Vertices and Merging Created 7 years ago2012-02-29 22:37:12 UTC by camplo camplo

Created 7 years ago2012-02-29 22:37:12 UTC by camplo camplo

Posted 7 years ago2012-02-29 22:37:12 UTC Post #303843
Do I have to worry about merging brushes for the sake of optimization or am I correct that the compilers merge anything mergeable anyway.

Secondly, how or can I add or delete vertices?
Posted 7 years ago2012-02-29 22:40:57 UTC Post #303844
ok merging vertices was easy, just drag it to, and it ask.... so now how to add them.
Posted 7 years ago2012-02-29 23:59:37 UTC Post #303845
Hammer isn't as powerful as a 3D modelling program, you can't add vertices with vertex tool. The easiest way to add vertices is to use the clip tool to shave off a corner to create an additional vertex. You may need to retexture the new face though.

Also, the compiling programs do not merge brushes. You should always try to use as few brushes as possible. So if you can get away with using bigger, but fewer brushes, then it's better.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-01 00:07:30 UTC Post #303848
Wow, microbrush2 is calling my name...merge city.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-01 18:46:08 UTC Post #303864
You can create new vertices with the VM tool though. Select two yellow centre points on the same face and press ctrl+f.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-01 21:17:31 UTC Post #303869
...Someone needs to write documentation for some of Hammer's more obscure yet useful features.
JeffMOD JeffMODCall 141.12
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-02 16:41:36 UTC Post #303880
Yeah, I've been using Hammer for 8 years and I didn't know that one.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-02 17:21:27 UTC Post #303881
I know me neither, until i think Zombieloffe mentioned it like a year ago or something, and i've been using it like a banshee ever since. (well maybe not quite like a banshee, but i definitely use it ;])

Afaik, it all in the ball in the help file, just none of us bother read it? :P
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-02 20:22:16 UTC Post #303882
I can't remember exactly, but I think I found that out from the help file that came with one of the old versions of WorldCraft.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 02:10:52 UTC Post #303926
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 02:15:25 UTC Post #303927
use hlfix to "fix" this. Compilator makes it very easy to use hlfix, if you have trouble setting it up.

As an alternative, you can also try Vlcuzan's floating-point Enabler. I've never tried it but i hear good things.
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 02:39:57 UTC Post #303928
I have the flouting point thingy installed. my problem is twisting faces. I have brushes that have been rotated of grid, so certain plains that needed to be flat were impossible to make since the true flat plane lay off grid. I see that now.... So how big of a deal is it to have a vertice lay off grid?
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 03:03:49 UTC Post #303929
In that case you have to use brushwork made entirely out of tetragons or "triangles" as many people say. A quick example.
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 03:09:18 UTC Post #303930
Yeah I've been seeing that tetragons make hammer happy. thanks for the link. =)
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 03:22:20 UTC Post #303931
I still can make it break though

User posted image

The brush on the left is not a tetragons but the brush on the right that appears to not render right is. The shape on the left has an extra vertice that is parallel to the other. So yeah I am starting to get better I guess. Thanks for helping you guys. This is the only place for support it seems.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 04:09:01 UTC Post #303933
Turns out with that brush the angle got too sharp and could not be rendered so I just reshaped it so that face wasn't showing at all.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 08:15:18 UTC Post #303937
Wtf I didn't know that either, I went hotdog's route with that. Thanks TJB.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 10:11:11 UTC Post #303939
Well looks like we all learn new things about hammer. I knew Ctrl + F , as well as that weird other keybind that can scale vertices as well for years , but it was only a month ago I learnt of shift-dragging
Instant Mix Instant MixTitle commitment issues
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 10:21:20 UTC Post #303940
I knew SOMETHING made extra vertices, I just didn't know what.
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 21:05:11 UTC Post #303950
Then there's something like CTRL+> and CTRL+< (or something) to increase or reduce grid size. I never know what it is, but I know because I always end up accidentally pressing it.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 21:27:29 UTC Post #303951
You can size the grid with the [ and ] keys.
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-04 21:39:53 UTC Post #303952
Yeah that then.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-05 05:01:29 UTC Post #303973
C and D do something like that too, I think. Or maybe it's zoom, I don't know.
Jessie JessieLadytype
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-05 12:55:35 UTC Post #303980
C and D zoom. Useful for mapping on a laptop without a mouse.
Shift+drag copying = amazing
Alt+right-click for texture alignment = godlike
Ctrl+I for flipping selection vertically (in current viewport)
Ctrl+L or horizontal flipping
Everyone knows Ctrl-p right?
Ctrl-a for autosizing view ports
Shift-z for maximizing current viewport
Z locks the camera and allows for panning with the mouse.
So if your view ever goes haywire hit z and see of that solves it.
Tools>> show connections: draws gray line in 2d view connecting entities to ther targets. Just wished it worked in 3D view.

For source, pressing x in the 3d view allows for scaling and movement in the 3d window.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-05 14:07:44 UTC Post #303981
I still can make it break though
Well ya, of couse it u twist or shift the brushes insied-out. It's Pretty failsafe within reason.

95% of the time though, ou can handle complex stuff wit normal brushes, which is good becaue objects built ebtirely from pyramids is veey inefficient, and can cause other problems if u abuse them ;)
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-06 00:30:12 UTC Post #303989
Yeah I guess you can, or atleast try. Try doing it when the objects planes are off grid though... don't work out.
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-06 19:53:35 UTC Post #304012
Z locks the camera and allows for panning with the mouse.
Not just panning. Complete noclip movement controls. :P
UrbaNebula UrbaNebulaGoldSourcerer
Posted 7 years ago2012-03-06 23:01:45 UTC Post #304020
Nice! I always panicked and assumed it was only stationary camera look around.
Learning is fun!!
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
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