Competition 25 Created 11 years ago2008-03-02 06:46:36 UTC by Penguinboy Penguinboy

Created 11 years ago2008-03-02 06:46:36 UTC by Penguinboy Penguinboy

Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 01:33:14 UTC Post #252416
"gameplays crap" isn't critisizm, its klobbering.

-Imus you should get halflife 1 to check mine out. I saw your haunted house and thought it was awesome.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 01:35:15 UTC Post #252417
-You made pingpong invented by saggy bottoms bob mcenzee in 1642 you ball.
That's pretty klobberish too.

I spent a nice length of time on that entity setup.
TheGrimReafer TheGrimReaferADMININATOR
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 01:38:16 UTC Post #252418
"gameplays crap" isn't critisizm, its klobbering. -You made pingpong invented by saggy bottoms bob mcenzee in 1642 you ball.

That's pretty klobberish too.
you're both right. BRING ON THE NEXT CHALLENGE!
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 01:40:57 UTC Post #252419
;o
TheGrimReafer TheGrimReaferADMININATOR
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 01:41:39 UTC Post #252420
Sorry for bashin on your entry deathan, thought it was reafers. The architecture and lightings were tight but I didn't like the gameplay. And reaf you know calling someones stuff crap isn't constructive criticizm.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 01:56:07 UTC Post #252421
BRING ON THE NEXT CHALLENGE!
Post the next compo quick while all this animosity is still in the air. It could make some epic mapping!
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 04:03:54 UTC Post #252422
saggy bottoms bob mcenzee
I lol'd. :D
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 04:25:48 UTC Post #252423
Post the next compo quick while all this animosity is still in the air. It could make some epic mapping!
How about, inventing a medium sized raid level for hl1 or hl2, with lots of mobs bosses and randomness?
Skals SkalsGame / Level Designer
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 04:40:31 UTC Post #252424
i've already said that the next compo will be for portal.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 05:07:14 UTC Post #252425
.. what about us GldSrc mappers? :<
Daubster DaubsterVault Dweller
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 05:29:15 UTC Post #252426
portal = fail
Skals SkalsGame / Level Designer
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 05:41:52 UTC Post #252427
I don't know what Pb is planning but I don't want a competition that rules out like.. 70% of TWHL's mapping members. :\
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 05:58:46 UTC Post #252428
I might just pre-emptively disqualify you from every compo for that comment, Skals.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 06:13:26 UTC Post #252429
If he had said "Portal = not that great" I would've agreed with him.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 07:03:43 UTC Post #252431
i highly doubt that 70% of active twhl members don't have portal.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 07:07:52 UTC Post #252432
I dont have portal..Its either i sigh.. Download portal or wait for PB to change his ideas...sigh
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 07:08:28 UTC Post #252433
Pb: the largest majority of members here map for GldSrc, that should be obvious.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 07:41:45 UTC Post #252434
I apologise for anyone that was offended by the results, but the basis of every competition's results is based on the opinion of the judge(s).

I take full responsibility for the results, as the prizes are being supplied by myself. I stand by Penguinboy's list of results.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 07:44:08 UTC Post #252435
well i can't do two official competitions at the same time, so i think that the next one will be a source compo and the one after will be goldsource. joint competitions are kinda unfair to the judges and entrants.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 08:56:34 UTC Post #252437
I won't even be participating (year 12) but doing a portal exclusive competition is silly, it's not like we get many entries anyway, I think source mods is a lot more rational, I can understand that.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 08:58:45 UTC Post #252438
Portal is mod for Half-Life 2, and you have to buy it separately?
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 09:01:12 UTC Post #252439
from half-life 2 yes, but it comes with orange box.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 10:42:25 UTC Post #252440
But everyone should own the orange box by now.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 11:34:28 UTC Post #252441
Ant if you agree with penguinboy's judgement, do you think my entry was crap too?
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 11:40:29 UTC Post #252442
my entry was disqualified :P
Skals SkalsGame / Level Designer
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 11:45:22 UTC Post #252443
You really need to drop this, zeeba-G. Penguinboy could have and really should have written those reviews far more constructively, but that doesn't change the fact that he felt the the 3 other entries deserved to win more than yours.

Here's a question for you now, do you think that because YOU deserved to win, the other three people didn't?
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 12:10:33 UTC Post #252444
Zeeba, i enjoyed your entry. It was a bit frustrating, but all -in-all pretty well put together.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 12:27:58 UTC Post #252445
Aaah, i love the smell of E-drama in the morning.

I think a portal only competition wouldnt really work since many members dont have portal. I know i havent(i did play the first slice thingy demo). But a portal inspired competition could be pretty cool.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 13:00:53 UTC Post #252446
I didn't even win 3rd place wth. Maybe if the people judging the maps were even good at mapping at all themselves it would be fair.
That, son, is the definition of a poor loser.

I might have to enter a Portal based compo, even though I haven't mapped for source in like 2 years.
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 13:50:31 UTC Post #252447
Ditto.
I'll map for portal. My computer is going to hate me for it, but it'll be a long, hard learning experience. :)
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 14:36:52 UTC Post #252449
I think Zeeba-G gets special mention for all this. I liked his entry too. The first part was awesomely mapped and the some of the sounds were retro as hell.

