talking about guns in america, watch bowling for columbine (or whatever its spelled)
"I'd like to open a bank account please"
sure, which one?"
"uhh...the one where you get a free gun"
ROFL.
Created 18 years ago2006-04-08 11:58:23 UTC by satchmo
But you'd rather keep generalizing, maintaining the status quo, right?Yeah... that's exactly what I'm doing by... arguing against the status quo.
If your not a fucking terrorist, you have nothing to fear from the Patriot Act. Profiling? Hell yes I'm all for profiling.'Cept if you're a middle eastern shop owner. Stamp them for TERRORIST!!1
Your gun rights is the cause of the extreme high amount of armed crime in the states.Simply not ture.
undergo extensive surveilance and even detain people based on loose suspicions of terrorism?They could always do that in the name of national security, The Patriot act just makes it easier. If the rights of Middle-Easterners are infringed in the process, it's regrettable, but we have to protect ourselves. When 19-year-old white girls start suicide bombing, then I guess we'll have to pay closer attention to them as well.
The fact that you're allowed firearms for no good reason, Rowley. Utterly pathetic.Entirely your opinion even if it's totally wrong. From Aussies I've talked to, you guys have even stricter gun control than the Brits. I suppose I'd try to make the same claim if my government didn't allow me to own a gun.
What really needs to change in America are the penalties/enforcement for gun-related crimes. Make them harsh enough, and the small percentage of criminals who use guns to commit crimes will decrease still.
I would include "accidents" in this legislation for morons like Dick Cheney, and those who allow their children access to their guns--Columbine. This would also make people more responsible and serious about gun safety.
Punish the offenders, not the 99.9999999% of people that are responisble and abide the law with their firearms. Hold those accountable, accountable.
They could always do that in the name of national security, The Patriot act just makes it easier. If the rights of Middle-Easterners are infringed in the process, it's regrettableOh, I'm sure the victims are greatly heartened by your pity.
Meant your status quo. It seems hip nowadays to be Libby and left.Er, I thought you were the one claiming to be all for freedom of the individual?
You're still ignoring all my previous counterpoints to your previous accusations, and instead leaving a half-sentence bullshit reply...see "Cop Out".I just can't be bothered and don't have time to read all the comments and match them up with responses. It's a pretty big thread with a hell of a lot of content.
The right to own and bear arms is preeminent to our culture.Weren't you just the one complaining about supporting the status quo, too?
I just can't be bothered and don't have time to read all the comments and match them up with responses. It's a pretty big thread with a hell of a lot of content.You don't have time to back up your accusations, but you have time to make them. Cop out and very convenient.
DOWN WITH PROGRESS, eh?Your claim, that an elightend society needs not guns, not mine.
Oh, I'm sure the victims are greatly heartened by your pity.No system is perfect. We'll do what we have to, and not be ashamed by it.
Your kinda reaching now Ant, really, some more substantive points might be in order...I think the fact that you've supplied us with absolutely none says something.
you need an automatic rifle to take down todays breeds of super-deerAhaha
America really isnt in decline. We do have dept, but so does every other country. France and Germany are still in dept to us from WW1! Theres no point bringing up these stupid little things from the past.Dept, your talking about a dept here? Do you have any fucking cleu what happend before and after both wars? I highly doubt it. Otherwise you would have know that the incredible raping of germany after WWI caused people to believe in people like Hitler.
298,444,215Um not in 2000, ass. Insert apology <here>
If your not a fucking terrorist, you have nothing to fear from the Patriot Act.Not true. Lots of completly peaceful people were taken by the US to Guantanimo Bay (spelling), imprisoned and tortured for three years. THREE YEARS OF TORTURE, Juse because they had a certain faith. It seems to me America is breeding a culture of paranoia, where you think everyone is out to get you, that isnt so. Everyone might dislike you, even hat you, but that doesnt mean they are going to strap C4 around their chests and run at you screaming praise to some god.
imprisoned and tortured for three years.Isolated incidents of torture, not the norm.
Um not in 2000, ass. Insert apology <here>You're saying the US population increased by 98 million in 6 years?
You're saying the US population increased by 98 million in 6 years?<actually laughs out loud>
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You're saying the US population increased by 98 million in 6 years?For some reason I was under the impression it was around the 230's around that time, but I don't have any numbers currently to compare. Howver, it wasn't 298 million in 2000.
No. I would guess your percentages would rise directly with the size of your country. Too many dynamics to accurately predict, but that would be my guess.Nonsense. So people get more... violent if there are more people living in the country?
Isolated incidents of torture, not the norm.Your right, its not the norm, its only in America. And its not just a few guys who got tortured, ALL OF THEM DID. What do you think Guantanimo bay is? A holdiay camp where they sit around a fire roasting marsh mellows and singing Cum-bi-ah all night? Open your eyes.
It's not that simple Zombie. My claim is that we're so much bigger, you can't compare them per 1000 people. The net population is a factor you're conveniently avoiding.Er... do you not understand "per 1000 people"?
Not true. Lots of completly peaceful people were taken by the US to Guantanimo Bay (spelling), imprisoned and tortured for three years. THREE YEARS OF TORTURE, Juse because they had a certain faith.That's what I was trying to say Americans seem to have trouble acknowledging this as pure fascism.
Gun control: Freedom must be absolute. No exceptions... Some laws though are there to protect. The patriot act does inhibit certain freedoms, but to protect the good.Biggest contradiction EVER. What the hell do you think gun restrictions are there for? Of course they're there to protect the society itself! It's bloody proven, higher gun restrictions -> Less crime! The patriot act hardly protects the citizens of the US as much as it offers the government control over it's people.
Torture: We never torture, EVER!Physical torture isn't the only torture. Mental torture can be as painful to endure, especially if you're put through it for years, without even being accused of something. There have been cases where the US military have physically tortured prisoners... Try Googling it.
The fact is we are the greatest country, strongest, and most advanced. Were almost perfect in every way. Of course your anger for us is understandable. You wish you were us. Too bad. You can dream though................Ohmigosh the arrogance! Everyone's written like ten times in this thread that we don't want to live in america - I repeat: America offers me nothing.
LOL, btw does any of your countries get immigrants? I mean is America so great that we actually have thousands sneaking in to get some of our greatness? Never heard of people flocking to Britain...........Sweden accepts several thousands immigrants per year, alot more than our Scandinavian neighbours.
Also, never heard of people flocking to Britain? There're thousands of immigrants emigrating to britain every year - in fact this is the case with all industrial countries - america isn't uniqe with this in any way.Indeed. In 2004, 140 000 people emigrated to Britain.