Advanced Brushwork Mini-Compos

RotatorSplint

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 15:03:46 UTC Post #191482

muzzle, thats AWESOME!

Rules... hmm... well, do you think that we should name a structure to be built? Or a specific block count (which in my mind is a bad idea)?

Parhaps we should send out a base map with a large river through it and say "build the most advanced bridge over this river" or somthing like that. That would be cool

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RotatorSplint

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 15:04:46 UTC Post #191483

Actually, we need these:

You know, those little translucent lego bricks. They can be the lightsource in lego levels. I can make them. It'll only take time.

The Mad Carrot

RotatorSplint

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 15:09:20 UTC Post #191486

great idea muzz, we could use those

when I was younger, I loved to make little fortresses out of legos. perhaps we could build those?

RotatorSplint

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 15:19:02 UTC Post #191487

People, if you've allready downloaded the wad, please redownload when i tell you to, i am now updating the wad with translucent light emitting lego bricks.

Also, ill provide a couple of .rad file strings.

The Mad Carrot

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 15:22:24 UTC Post #191488

Sweet

Rules as of now(please feel free to edit):

1.Make something out of legos, max size 800 cubic units. You must use these brush sizes for the lego blocks:

(Here, insert some modular brush sizes, but I have no Idea what they would be right now.

2.You can ONLY use the textlight texures provided to light your map. Here are the colors/brigtness values for them:

Blue: 0 0 255 500
yellow: 255 255 0 500
Magenta: 255 0 255 500
Green: 0 255 0 500

3. Time limit: 3 days.

Attachment should include:

-the preset lego block sizes
-wadfiel
-Radfile for the textlight values.

rowleybob

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 15:41:01 UTC Post #191497

Dear me, i got a lot to do on those textures.

The Mad Carrot

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 15:45:30 UTC Post #191498

Muzz, just make the subsequent colors/textures. They don't have to match those little pieces imo.

Do you have an idea what size(s) to make the lego pieces?

rowleybob

Tosse

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 15:58:58 UTC Post #191504

I like the toilet idea on the first page.

Tosse

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 16:04:05 UTC Post #191505

I'm thinking of changing #4 to something simple like that, and bumping the lego comp to #5, unless we can get some nice predefined rules for it very soon.

Muzz: perhaps if we just have to build one 2x2 or 2x6 block, and as long as they use the same texture scale, all the entries will be the same size.

rowleybob

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 16:13:06 UTC Post #191506

Hmmm... Don't know. I don't feel like resizing every single texture in the wad. I don't believe it is such good idea to limit build area.

The wad is updated and can now be downloaded. Texturing starting with a ~ are light emitting textures. Here are the rad file entries for those:

~blue1 42 56 162 4000
~blue2 42 45 162 4000
~darkred1 109 0 0 4000
~darkred2 109 0 0 4000
~dkblue1 0 0 99 4000
~dkblue2 0 0 99 4000
~dkgreen1 0 32 0 4000
~dkgreen2 0 32 0 4000
~dkpurp1 40 0 40 4000
~dkpurp2 40 0 40 4000
~green1 83 216 51 4000
~green2 82 216 51 4000
~grey1 94 102 110 4000
~grey2 94 102 110 4000
~orange1 182 78 22 4000
~orange2 182 78 22 4000
~purple1 100 62 142 4000
~purple2 100 62 142 4000
~red1 172 32 32 4000
~red2 172 32 32 4000
~white1 183 191 199 4000
~white2 183 191 199 4000
~yellow1 204 204 0 4000
~yellow2 204 204 0 4000

The Mad Carrot

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 16:15:54 UTC Post #191507

Then maybe include a base with the piece sizes you have to use?

I'm just trying to figure how to keep the scale uniform through the entries.

I don't believe it is such good idea to limit build area.

If not a build limit size, then there has to be another restriction of some sort, like build a pirate ship out of lego blocks or something.

If we can't agree on exact rules for this in the next half hour or so, no big deal, we can bump it to mini#5, and go ahead with the "map a toilet" for mini#4. Then we'll have 3 days to iron out the details.

rowleybob

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 16:27:50 UTC Post #191508

Well, the normal textures have dimensions of 32, 48 and 64 pixels. Resizing those would be a pain.

The Mad Carrot

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 16:47:40 UTC Post #191514

Well we have the next couple of days to work it out. I really don't care how we achieve uniformity, as long as we achieve it.

