Its too bad you cant play it m_garg, I've already got some 200 hours out of the game doing the many many different quest lines for each faction. Dark Brotherhood being the best obviously
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RPGs arent for everyone, Its so different to a classic FPS like hl/hl2, you can just go and explore for hours. Its also a pretty laid back game, the focus is on the realistic simulation of a fantasy world rather than just combat.
Its too bad you cant play it m_garg, I've already got some 200 hours out of the game doing the many many different quest lines for each faction. Dark Brotherhood being the best obviously
Its too bad you cant play it m_garg, I've already got some 200 hours out of the game doing the many many different quest lines for each faction. Dark Brotherhood being the best obviously
plus I didnt know ANYTHING about deus ex before playing it, I didnt even realise it was supposed to be a conspiracy! I wish it were possible to avoid all the hype of todays games like that, I tried my best with Oblivion but I got so much advertising, previews, etc thrown at me I couldnt. HL2 goes one step further on the hype-o-meter, especially given the nonsense release date and 'out of the blue' announcment of its existence.
Under that logic its a pretty weak story, you dont read a good book and say 'that was a good story because I thought up half of it myself'
I suppose HL2 is the best overall FPS ever, discounting deus ex because thats an RPG really. I wouldn't say its the best game though.
I suppose HL2 is the best overall FPS ever, discounting deus ex because thats an RPG really. I wouldn't say its the best game though.
Indeed, there are few FPSes with good storylines, not suprising given the genre is essentially action first - shooting and killing lots of things in the first person. In terms of pure FPS HL2 is certainly around the top, but thats comparing it to the likes of Doom/Painkiller/CoD/the thousand games based on the quake engines. If you bring Deus Ex into this, which is heavily RPG as well as FPS, then it can't hold a candle to it.
Ive been pretty dissapointed with the FPS genre in recent times, theres too much emphasis on flashy graphics over substance, the only FPS thats left any kind of lasting impression on me post deus ex was its sequel.
I dont know why I enjoyed Quake 4 so much though, gory fun but not a lot else!
Ive been pretty dissapointed with the FPS genre in recent times, theres too much emphasis on flashy graphics over substance, the only FPS thats left any kind of lasting impression on me post deus ex was its sequel.
I dont know why I enjoyed Quake 4 so much though, gory fun but not a lot else!
if it had a good story, Valve were pretty crap at telling it. If you haven't played an adventure game you dont know what storytelling through the media of games can be.
I dont think my opinion would change much, i'm not that interested in playing it at all really.
Someone's gotta make a game with 2 hours of gameplay just to show those resident evil goons up
When Ive managed to spend over 200 hours with 2 different characters in a single game, its hard not to find 4 hours a fucking joke of a game, whether its 4 hours of orgasmic pleasure or 4 hours of running around a lot.
When I buy a game I expect for it to keep me entertained for at least a couple of evenings, else I feel completely cheated. Yes my judgment is a little clouded because Ive not been a big fan of Valve for years, but I'm speaking more about episodic content in general.
Anyway, this is going nowhere, obviously this game is the one expection of all games ever ever ever, so blah.
When I buy a game I expect for it to keep me entertained for at least a couple of evenings, else I feel completely cheated. Yes my judgment is a little clouded because Ive not been a big fan of Valve for years, but I'm speaking more about episodic content in general.
Anyway, this is going nowhere, obviously this game is the one expection of all games ever ever ever, so blah.
YEAH STFU, if you cant do it better yourself then you aren't allowed to criticise it. Valve had so much on their hands with selling steam to every developer going they didn't have TIME to make more than 4 hours of gameplay!
zombieloffe, you have made an enemy today
at least its better than licking donkey balls
If the box was green i'd criticise that too, which it isnt, why isn't it green, red is a stupid colour.
I never said hl2 was a bad game, I quite enjoyed it and it has some quite amazing features (very good disability support), its definately up there with the greatest fpses, but being someone who was brought up on adventure games and RPGs I do balk at a poor story, give me deus ex any day of the week.
I never said hl2 was a bad game, I quite enjoyed it and it has some quite amazing features (very good disability support), its definately up there with the greatest fpses, but being someone who was brought up on adventure games and RPGs I do balk at a poor story, give me deus ex any day of the week.
well at least you admit your fanboyism, now you need to learn to cure it
of course theres a reference point, how about the gigantic plot hole that is the end of hl1 and the beginning of hl2? It would be nice if they in any way attempted to explain it so the two games dont feel so laughably distant.
of course theres a reference point, how about the gigantic plot hole that is the end of hl1 and the beginning of hl2? It would be nice if they in any way attempted to explain it so the two games dont feel so laughably distant.
no, but its such a fucking stupid argument 'are you against companies making money', do you care more about playing a good game or would you prefer the company you get it from made more profit
episodic content is expansion packs plus, as little content as possible as often as possible, if halflife 2 wasnt so important to you, you wouldnt be so willing to accept whatever Valve do as inerrant
episodic content is expansion packs plus, as little content as possible as often as possible, if halflife 2 wasnt so important to you, you wouldnt be so willing to accept whatever Valve do as inerrant
But why must they make episodes?Stable cash flow, thats the ONLY viable reason for episodic content.
thread ressurrect is a bannable offence
in fact, 4 hours is TOO LONG, it should be more like actual TV episode length, 1 hour maximum gameplay per episode
infact why bother with all the nonsense 'playing' the game when you can just watch it instead
infact why bother with all the nonsense 'playing' the game when you can just watch it instead
that good idea nick why use long words ever, save time
Oh please stop the fanboy praise before I throw up, you'd pay $100 for Valve to administer sadomasocistic torture upon your body through your computer
The level of re-used content from hl2 and the various content that was cut from it, it does feel like it took less than 6 months to put together. The lost coast was also a 'cut' level. I don't believe all the 'free' content they've put out in the past 18 months would make more than a years dent in development time, unless they're working on something we dont know about. I can't think of many expansion packs in recent times that have been this short though!
