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Too bad I didn't look at this map before. It's a real sweet-looking map man! Quite small but it shows the effort and time you've put in it. Visually very appealing, it's a shame it's so small! I did miss some ambience sound, though. But that doesn't break the map, it's just awesome!

Possibly he just deleted the map from the vault and submitted again.

Oh yeah! LOL Silly me

I can't get this thing to work so what if I just make some screenshots of the problem?

Invalid zip file.

What I meant, was, give us the wad files we don't have, or retexture the map with textures we do have (just so we can check the map for problems).

The texture itself isn't so bad-looking. More the fact that you used only one texture for all the spaceships. A little bit of variation would be welcome.

It's Xen? As I said before, it doesn't convince me. It has a very weak atmosphere. If a player can't see it's Xen after 10 minutes, the level has a bad sense of place.

Oh, and the wind sound was very, very annoying...

and its not space, its xen.

i really shouldve put this in the unfinished maps, since it needed a lot of updating. all feedback taken into account. about the texture: it was originally a metal texture from the hl wad, but i had pts make me a new one. a little more info on how to improve the texture would b welcoming.

oh well thx for ur help captain....did it atleast look good

A terrain generator might do a better job, but it will be still very complex. I think this canyon is still out of reach with your level of technical knowledge. It's possible but requires a high level of experience to do it right. Half-Life isn't very good in outdoor area's so you have to know what you can and what you can't do.

Creating blocky rocks might be easier to start with. So, just like walls, instead of very steep triangles. Still, I recommend you to find out how VIS works. When you know what specifications and limitations the compile programs have, it's easier to adjust your maps and avoid errors.

do u think if i tryed using one of those terrain generators it would turn out better and if i scaled it down alot? or is making something like a canyon a lost cause.

What about the trigger_monsterjump? That should do the trick.

Here is the map .rmf + as_tundra.wad I gave it another name to just in case that it isn't that bad

Because putting up a mapversion with textures you all have isn't possible (because I don't have them for some reason), I put the map completly with as_tundra.wad I think allmost everyone has that one no?

My opinion:

Bad designed spaceships. Bad texture usage. R_speeds are way too high for such an undetailed environment, so I'd say it's overall bad designed. No challenge in the fights too (Gauss versus grunts...).

The whole map didn't convince me. The only way I saw it was in space was the sky, and somewhat the shape of the spaceships. It's a nice idea IMO, but worked out very meagre.

I fully agree, not much more I can say

You want us to help you so it's up to you to make it easy for us. Either make another version of the map with textures we all have (just for the sake of this problem map of-course) or wadinclude the used textures in your map.

I STRONGLY advise you to stop any work on this map and totally redesign it.

HLVIS has a really bad time on your map. Learn how VIS works before attempting such outdoor or natural area's. The way you made your terrain is really troublesome for HLVIS. It can be done in this way but with caution and a full understanding of what you're actually doing.

Besides, you use the skybox method. Bad. Never do that. Don't put a skybox around your level, only put a skybush there where you want the sky to be visible. So, only leave the top brush of your skybox, delete the other sides of the skybox. It causes major area's around your map to also be compiled. A waste of resources (compile time here).

You also used vertex manipulation, right? Although all vertexes seem to be on grid points, it complicates the map even more. Making it even harder for HLVIS.

R_speeds. There are about 5000 faces in the map, and seen from the top-view, there's very little VIS-blocking. The map will probably have skyhigh wpoly-amounts. The level is bad designed.

Leaks? Very, very hard to find in such a complex environment. You'd better redesign the map and start from scratch again. Search for tutorials on making rocks, and find out how VIS works (it divides the space in your map into 'leafs', triangular blocks. The player always is in such a leaf. HL then determines wich other leafs can be seen by that leaf. The faces in those visible leafs are then drawn. This method causes more faces to be rendered than the player can actually see, faces just around corners for example are often rendered while the player can't see them. But it's still quite a good method. Anyway, complex maps like yours, featuring a lot of angled faces, make HLVIS work very hard, resulting in a lot of leafs, and sometimes also problems like 'leaf saw into leaf.)

What is that thing in the screen shot? That better not be the ship. Ill download it tonight and give it a run and rate it tomorrow.

Oh and if you have no lights outside the ships, put little lights ON the main hull so the player can see.

Well this map could be great if you changed some things.
1. Space has no light. It should be pitch black outside the ships.
2. How is gordon breathing outside the ships?
3. The ships textures are really bad. Add some diversity or change them altogether.
4. The ships are too unrealistic. Add some engine exaust pipes or something. Make it look like the thing could actually fly.
Then you've got a good little mod.

Someone needs to rate this

How did you delete a comment? Your not a forum moderator. But anyway, yeah, sorry about the long mmmm or whatever it was. I thought it would be separated instead of to keep going.

Try taking the "target when bomb explodes" things off.

I'm just gonna tell the other wad files because I simply can't get them to upload cs_bikinigirl.wad, sputnik.wad and tdk_wad_part2.wad Just google them or something

3 files left

4 files to go. Can't this go on an easier way?

2nd attempt

ok, so they aren't :s

craash420, it's not the the map sides that you can't see, it's just some small sides of my boxes that aren't visible even when you are far away from it or close. (wad files are attached)

craash420, it's not the the map sides that you can't see, it's just some small sides of my boxes that aren't visible even when you are far away from it or close. (wad files are attached)

And the lighting too, seeing from the screenshot...

I don't play CS or have the custom wad, but it sounds like you've made too large of an open area. Do the walls slowly reappear if you walk toawrd them? If so you need to smallify your map.

texturing looks kinda cruddy

Or attach the wad file

Can monsters jump? I don't theres an animation for them to jump, therefore they can't jump. Sorry

Wadinclude de_smyrna into your map. It's not a standard .wad that came with CS, so not everyone has it.

You might want to wadinclude ship_tex.wad into the map...

Looks nice, but well, layout is pretty simple... OK, it's a fy-map, but still...

Strange lighting bytheway. The overhead beams don't have parallel shadows, wich is impossible with only the sun as a light-source.

This map lacks something, maybe its the poor use of brushes and textures. Try to fix it up or redo it a bit, espiecially the un-aligned textures, I dont think your giving it your best efforts here. 2 stars.

lets make it english people!

kaip masinas daryt as ir nzn ir man masinos su cs nesiderina, nebent seip tik. o texturu as nekuriu :), as tik susikuriu savo wad, kuri paskui darau -wadinclude. i ta wad susikeliu texturas kuriu man reikia su wally programele. su ja galima siek tiek ir koreguoti textura, bei paimti is kt. wad'u (jai matei mano de_ramses ten texturos is neto)

gal paaiskint sugebetum ?

emm... viena toki zinau, bet jis dar visiskas naujokas... net duru nemoka idet (o as niekaip nesuvokiu kaip texturas sawo sukurt ir kaip masinas daryt)

ghmmm... iceworldo kopija su dust texturomis...galetum ir labiau pasistengti :). o beje gal pazysti dar kokiu mapperiu is lietuvos? butu ydomu paziuret kitu darbus ar keliese daryt koki projekta

Download my elevator example map.

Sorry to all who posted their comments to this map, but Worldcraft Dude ruined this page by stretching it so it was unreadable. I had to delete it and create again. I would really appreciate if Worldcraft Dude would be so kind to not post any comments to my maps!!! 4EVER!!!!!

I hate fy_ maps too, but I do what CS community likes