I think if we worked with one size for the blocks, that would be enough, like with real legos. The mapper could use the traditional thin size piece, or the fat pieces, at varying lengths of course. A base map showing the pieces would probably be the best way imo.

This is a great compo idea, we just started developing it too late. So, I'm bumping this to #5 and we'll do the map a toilet for #4--nice and simple.

Official Brief up in a couple minutes. I'll judge unless somebody else--Tosse?--wants to.

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:07:21 UTC Post #191517

MiniCompo #4 - Build a Toilet Official Brief

I'll be judging this one. Any questions in here, but it's fairly simple.

-More detail, the better.
-Custom textures are allowed
-3 days

You can make the rest of the map fancy, but the toilet is what will be judged.

rowleybob

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:08:17 UTC Post #191519

Haha. That compo is so freakin boring compared to the Lego compo.

The Mad Carrot

RotatorSplint

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:13:38 UTC Post #191521

Why dont we just keep the same size for the lego as for the textures? No resizing, plus the player can explore through it so much more easily. Too small and then you con only look at the outside...

RotatorSplint

srry

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:13:40 UTC Post #191522

By now, I'm starting to assume that the second Minicompo is over, with me being the only one who entered. Is this so? I was hoping I would have some competition here...

srry

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:14:33 UTC Post #191524

Muzz: You're so right, it's also much simpler to define

Hopefully we can hammer out the official details for the lego compo within the next day or so. I'll take a look at the textues and whatnot tomorrow.

Again, I think a base map with the different style of pieces would be the easiest way to "uniformize" the compo, but it's you baby

--and Gargys too, but he kinda fell off the earth on this

If you need a hand doing whatever, just let me know.

Srry: You were the only entrant. So by default, you win! Even though there were no other entries, I think yours would have beat just about everyone else's

rowleybob

srry

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:18:26 UTC Post #191526

Yay, At least I can copy that sentance into my bio!

srry

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:20:24 UTC Post #191527

We could make a minicompo plaques--1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Special Mention perhaps--that winners could put in there bio.

Maybe somebody with better PS skills than me could create them?

rowleybob

srry

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:21:40 UTC Post #191528

Good idea, then I wouldn't have to resort to that lame quote.

srry

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:24:40 UTC Post #191530

Somebody PM somebody with PS skills!!

rowleybob

RotatorSplint

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:29:03 UTC Post #191532

I have no PS skillz but i do have a good idea for a MiniCompo trophy:
Have it look like a standard compo trophy, but have a magnifying glass over it, showing that it is mini

That would be awesome!

RotatorSplint

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:30:59 UTC Post #191533

Rimrook.

The Mad Carrot

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:31:39 UTC Post #191534

LOL yes! Give us a quick/crude example pic of what you mean!

rowleybob

RotatorSplint

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:34:44 UTC Post #191535

ok, ill draw it in paint or somthing

EDIT:
Here it is:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/RotatorSplint/mini_compo_pic.jpg

I'm left handed, just so you know

RotatorSplint

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 17:44:08 UTC Post #191537

PMing Lord Rimrook... ^_^ <PM sent :)>

In.

rowleybob

RotatorSplint

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 18:00:42 UTC Post #191538

That looks great rowlybob! I especially like the level of detail put into the suit and face

RotatorSplint

Tosse

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-24 20:01:28 UTC Post #191573

I'll build the best toilet ever!!!!!

Tosse

M_gargantua

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 00:02:48 UTC Post #191589

IM NOT OFF THE EARTH!!!!!!

/me huffs

and when I said build a lego thing, I mean just grab some colored textures, and whip out a blocked object of mamoth detail, then apply flat colors to it and add the little nubs in brush work.

no prefab's required, and maybe we can get rim to make us some quicky models of those really odd lego pieces that would be impossible with brush's

M_gargantua

Rimrook

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 01:20:11 UTC Post #191590

wow. i have a lot of mention around here all-of-a-sudden...

I did make a trophy. I sent it via pm back to Rowley. I hope its good enough.

I'd post a pic of it, but i don't know if there are any rules about showcasing the trophy.

RimrookSince 2003

Tosse

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 08:40:12 UTC Post #191612

Are we still making toilets?

Tosse

Rimrook

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 11:18:51 UTC Post #191628

Well anyway...

Win and be awarded this lovely prize!!!

RimrookSince 2003

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 11:22:53 UTC Post #191629

Dude, that modelled in Max, isn't it?

How about silver and bronze prizes?