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Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 17:00:48 UTC Post #252451
lol thanks Rimrook :glad: I remember back than when the first place winner won he got to choose three options for the next comp. and the admin would choose one of them. That would be more drive to enter. And I have portal myself but don't really like it and definetly don't map for it little alone hl2 because of annoyingly long compile times.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 17:23:04 UTC Post #252452
i think the compos should be 2 months each and every other month, one is judged and restarted. Gives optimal time for entries to get awesome looking and plenty of time to finish and tweak without worries. that or we need a judging team for both source and goldz0rz, like the MotM team.

EDIT: oh yeah, the HL tentacles always give me the Zeebie-Geebies.
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 17:36:59 UTC Post #252453
Yay i placed and i feel proud. :badass:

Thanks to Saw, Zeeba, GrimReaf, Tetsu0, and PB for the nice comments. I'm putting my map in the vault soon for moar comments since it placed so i look forward to moar.

P

Zeeba: I loved your entry and it's obvious it was a lot of work. Plus, i love Metroid and i seriously thought of doing the original game or Zero mission for the compo too! I hope you still participate in the future competitions! = O
portal inspired competition could be pretty cool.
I think that's an outstanding idea if i read you correctly: Make a map for Portal, or, a Source/Goldsource themed map would be friggin awsome.

Portal <3.
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 17:43:14 UTC Post #252454
Kinda like rim sayd, I think there should be more than one judge.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 18:39:45 UTC Post #252455
I remember back than when the first place winner won he got to choose three options for the next comp.
That hasn't changed, this was the first duel-engine compo judged seperately however, so things will be a little different.
I think there should be more than one judge.
There typically is two judges. This one time Pb was left with the job because of some unfortunate timing.

There is/was a new judging system in the works that allowed mods to nominate trusted users to judge, something I should follow up on.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 22:50:29 UTC Post #252457
Ant if you agree with penguinboy's judgement, do you think my entry was crap too?
Can you point out where I said that your entry was crap?

It had some nice brushwork, but it was not very enjoyable from a gameplay perspective. You can spend weeks making a map that looks good and it can still be bad if you don't focus on gameplay. A terrible-looking map can still be good if it is fun to play. Gameplay is much more important than graphics.

In your entry, there are several gameplay problems. The ship is too hard to enter, it took me about ten minutes to get in. The ship ride is much too long, it is boring and I thought that was the end of the entry for a while. Then the crashed ship is too hard to exit. If you're going to make a hard-to-get-out-of hole, don't put the player in toxic water that is slowly killing them.

When I died, the complete lack of autosave points meant that I was taken all the way back to my last Half-Life autosave, which would mean that I would have to play from the start again. Since, by then, I was frustrated and was not having any fun at all, I closed the game because it was obvious that the gameplay was not up to scratch.

Before you go on about the winning entry having no gameplay, it got first because it is not about gameplay at all. But, since your map is not only eye-candy, but gameplay too, that is included in the judgement.

Remember that the competition isn't just about making the entry look exactly like the game. It's about re-tailoring the level to suit the engine you are working with. I don't think I've played the metroid game you remade, because I've only played Prime for the Gamecube, but I'm sure that it looks similar to what it's meant to be.

I acknowledge the fact that you worked hard on getting the brushwork right, but you can't expect that none of the other entrants didn't work hard too. Deathan's entry is outstanding, I've said that before - and Tetsu0's entry shows probably the most effort of all the entries simply because of scale and creativity in improvisation. Captain terror's brush Starcraft models and use of sounds and the little extras show great skill and dedication. If there was a fourth place, your entry would have definitely got it for the good brushwork, but there are only three places for each engine.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-12 23:03:09 UTC Post #252458
if he understood that it just needed to be 1 map, (gameplay optional) he would've likely pwned everyone (or at least placed) with his brushwork skills alone.

There's always MotM ya know.
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-13 00:06:49 UTC Post #252459
Tetsu0's entry shows probably the most effort of all the entries simply because of scale and creativity in improvisation
:biggrin: Makes me feel like a good mapper. Thanks Penguinboy. I just Wish i could have ended the whole thing better than i did.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-13 00:07:24 UTC Post #252460
next compo = make a master chief statue out of brushes plz
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-13 00:10:35 UTC Post #252461
I'm down.
Or that could be the next Brushwork Mini-Compo.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-13 05:14:59 UTC Post #252466
Youve played prime? Than If so, The ship is exactly the same besides minute details such as a curved black underline in the front and a few lines. And so are the doors and mood of the map the same. wt heck, gameplay is only judged in my entry because I included some... Your retarded. Sorry the doors hard to fit in, but thats the friggin scale it is in the real game and in the half life engine, im not going to make it bigger so you can fit your a in it! If you have to prove so hard that your judgement was right than obviously it wasn't. I felt like I had some competition with the zelda and starcraft entry but not with some random castle from a game ive never heard of. And terror's entry was late and he still placed above me. I don't give a crap that I lost, I just know now what kind of bullcrap I entered in the first place.

And this wasn't the first duel engine compo.
Posted 11 years ago2008-07-13 05:20:52 UTC Post #252467
That's it, I'm getting mighty sick of this.

Closed.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
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