minerva was a free mod made by one person, valve had their entire development team for 18 months and they only managed this, I dont see how you can even compare them
short term episodic content makes sense for independent developers like adam foster or other small teams, but for large established development teams like Valve it just feels lazy and rather milking of a certain cash cow
short term episodic content makes sense for independent developers like adam foster or other small teams, but for large established development teams like Valve it just feels lazy and rather milking of a certain cash cow
someone agrees with me.. im gonna have to go have a lie down
hl2 was 12 hours of droning monotonous repetition? why the fuck did you but this??
nickelplate is in the hizzaz with his flippity floppity floo
HOMOPHOBE
no, but my family have terribly red lips
please, mock my genetic misfortune, you racist
please, mock my genetic misfortune, you racist
a majority christian nation spends a week celebrating a pagan festival and we care about swearing? I swear because fuck, I do.
Alyx dies
Gman is an alien
EIGHTEEN MONTHS
Gman is an alien
EIGHTEEN MONTHS
I wonder why he hosted it on h&k's official site
anglo-saxon? sheisse!
I prefer madcows, nice job madcow
only horses swear, humans perspire
something like that
something like that
I fluffing swear all the flipping time to get my freaking point across you silly fruit
we brits swear quite a bit, americans use the term 'liberal' as a derogatary, swearing makes baby jesus cry and I try to use the lords name in vain as much as I can
we brits swear quite a bit, americans use the term 'liberal' as a derogatary, swearing makes baby jesus cry and I try to use the lords name in vain as much as I can
bears are unstoppable killing machines
its back up, called the police bay for some reason
You cant choose to be jaundice, you're born that way. Stop persecuting me because I was born yellow. I'm off to my kidney problem pride paradade.
personally, I think pie rates are far too high, the conservatives have promised lower tax on round pastry shaped goods.
because you CANT DOUBT RELIGION, would you honestly accept as a christian that its possible that god may not exist, jesus may not have been his son and that you dont go to heaven if you are good. They are fundamental principles of your religion that cannot be doubted because they are 'the word of god', scientific doubt is on the basis that there is always more to find out, that may disprove current theories and hypotheses, in christianity you can hardly keep finding more evidence. A belief system is not anti-science but the two should be kept seperate.
too late etc
too late etc
I read the da vinci code and Jesus was actually a pretty evil guyThat may be true orpehus but its not that relevant to this discussion
my avatar should be taken as tongue in cheek obviously, im not rebelling against a fricking game, its a concept for the future of gaming I dont like and are posting reason as to why I dont agree with it
It has a creepy girl in it, its such a goddamn cliche argh!
Im wondering how much of the past 18 months was spent on ep1, I bet it only took them the best part of 6.
Im wondering how much of the past 18 months was spent on ep1, I bet it only took them the best part of 6.
I made a post about windows deliberately making xp easy to pirate, but this stupid site deleted it, damn thsi site
Im not touching fear with a bargepole after a friend with whom I share very similar interests advised me against it.
Would you be happy if halflife 3 with its brand spanking new amazing shiny engine was a pathetic 6 hours long? You've barely got into the game before you're booted back to the desktop.
jobabob, have you played it yet? Its very fun, and quite impressive in every meaning of the word impressive. Yes it is short, but dont forget its only 20 bucks. Its the same length as FEAR, and FEAR was 50 bucks! Its quite worth it.No and I dont doubt that in its short length it is crammed with great graphics, gameplay, scripted sequences, 'story', blah blah that make it an enjoyable experience. I'm still not spending 12 quid on a fun afternoon because the whole idea of episodic games makes me want to scream. If they released 3 episodes of this as a pack for 27 quid I'd probably buy it, because it would be a GAME.
Would you be happy if halflife 3 with its brand spanking new amazing shiny engine was a pathetic 6 hours long? You've barely got into the game before you're booted back to the desktop.
they said they might push for six, even SEVEN hours of gameplay this time, its a real breakthrough for gaming
There once was a guy named RimrookI was jaundice too
who turned out to be horribly mistook
the kindly young fellow
turned out looking yellow
for he peed in the bath that he took.
If piracy was 100% stopped I bet everyone would go out and buy stuff and the market would flourish and be happy.
Im against episodic content because it means short, unfulfilling games. Every game I've played thats been less than 10 hours has felt a waste of my time and money. At the moment I want a new game to play after wasting half my life with Oblivion (A SINGLE GAME), I might as well rent a couple of films as I'll get as much as the 4-6 hours of halflife 2. It could have the flashiest most brilliant scripted sequences ever in it, but its still fucking short!
You're all fanboys and I hate you, mmeehhhhhhhmmnnnnn.
You're all fanboys and I hate you, mmeehhhhhhhmmnnnnn.
hl2 cost me 27 quid, this costs 12 quid (omg 3 quids differences), just because you bought the supergold pack off steam dont claim its actually worth what you get
God damn it I thought it would be longer.
Yeah, this game is a bit short but Im amazed
I just wanted it to be longer, A few nights ago I said I wouldn't buy the next 2 if this was crap But now I'm going to buy the next 2 for sure.Thank you Valves target audience, you dont even care that you get a third of a game for half of the price. Thanks for the plot spoiler post, I wont need to buy it now.
also
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7836/awsomeness6ia.jpg
thats exactly the same as when you come out onto the rooftops at the start, being chased by the combine