@madcow: you can see the dimensions of a selected brush in the lower right of the Hammer interface. Alternately, while clipping, you can press o to see the dimensions of the clipping sides and such. Maybe that's enough for you?
Either way, those brushes shouldn't give r_speed trouble. As long as the textures on them have the exact same properties, they're combined into one face (though 240 texel splitting still applies, it won't give any different result than one brush would).
Competition 17
Created 18 years ago2005-10-03 14:42:57 UTC by
The Mad Carrot
Created 18 years ago2005-10-03 14:42:57 UTC by
The Mad Carrot
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 09:41:41 UTC
Post #140480
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 10:43:02 UTC
Post #140502
Precisely. Brush splitting has much more impact in the VIS leafthread process than in the actual BSP. Polygons are much more affected by texture scaling. Remember that a surface sacaled with X=2.00 Y=2.00 has 4 times less polygons than a 1.00, 1.00 surface!!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 11:45:26 UTC
Post #140507
Kasperg: Speak english. :S
Captain P: I never noticed a unit counter, I'll have a look. Thanks!
Captain P: I never noticed a unit counter, I'll have a look. Thanks!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 12:22:36 UTC
Post #140511
Madcow what Kasperg said was quite clear
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 12:25:56 UTC
Post #140512
I need a dictionary for mapping language. 
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 15:37:42 UTC
Post #140549
I hate when people stretch there textures!
almost all the textures I use, I usually scale them down to 80 or lower, I never scale the textures above 1.00 unless absolutly nessesary!
almost all the textures I use, I usually scale them down to 80 or lower, I never scale the textures above 1.00 unless absolutly nessesary!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 15:47:18 UTC
Post #140550
In big rooms, I sometimes scale floor and ceiling textures to 1.50 , increasing performance without sacrificing looks that much.
But when it comes to terrain editing, using a scale of 2.00 is usually the right thing to do, I'll explain why:
-Like I said, we reduce the number of polygons, which is useful in big outside areas.
-The pattern of the texture becomes less obvious with bigger scaling. If we are working with terrain textures, we DONT want to see the pattern of the textures, it usually looks unnatural.
But when it comes to terrain editing, using a scale of 2.00 is usually the right thing to do, I'll explain why:
-Like I said, we reduce the number of polygons, which is useful in big outside areas.
-The pattern of the texture becomes less obvious with bigger scaling. If we are working with terrain textures, we DONT want to see the pattern of the textures, it usually looks unnatural.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 15:51:58 UTC
Post #140551
hmm interesting, i will try that on my hldm map (it has cliffs, texture is 1.00). I'll scale it to 2.00 and see how much r_speeds will drop.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 16:29:21 UTC
Post #140556
You try to think of a nice elevator with those doors and the struts are 0.80x0.40 or something like that! 
Nothing else is streched! 
Also I used the blue textures(unlike kasperg who used common lab texture that Hl1 is full of them) that has mostly only concrate textures and all the metal blue textures are used in that elevator!
Nothing else is streched! Also I used the blue textures(unlike kasperg who used common lab texture that Hl1 is full of them) that has mostly only concrate textures and all the metal blue textures are used in that elevator!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 17:17:59 UTC
Post #140564
Half-life is also full of your blue lab textures. I doubt a map will be considered better if it has green or blue textures. The important thing is how you use them. And a brush should always have more or less the same X and Y values. Stretched textures look bad, most of the time.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 17:23:33 UTC
Post #140565
I know that! But I had a few problems with the elevator for I didn't find good textures! 
Thet aren't streched but scaled very high and the struts are fixed! Blue metalic textures aren't so common and the proff is that I haven't found enough textures and I searched alot! 
Thet aren't streched but scaled very high and the struts are fixed! Blue metalic textures aren't so common and the proff is that I haven't found enough textures and I searched alot! 
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 18:31:29 UTC
Post #140566
its allowed to make a minimod. right??
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 18:35:22 UTC
Post #140567
I made a minimod the time I won! 
And it's written you must if you have costum stuff in your map! 
And it's written you must if you have costum stuff in your map!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 18:38:44 UTC
Post #140568
yah. though it gets rather alot more than 1 MB... lmao. so i guess i gotta upload it somewhere and send a ziped txt file 
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 19:12:13 UTC
Post #140571
Anybody minds if I enter? Nobody? Good, then I enter..
Gives me a good excuse to do that entitywork! Yay!
Gives me a good excuse to do that entitywork! Yay!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 19:30:04 UTC
Post #140574
great... now ill never win
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-09 21:53:14 UTC
Post #140581
welcome SEThorian, from what ive heard your a 'oldie on VERC', so im guessing your good, at least compared to some of the people here.
its good to have some compitition for the compititians besides Kasberg, Seventh-Monkey, RabidMonkey, MuzzleFlash, CaptainP, and any of the other estemed mappers here, who sadly don't enter compos alot do to time constraints, like me.
its good to have some compitition for the compititians besides Kasberg, Seventh-Monkey, RabidMonkey, MuzzleFlash, CaptainP, and any of the other estemed mappers here, who sadly don't enter compos alot do to time constraints, like me.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-10 02:07:54 UTC
Post #140592
Hi, SET. Nice to have a new 'sperienced mapper :).
