fit the map and not surround it, cutting the visibility matrix by a fourth, and all went well. thanks for the help guys

Well no wonder it was screwed. Never use skyboxes, they be bad.

There's a lesson to be learned here.. not sure what it is though