The Mad Carrot

Rimrook

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 11:27:27 UTC Post #191631

i didn't know if they were necessary at the time. It was late last night when this was done. I'll be doing the rest tonight.

But is it good enough? Its not as large or glamorous as the official twhl trophies.

RimrookSince 2003

Elon Yariv

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 12:13:27 UTC Post #191632

In

Elon Yariv

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 12:34:43 UTC Post #191634

Looks fine to me, Rim.

Elon: explain.

The Mad Carrot

Tosse

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 15:00:11 UTC Post #191639

I have to know if i should keep toileting, are we still builing toilets?

Tosse

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 17:21:52 UTC Post #191658

Compo 3 has ended, with only 2 entries--one from srry and one from me. Alexb911 should have the results up tonight, though it's not a huge deal imo considering the low turn out.

Dauby and Rim: I know you two were thinging of joining this one, and or had unfinished maps. In the future--and this goes to everyone--, please consider submitting you entry unfinished!

Rimrook: Superb! Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner! I guess we just need a silver and bronze one to make them complete. We should also use a standard font/font size for the compo titile, so they're all uniform. Suggestions on a good font/font size we could use?

Muzz: I'm guessing Elon has a toilet in that map, and that is his submission.

Tosse: Yup, so build those toilets, bitches

Muzz/Gargy: For compo 5, all I ask for is that the rules are simple and unambiguous. I'm taking a look at the textues right now to see what suggestions for this I may have.

rowleybob

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 17:32:52 UTC Post #191661

Muzz/Gargy: For compo 5, all I ask for is that the rules are simple and unambiguous. I'm taking a look at the textues right now to see what suggestions for this I may have.

Gee... I would'nt know. Well what about this:

Redesign a very small part from an original HL map, like a specific room, hallway or lab. The only difference is that you use Lego texture, and no default HL textures.

The Mad Carrot

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 17:37:34 UTC Post #191662

That's perfect. All that's really left is to pick a spot for contestants to "rebuild", or let them rebuild whatever they want, with a size restriction of some sort, maybe 800 cubic units or something.

I'm looking at the wadfile... expect suggestions/commetns soon

rowleybob

The Mad Carrot

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 17:42:05 UTC Post #191663

Oh please, no size restrictions! What if the area you want to remake is larger than that.

Some other rules i prefer:

Make use of the color bricks. Most points are given to the mapper who has made the most colorfull map.

The Mad Carrot

Tosse

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 17:43:25 UTC Post #191664

How long do i have?!

I wanna build the most amazing toilet(s) HL1 has ever seen! and i do need some time, i was working today, and im at work tomorrow so i don't have much time

Tosse

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 18:03:08 UTC Post #191666

Tosse: There is a countdown timer on the Build a Toilet Brief page

Muzz: I just loaded up the textures and ran in game... and they look really good

The only textue I can think of that's missing is the "bottom" part of the lego, but that's no huge deal.

I scaled the walls the same as the texture dimensions, and the "interlocking" parts all at .64 x .64 and at .16 x.16, and either way they looked good. Is everything supposed to be scaled down to 16 x 16? (maybe include the correct texture scales for douches like me who are unsure

As far as compo rules, I'm leaving them completely up to you and Gargy. Post them in here or PM them, and I'll throw up the official brief page the day compo 4 is ending.

edit: Couldn't resist

rowleybob

VOX

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 18:47:46 UTC Post #191669

lol

edit: gotta love going to the page to find out you have 1 hour to start and finish a compettion toilet. yay!

VOX

rowleybob

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 18:52:10 UTC Post #191670

I give up

If 3 days--2.5 left--days is not enought time to build a toilet, then I don't know what to tell you! ^_^

rowleybob

VOX

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 20:52:58 UTC Post #191674

Hahaha yeah I know, but I have like 2 hours per day to map after work so...anything I make has to go very slowly

VOX

M_gargantua

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 21:19:18 UTC Post #191675

again, my idea for a build a lego thing was more like make something like that photo out of brush's

M_gargantua

Elon Yariv

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 23:17:43 UTC Post #191677

Thats right rowleybob, and I can't be bothered with making a new map.

Elon Yariv

Rimrook

Posted 18 years ago2006-07-25 23:50:52 UTC Post #191680

The trophies!

Who will be the lucky winners?

RimrookSince 2003

Advanced Brushwork Mini-Compos Created 18 years ago2006-07-06 16:53:13 UTC by rowleybob