<secretly gloats at success of TWHL over the official resource>
<secretly gloats at success of TWHL over the official resource>
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-10 03:48:11 UTC
Post #140605
Hey Seth, Muzz here... i mean, Atom... no, TMA!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-10 16:42:00 UTC
Post #140776
Heh, I haven't been on the Verc for a long time! (The forums, at least.) After having answered the same question for one or two years, I got tired of it and found other intarweb residences..
I specially joined the TWHL for this compo as it seemed fun and, like said, a good excuse to get some work done.. I've also seen some of the other compo's here (and especially TMA and CP their entrances) but never had the time to join. And now I finally have a good excuse, yay!
In the meanwhile, I hope I'll spend a bit of time around here each week, helping out here and there. (On the forums.) But with school being as it currently is, I cannot make any promises.
Anywhoo; everybody, happy hunting! (Do note that hunting may be replaced with mapping, at your leisure..)
I specially joined the TWHL for this compo as it seemed fun and, like said, a good excuse to get some work done..
I've also seen some of the other compo's here (and especially TMA and CP their entrances) but never had the time to join. And now I finally have a good excuse, yay!In the meanwhile, I hope I'll spend a bit of time around here each week, helping out here and there. (On the forums.) But with school being as it currently is, I cannot make any promises.
Anywhoo; everybody, happy hunting! (Do note that hunting may be replaced with mapping, at your leisure..)
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-10 18:21:37 UTC
Post #140792
I'll probebly lose this one! I'm not so exprienced, got a losy elevator and school! :
I'm not so exprienced, got a losy elevator and school! :
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-10 18:27:45 UTC
Post #140793
But remember, there's always a chance that only three people actually finish their maps, and you could always get a bronze trophy, even if yours is unfinished
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-10 19:42:23 UTC
Post #140799
Very much so true! Even if some of the contestants totally r0x0r b0x0r, there's still the issue of time.
Currently, I don't have an awful lot and still have a few audio problems to tackle. So I'd say people who don't have my similar problems, have a wee bit of an advantage over me..
Currently, I don't have an awful lot and still have a few audio problems to tackle. So I'd say people who don't have my similar problems, have a wee bit of an advantage over me..
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-11 07:55:12 UTC
Post #140825
I'm not so exprienced but I still know alot! 
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-11 08:35:59 UTC
Post #140830
i'm lazy :>
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 06:27:34 UTC
Post #141589
Oh bugger that voice acting. It's good quality, but without a sound artist I'm not getting anywhere. Would there happen to be any experienced people on TWHL with experience in sound editing? It all goes well for me until I perform hiss reduction. Gets rid of the hiss, but also creates artifacts and transforms the sound. (Depending on the FFT size.)
Edit: Here's the precise step-plan of what I'm doing:
Step 1: Increasing / decreasing the volume (depending on the situation).
Step 2: Resample to 22050Hz.
Step 2,5: Only applies in certain cases; I mess around with the bandpass to get an effect as if the voice acting is spoken through an intercom.
Step 3: Save as 8 bit mono , unsigned.
Step 4: Hiss reduction (I copy a part where no text is spoken and there's just hiss, and base the hiss reduction on that).
Edit: Here's the precise step-plan of what I'm doing:
Step 1: Increasing / decreasing the volume (depending on the situation).
Step 2: Resample to 22050Hz.
Step 2,5: Only applies in certain cases; I mess around with the bandpass to get an effect as if the voice acting is spoken through an intercom.
Step 3: Save as 8 bit mono , unsigned.
Step 4: Hiss reduction (I copy a part where no text is spoken and there's just hiss, and base the hiss reduction on that).
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 06:38:40 UTC
Post #141591
I edited a sound with sound recorder and made the gman say, "Wisly done I will see you up ahead..."
Also I made a long mumbling noise!
Also I made a long mumbling noise!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 06:48:56 UTC
Post #141595
I'll just add right now; I'm using Goldwave..
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 06:49:05 UTC
Post #141596
How many sounds do you need doing, SETh? I might be able to do some for you. Well, try, anyway :).
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 06:50:33 UTC
Post #141597
There are 10 wav files, each requiring the 4 steps. (The majority of them also require step 2,5.)
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 08:59:42 UTC
Post #141611
Well, I'll have a stab at it if you want, but I'm no professional. I just have fancy tools :).
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 09:02:43 UTC
Post #141616
Well I could send one or two files your way for testing purposes if you'd like to give it a shot? If it's succesful, I could always throw eight more your way..
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 09:24:35 UTC
Post #141622
Sounds good. E-mail me 'em; the addy's in my profile.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 09:27:15 UTC
Post #141623
Hey seth, nice to see you around here!
Why dont you finish starlabs first
Why dont you finish starlabs first
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 10:49:18 UTC
Post #141640
Pepper, you especially should know I'm entering with the Starlabs Test Chamber! 
(Well, that is if school won't get in between.. ;)) I mentioned it on CPCP's forums!
And I'll mail you the sound files as soon as possible! Thanks in advance!
(Well, that is if school won't get in between.. ;)) I mentioned it on CPCP's forums!And I'll mail you the sound files as soon as possible! Thanks in advance!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-15 13:12:30 UTC
Post #141683
Aw, should have none, hereby i stand corrected.
Unfortunately i wont enter, havent even finishd my other entry, i just lack all time to combine it with modeling.
Unfortunately i wont enter, havent even finishd my other entry, i just lack all time to combine it with modeling.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-17 15:02:21 UTC
Post #142045
Don't know if i enter too. School is taking most of my time. Last year.. But there will be holidays after few weeks. Hope compo won't finish till then :>
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-17 15:45:25 UTC
Post #142052
I don't know if I'll enter this one,the idea is boring. :
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-17 16:20:05 UTC
Post #142057
this is a shot to my heart here. I might not finish both Hostage Situation and this compo by the end of October. sucks for me. If I could have finished my idea it would have had a huge chance at winning
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-23 19:39:04 UTC
Post #143263
12 days left... I think the map is going to end up being more than 1 MB, so my everlasting problem of finding a place to host the file will surface once again
Taking a look at how this year at university is going on so far, this might be my last compo entry (or any type of map) for a long while. I still need to decide the theme for the next source compo. Please use that thread for suggestions.
Taking a look at how this year at university is going on so far, this might be my last compo entry (or any type of map) for a long while. I still need to decide the theme for the next source compo. Please use that thread for suggestions.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 04:14:54 UTC
Post #143277
I can host it. I can host anything which people are struggling to find places for.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 04:17:48 UTC
Post #143278
I can host it for you too.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 07:33:47 UTC
Post #143305
I also could host it, so no-body should have a problem!
Is there like an upper file size limit? Because to get the right feel for mine, I've got a rather long introduction...
Think I'm at about 25mb (11mb when zipped) and I haven't even finished with custom sounds and stuff
Is there like an upper file size limit? Because to get the right feel for mine, I've got a rather long introduction...
Think I'm at about 25mb (11mb when zipped) and I haven't even finished with custom sounds and stuff
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 08:03:49 UTC
Post #143308
25mbs? Did you include rewolf.wad(gunman's wad) for 25 mb is a size of a mod. :
I don't know if I'll join for school is taking alot of my time. I think I'll have tommorow for my self! My idea is so cool. I have a problem with my speaker entity, it says something about that c0a0_start sentence group is bad.
I don't know if I'll join for school is taking alot of my time. I think I'll have tommorow for my self! My idea is so cool. I have a problem with my speaker entity, it says something about that c0a0_start sentence group is bad.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 08:45:53 UTC
Post #143318
Nah, didn't include the wad's, well... erm I use -wadinclude because I think that just picks out only the textures you've actually used.
I might not finish it for the compo too much custom stuff me thinks!
I might not finish it for the compo
too much custom stuff me thinks!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 08:48:50 UTC
Post #143319
Try not to use to much custom content. 25/11 MB for just a single test chamber map is little over the top.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 09:23:49 UTC
Post #143329
If I don't have the content, I don't have a story and if I don't have a story then all I do have is a useless chamber with stuff happening for no apparent reason... :
In todays world of fast computers and fast internet, surely 11-25mb isn't going to be a problem. ?!
In todays world of fast computers and fast internet, surely 11-25mb isn't going to be a problem. ?!
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 09:48:37 UTC
Post #143333
11MB seems alright to me, if a little above-average. Don't let it get much bigger, though.
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-24 13:38:13 UTC
Post #143376
And people, please stop saying that your idea is the best, so cool or whatever but you won't have time to finish it. EVERYONE has something else to do in life other than mapping, and you're not the only one with problems.
As a matter of fact, part of being a good mapper or contestant is having the ability to find time to work on your idea, even if it seems impossible.
This isn't about "who's the super l337 mapper with the most OMG best idea!!". It's about reading the theme, thinking up a map, and getting it done.
(sorry if I sound angry, I just came home from class after 5 hours. The bad thing is that only 40 mins of those 5 hours have been class. The rest has been wasted in transportation, waiting for the teacher to arrive, etc)
As a matter of fact, part of being a good mapper or contestant is having the ability to find time to work on your idea, even if it seems impossible.
This isn't about "who's the super l337 mapper with the most OMG best idea!!". It's about reading the theme, thinking up a map, and getting it done.
(sorry if I sound angry, I just came home from class after 5 hours. The bad thing is that only 40 mins of those 5 hours have been class. The rest has been wasted in transportation, waiting for the teacher to arrive, etc)
Posted 18 years ago2005-10-28 09:18:23 UTC
Post #144142
Sad news, for me anyway, is that I won't be able to enter this compo afterall. I've had a few technical setbacks as well as time on my back. With midterms coming up, I won't be having the time to implement all the entities (assuming for a second I manage to solve those technical problems) so there shall be no entry from my side. (Which I find to be a great pity.)
Regardless; good luck to those who are still in the race; may the best man win!
Regardless; good luck to those who are still in the race; may the best man win!
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